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This is a sensitive and complex issue, please do not make comments without first reading the facts, which are cataloged in the OP.

If you make an uninformed post, or one that isn't relevant to the discussion, you will be moderated. If in doubt, don't post.
Imbajoe
Profile Joined September 2010
United States857 Posts
June 28 2013 18:33 GMT
#3861
On June 29 2013 03:31 AllHailTheDead wrote:
idk this witness just makes me cringe


she seems fine to me.
some of the questions seem awkward, though i've never watched a trial before so maybe this is normal
i wear a kitten scarf
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
June 28 2013 18:34 GMT
#3862
Can you describe the sound of a prosecution's case going down the drain ?

Yes, it's the sound of a prosecution witness testifying.
AllHailTheDead
Profile Joined July 2011
United States418 Posts
June 28 2013 18:35 GMT
#3863
On June 29 2013 03:33 Imbajoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 03:31 AllHailTheDead wrote:
idk this witness just makes me cringe


she seems fine to me.
some of the questions seem awkward, though i've never watched a trial before so maybe this is normal



well considering she is an EMT and could barely tell how these injuries could happen and what are the possibilities of serious injuries from this


Attorney is doing a good job with the questions it just doesn't seem she is too bright
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
June 28 2013 18:39 GMT
#3864
On June 29 2013 03:35 AllHailTheDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 03:33 Imbajoe wrote:
On June 29 2013 03:31 AllHailTheDead wrote:
idk this witness just makes me cringe


she seems fine to me.
some of the questions seem awkward, though i've never watched a trial before so maybe this is normal



well considering she is an EMT and could barely tell how these injuries could happen and what are the possibilities of serious injuries from this


Attorney is doing a good job with the questions it just doesn't seem she is too bright

They are asking stupid questions that are not part of her main job description. You can identify a bloody nose and treat it without thinking about all the possible scenarios of how it might have happened.
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 18:40:02
June 28 2013 18:39 GMT
#3865
On June 29 2013 03:35 AllHailTheDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 03:33 Imbajoe wrote:
On June 29 2013 03:31 AllHailTheDead wrote:
idk this witness just makes me cringe


she seems fine to me.
some of the questions seem awkward, though i've never watched a trial before so maybe this is normal



well considering she is an EMT and could barely tell how these injuries could happen and what are the possibilities of serious injuries from this


Attorney is doing a good job with the questions it just doesn't seem she is too bright

I think she is just being careful with her answers. Understandable with what the defense is trying to get her to say. She is also probably really nervous.
dude bro.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
June 28 2013 18:42 GMT
#3866
I'd just like to point out the prosecutor just asked if the EMT had asked Zimmerman if he had lost consciousness at any time. This wouldn't be a question asked of someone who slipped and twisted their ankle, for example, thus the prosecution just associated Zimmerman's injuries with the possibilities of losing consciousness. Possible imminent loss of consciousness is a SIGNIFICANT reason to justify Zimmerman shooting Trayvon. Smooth move, Mr. Prosecutor. That was on redirect - way to bolster the defense's case instead of your own witness.
LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 18:48:21
June 28 2013 18:48 GMT
#3867
On June 29 2013 01:42 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 01:23 LaughingTulkas wrote:
On June 29 2013 01:19 PCloadletter wrote:
Jonathan Good, thanks, got it.


Legal insurrections has a defense attorney following the case and blogging, I've found it really insightful. Here's his take on teh testimony:

Here

added to op. thanks.

if anyone else has stuff like this, please let me know and i will add it to op. lots of people cant watch the live stream. thanks.


DaPhreak,

I'm sure most people could figure it out on their own, but that link was only to the latest post on the topic, the full trial coverage archive can be found here:

Zimmerman Trial Archive

It has video and analysis from a defense attorney on all the proceedings.
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 18:52:14
June 28 2013 18:49 GMT
#3868
On June 29 2013 03:48 LaughingTulkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 01:42 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 29 2013 01:23 LaughingTulkas wrote:
On June 29 2013 01:19 PCloadletter wrote:
Jonathan Good, thanks, got it.


Legal insurrections has a defense attorney following the case and blogging, I've found it really insightful. Here's his take on teh testimony:

Here

added to op. thanks.

if anyone else has stuff like this, please let me know and i will add it to op. lots of people cant watch the live stream. thanks.


DaPhreak,

I'm sure most people could figure it out on their own, but that link was only to the latest post on the topic, the full trial coverage archive can be found here:

Zimmerman Trial Archive

It has video and analysis from a defense attorney on all the proceedings.

updated.

wtsp live stream go down for anyone else?

edit: back up.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
June 28 2013 18:58 GMT
#3869
Back of his jacket wetter than the front. Another prosecution witness testifying for the defense under prosecution questions. Amazing. Just said same about pants. Wetter in back than front.
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
June 28 2013 19:07 GMT
#3870
whos jacket? stream is down for me
.Wilsh.
Profile Joined January 2010
United States133 Posts
June 28 2013 19:09 GMT
#3871
On June 29 2013 03:58 Kaitlin wrote:
Back of his jacket wetter than the front. Another prosecution witness testifying for the defense under prosecution questions. Amazing. Just said same about pants. Wetter in back than front.


