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This is a sensitive and complex issue, please do not make comments without first reading the facts, which are cataloged in the OP.

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Yorke
Profile Joined November 2010
England881 Posts
June 25 2013 21:09 GMT
#2601
Summary so far:

Today is the first time this witness entered into testimony she perceived a left to right movement despite the many depositions.
Seemingly unaware of not offering the aforementioned statement up in evidence.
'Liked' a facebook page entitled "prosecute the killer of our son Trayvon Martin".

Defense completely shut this witness down.
@YorkeSC - RIP MIT Police Officer Sean Collier, BW fan
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 25 2013 21:10 GMT
#2602
On June 26 2013 06:09 Yorke wrote:
Summary so far:

Today is the first time this witness entered into testimony she perceived a left to right movement despite the many depositions.
Seemingly unaware of not offering the aforementioned statement up in evidence.
'Liked' a facebook page entitled "prosecute the killer of our son Trayvon Martin".

Defense completely shut this witness down.

honestly, she didnt have much to say in the first place. she didnt actually see anything.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 25 2013 21:10 GMT
#2603
On June 26 2013 06:09 Yorke wrote:
Summary so far:

Today is the first time this witness entered into testimony she perceived a left to right movement despite the many depositions.
Seemingly unaware of not offering the aforementioned statement up in evidence.
'Liked' a facebook page entitled "prosecute the killer of our son Trayvon Martin".

Defense completely shut this witness down.

good summary for an hour or more of testimony XD
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
bugser
Profile Joined June 2013
61 Posts
June 25 2013 21:13 GMT
#2604
I feel like I am watching someone being fed to the lions in the Colosseum.

I almost feel sorry for her but really she shouldn't have tried to embellish her testimony.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 25 2013 21:14 GMT
#2605
time for prosecutor to get all bombastic

"HEY I DONT WANT TO BE A WITNESS"
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18846 Posts
June 25 2013 21:15 GMT
#2606
I must say, that sweatshirt display was some fancy shit.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 21:16:24
June 25 2013 21:16 GMT
#2607
On June 26 2013 06:13 bugser wrote:
I feel like I am watching someone being fed to the lions in the Colosseum.

I almost feel sorry for her but really she shouldn't have tried to embellish her testimony.

tell the truth and it doesn't matter what side asks you questions. Interesting that she wasn't asked about direction, might cover that direction stuff and now talking about arm flailing.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Yorke
Profile Joined November 2010
England881 Posts
June 25 2013 21:16 GMT
#2608
On June 26 2013 06:13 bugser wrote:
I feel like I am watching someone being fed to the lions in the Colosseum.

I almost feel sorry for her but really she shouldn't have tried to embellish her testimony.

Yeah this is gory stuff.
@YorkeSC - RIP MIT Police Officer Sean Collier, BW fan
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
June 25 2013 21:19 GMT
#2609
On June 26 2013 06:09 Yorke wrote:
Summary so far:

Today is the first time this witness entered into testimony she perceived a left to right movement despite the many depositions.
Seemingly unaware of not offering the aforementioned statement up in evidence.
'Liked' a facebook page entitled "prosecute the killer of our son Trayvon Martin".

Defense completely shut this witness down.


Isn't the page she liked just called "justice for Trayvon Martin"?
And if no one asked her the direction I don't really see how the fact that she didn't mention it is conclusive.

On June 26 2013 06:10 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 06:09 Yorke wrote:
Summary so far:

Today is the first time this witness entered into testimony she perceived a left to right movement despite the many depositions.
Seemingly unaware of not offering the aforementioned statement up in evidence.
'Liked' a facebook page entitled "prosecute the killer of our son Trayvon Martin".

Defense completely shut this witness down.

honestly, she didnt have much to say in the first place. she didnt actually see anything.


She just gave an approximate of the time the altercation took, around 15 seconds from "standing position arms flailing" to "dead body lying alone" which is pretty interesting.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
June 25 2013 21:19 GMT
#2610
I'm a little puzzled with the prosecution here. They are making the point that she never mentioned direction because they never bothered to ask. Yet, it's such an important point that they are trying to drive it home as credible. If it's so fucking important, why was it never asked or answered until her testimony today ? Certainly all these months of insisting that George Zimmerman profiled, stalked, and killed this unarmed teenager does not hinge on something they didn't know about until just today ...
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
June 25 2013 21:20 GMT
#2611
On June 26 2013 06:19 Diavlo wrote:
She just gave an approximate of the time the altercation took, around 15 seconds from "standing position arms flailing" to "dead body lying alone" which is pretty interesting.


I was surprised by her testimony that it took her 15 seconds to get from her kitchen to the sliding glass door in the adjacent room. Seems to me, it would take no more than 5 seconds ...
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 25 2013 21:21 GMT
#2612
On June 26 2013 06:19 Kaitlin wrote:
I'm a little puzzled with the prosecution here. They are making the point that she never mentioned direction because they never bothered to ask. Yet, it's such an important point that they are trying to drive it home as credible. If it's so fucking important, why was it never asked or answered until her testimony today ? Certainly all these months of insisting that George Zimmerman profiled, stalked, and killed this unarmed teenager does not hinge on something they didn't know about until just today ...

i find it very hard to believe that they didn't know what her answer would be before she asked the question. good lawyers dont ask open ended questions at trial.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 25 2013 21:23 GMT
#2613
she just got fucked.....
Knighthawkbro
Profile Joined August 2011
United States183 Posts
June 25 2013 21:26 GMT
#2614
On June 26 2013 06:23 dAPhREAk wrote:
she just got fucked.....


