EPTShooting of Trayvon Martin - Page 198
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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xDaunt
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On June 29 2013 06:09 SKC wrote: Well, in theory every objection is "crap that is hurting their case". The same way the defense objected to the full medical report being released. Hiding information is the job of both sides and the objecting would be far less important if it didn't harm their case. It looks bad when everyone ends up knowing the information they are trying to hide. Well the defense didn't want the full records released because the prosecution could have used it to play down the injuries or attack Zimmerman in some way. Much like they did by getting the doctor to say she prescribed the same exact thing for constipation, which people normally wouldn't associate with a traumatic injury. | ||
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
edit: medical expert also saying injuries are consistent with zimmerman's story. woh. | ||
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Masq
Canada1792 Posts
On June 29 2013 06:12 xDaunt wrote: If I am the defense right now, I'm locked and loaded to present all of the new literature and research on traumatic brain injuries and permanent cognitive impairment. whats the relevance of this in relation to the charge of murder? | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On June 29 2013 06:25 Masq wrote: whats the relevance of this in relation to the charge of murder? reasonable fear of great bodily harm/death. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On June 29 2013 06:24 dAPhREAk wrote: i didnt know about the sacroilliac injury (lower back). that is consistent with zimmerman falling on his back. an injury not likely to be sustained if he was the attacker (on top) during the assault, that's a pretty 'nice' injury for his defense. | ||
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heliusx
United States2306 Posts
On June 29 2013 06:20 Kaitlin wrote: I just had to get something to eat and so I tried to watch HLN as opposed to the internet stream. Miraculously that they are now taking commercials and not pausing the testimony, but this only occurring during defense cross-examination. In other words, viewers get 100% content of prosecution direct witness testimony and commercials during defense cross-examination without pausing the playback. That's not true. They haven't paused either side today. | ||
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
On June 29 2013 06:20 Kaitlin wrote: I just had to get something to eat and so I tried to watch HLN as opposed to the internet stream. Miraculously that they are now taking commercials and not pausing the testimony, but this only occurring during defense cross-examination. In other words, viewers get 100% content of prosecution direct witness testimony and commercials during defense cross-examination without pausing the playback. Were you expecting the viewers to have a fair viewing of the case? I'm going to be honest here, after all the facebook backlash, the showing of trayvonn when he was a small child, and not the thug-I'll-fuck-you-up-if-you-come-within-5-feet-of-me-bro older pictures of him, the portrayal of Zimmerman as a racist when it was unsubstantiated by any evidence, and even more egregiously the smearing of Zimmerman as a person all point to the fact that the "news" is not out to produce a canny or relevant portrayal of this trial. HLN especially, I find, seems to only want to get a rise out of their audience; rarely do they present facts that are anywhere near pristine, most of what is said has been doctored up to force public opinion in one way or another depending on the audiences taste. Outside of this, and more on topic, I keep missing the trial -_-. I need to see this. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On June 29 2013 06:25 Masq wrote: whats the relevance of this in relation to the charge of murder? Proving that the kind of injuries he suffered could have caused brain injuries means he was in fact under threat of great bodily harm, and self-defense would be possible. | ||
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Scootaloo
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On June 29 2013 06:20 Kaitlin wrote: I just had to get something to eat and so I tried to watch HLN as opposed to the internet stream. Miraculously that they are now taking commercials and not pausing the testimony, but this only occurring during defense cross-examination. In other words, viewers get 100% content of prosecution direct witness testimony and commercials during defense cross-examination without pausing the playback. Get addblock, and disable it for sites you support. So the prosecutor, incompetent, instructed to kill his own case or just a poor man dealing with an impossible case? | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Oleo
Netherlands279 Posts
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heliusx
United States2306 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
"you are not saying its severe trauma" "i wouldnt necessarily say that it is not" (paraphrasing) never ask a question you dont know the answer to already. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On June 29 2013 06:36 Oleo wrote: So they are trying to show he had some sort of heavy injury, yet he seems to only have some minor swelling and small lacerations, I am confused. Does he even have scars from these wounds? Did he need stitches? I feel like Ive personally have had worse head wounds on multiple occasions. I dont see the relation between these wounds and brain trauma. He didn't need stitches, but you don't need more than what he suffered to have internal wounds. | ||
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Tewks44
United States2032 Posts
On June 29 2013 06:36 Oleo wrote: So they are trying to show he had some sort of heavy injury, yet he seems to only have some minor swelling and small lacerations, I am confused. Does he even have scars from these wounds? Did he need stitches? I feel like Ive personally have had worse head wounds on multiple occasions. I dont see the relation between these wounds and brain trauma. They don't need to show he had a serious head injury, only that it was reasonable for him to fear he would get a serious head injury. Then they point out how awful a serious head injury is, and why fearing a serious head injury is justifiable grounds to shoot Trayvon. EDIT: I'm not a lawyer, but this is the impression I'm getting. Please correct me if I'm wrong. | ||
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