The State's case is looking worse and worse.

If Zimmerman is acquitted, I want to see Al Sharpton's reaction.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 28 2013 19:09 GMT
#3872
On June 29 2013 04:07 Masq wrote:
whos jacket? stream is down for me

zimmerman's.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 19:11:14
June 28 2013 19:10 GMT
#3873
On June 29 2013 04:09 .Wilsh. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 03:58 Kaitlin wrote:
Back of his jacket wetter than the front. Another prosecution witness testifying for the defense under prosecution questions. Amazing. Just said same about pants. Wetter in back than front.


The State's case is looking worse and worse.

If Zimmerman is acquitted, I want to see Al Sharpton's reaction.

he will say that justice wasnt achieved and the judicial system is biased against blacks. its not the first time sharpton has been a fuck up but wont admit it.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/rev-al-sharpton-won-apologize-handling-tawana-brawley-case-article-1.141998
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
June 28 2013 19:12 GMT
#3874
On June 29 2013 04:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 04:07 Masq wrote:
whos jacket? stream is down for me

zimmerman's.


I've obviously missed the reference for this, but wouldn't that direction of rainfall indicate that he was ontop?
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 28 2013 19:13 GMT
#3875
On June 29 2013 04:12 Masq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 04:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 29 2013 04:07 Masq wrote:
whos jacket? stream is down for me

zimmerman's.


I've obviously missed the reference for this, but wouldn't that direction of rainfall indicate that he was ontop?

grass is wet.
dotHead
Profile Joined October 2010
United States233 Posts
June 28 2013 19:14 GMT
#3876
I have been hearing from a lot of people that Mainstream media, and most Large news outlets are giving very biased reports of the trial. That they are showing Zimmerman in a very negative way, and still only showing very young (10-12) year old photos. Has anyone else noticed this? I don't watch tv, especially the news. A lot of people are saying that they are not reporting the truth so when Zimmerman is found not guilty, it will get a bigger response.
Aint got time to bleed
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
June 28 2013 19:15 GMT
#3877
On June 29 2013 04:12 Masq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 04:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 29 2013 04:07 Masq wrote:
whos jacket? stream is down for me

zimmerman's.


I've obviously missed the reference for this, but wouldn't that direction of rainfall indicate that he was ontop?

Next time it's raining, take a shirt and stand on all fours with your back to the sky for a couple minutes. Take that shirt off then put on another one and lay on the ground. I guarantee you the one where you were on the ground will be 10x wetter than the one that was rained on.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 19:17:54
June 28 2013 19:16 GMT
#3878
What's really bad is shows like Nancy Grace and these other assholes that get on tv to discuss the case are only showing excerpts of testimony describing for example "I saw Zimmerman on top", then describing that testimony, Nancy Grace paraphrases that the witness saw Zimmerman on top during the fight. That's not the testimony at all. The testimony was that after the gun shot, the witness went to look, and by the time they looked out, they saw Zimmerman on top. Nancy Grace doesn't play that part though, and concludes that the "theory" the Trayvon was on top was completely defeated by that testimony. Then they get these assholes to come in and talk about how credible Rachel was and all the damning testimony she gave defeating the defense. The mis-reporting by the media is absolutely reprehensible.

edit: dotHead, absolutely YES !!! I didn't read your post before posting the above.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 19:20:06
June 28 2013 19:19 GMT
#3879
On June 29 2013 04:15 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 04:12 Masq wrote:
On June 29 2013 04:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 29 2013 04:07 Masq wrote:
whos jacket? stream is down for me

zimmerman's.


I've obviously missed the reference for this, but wouldn't that direction of rainfall indicate that he was ontop?

Next time it's raining, take a shirt and stand on all fours with your back to the sky for a couple minutes. Take that shirt off then put on another one and lay on the ground. I guarantee you the one where you were on the ground will be 10x wetter than the one that was rained on.


Laying in wet grass has the effect of your clothes being pushed into the wet grass, thus acting like a sponge in picking up moisture.

edit: Not to mention, Zimmerman's coat looks somewhat water resistant, therefore mitigating the effect of falling rain, but not sponge forced into being absorbed by his body weight.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
June 28 2013 19:20 GMT
#3880
On June 29 2013 04:16 Kaitlin wrote:
What's really bad is shows like Nancy Grace and these other assholes that get on tv to discuss the case are only showing excerpts of testimony describing for example "I saw Zimmerman on top", then describing that testimony, Nancy Grace paraphrases that the witness saw Zimmerman on top during the fight. That's not the testimony at all. The testimony was that after the gun shot, the witness went to look, and by the time they looked out, they saw Zimmerman on top. Nancy Grace doesn't play that part though, and concludes that the "theory" the Trayvon was on top was completely defeated by that testimony. Then they get these assholes to come in and talk about how credible Rachel was and all the damning testimony she gave defeating the defense. The mis-reporting by the media is absolutely reprehensible.

edit: dotHead, absolutely YES !!! I didn't read your post before posting the above.

Well, yeah... they want everyone to be shocked and watching (their station) when he is acquitted and released. If they report actual facts, people would just say "yeah nbd, the prosecution sucked and it was pretty clear cut that Zimmerman was innocent, or at least defending himself" no one would give a fuck.
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