Im sorry I don't understand

/sarcasm
"I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately." -George Carlin
Yorke
Profile Joined November 2010
England881 Posts
June 25 2013 21:27 GMT
#2615
On June 26 2013 06:19 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 06:09 Yorke wrote:
Summary so far:

Today is the first time this witness entered into testimony she perceived a left to right movement despite the many depositions.
Seemingly unaware of not offering the aforementioned statement up in evidence.
'Liked' a facebook page entitled "prosecute the killer of our son Trayvon Martin".

Defense completely shut this witness down.


Isn't the page she liked just called "justice for Trayvon Martin"?
And if no one asked her the direction I don't really see how the fact that she didn't mention it is conclusive.

Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 06:10 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 26 2013 06:09 Yorke wrote:
Summary so far:

Today is the first time this witness entered into testimony she perceived a left to right movement despite the many depositions.
Seemingly unaware of not offering the aforementioned statement up in evidence.
'Liked' a facebook page entitled "prosecute the killer of our son Trayvon Martin".

Defense completely shut this witness down.

honestly, she didnt have much to say in the first place. she didnt actually see anything.


She just gave an approximate of the time the altercation took, around 15 seconds from "standing position arms flailing" to "dead body lying alone" which is pretty interesting.

No, it wasn't, it was a change.org petition titled as I wrote.
@YorkeSC - RIP MIT Police Officer Sean Collier, BW fan
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 21:35:19
June 25 2013 21:28 GMT
#2616
On June 26 2013 06:20 Kaitlin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 06:19 Diavlo wrote:
She just gave an approximate of the time the altercation took, around 15 seconds from "standing position arms flailing" to "dead body lying alone" which is pretty interesting.


I was surprised by her testimony that it took her 15 seconds to get from her kitchen to the sliding glass door in the adjacent room. Seems to me, it would take no more than 5 seconds ...

Was thinking the same thing. Especially since she said it took her 15 seconds to get to the sliding glass door but also 15 seconds to get back to her oven, turn it off and return...

On June 26 2013 06:19 Kaitlin wrote:
I'm a little puzzled with the prosecution here. They are making the point that she never mentioned direction because they never bothered to ask. Yet, it's such an important point that they are trying to drive it home as credible. If it's so fucking important, why was it never asked or answered until her testimony today ? Certainly all these months of insisting that George Zimmerman profiled, stalked, and killed this unarmed teenager does not hinge on something they didn't know about until just today ...


Probably just want to counter the idea that she's unreliable as a witness rather than trying to make a point of the supposed pursuit.

On June 26 2013 06:27 Yorke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 06:19 Diavlo wrote:
On June 26 2013 06:09 Yorke wrote:
Summary so far:

Today is the first time this witness entered into testimony she perceived a left to right movement despite the many depositions.
Seemingly unaware of not offering the aforementioned statement up in evidence.
'Liked' a facebook page entitled "prosecute the killer of our son Trayvon Martin".

Defense completely shut this witness down.


Isn't the page she liked just called "justice for Trayvon Martin"?
And if no one asked her the direction I don't really see how the fact that she didn't mention it is conclusive.

On June 26 2013 06:10 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 26 2013 06:09 Yorke wrote:
Summary so far:

Today is the first time this witness entered into testimony she perceived a left to right movement despite the many depositions.
Seemingly unaware of not offering the aforementioned statement up in evidence.
'Liked' a facebook page entitled "prosecute the killer of our son Trayvon Martin".

Defense completely shut this witness down.

honestly, she didnt have much to say in the first place. she didnt actually see anything.


She just gave an approximate of the time the altercation took, around 15 seconds from "standing position arms flailing" to "dead body lying alone" which is pretty interesting.

No, it wasn't, it was a change.org petition titled as I wrote.

Yeah I saw that, twitter feed on wesh was just wrong on what she liked...

EDIT: so she admit to like this page: https://www.facebook.com/ProsecuteTheKillerOfOurSon17YearOldTrayvonMartin
but not signing the petition?
Or to like this page: https://www.facebook.com/JforTrayvonMartin
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 25 2013 21:28 GMT
#2617
On June 26 2013 06:23 dAPhREAk wrote:
she just got fucked.....

lol, well, she pretty much just said that it came to mind now than back them so I guess that's strong evidence against her? I do find it interesting that the prosecution got quick answers while the defense were getting the answer much slower, then again, totally different questions I guess
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 21:30:51
June 25 2013 21:29 GMT
#2618
On June 26 2013 06:28 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 06:20 Kaitlin wrote:
On June 26 2013 06:19 Diavlo wrote:
She just gave an approximate of the time the altercation took, around 15 seconds from "standing position arms flailing" to "dead body lying alone" which is pretty interesting.


I was surprised by her testimony that it took her 15 seconds to get from her kitchen to the sliding glass door in the adjacent room. Seems to me, it would take no more than 5 seconds ...

Was thinking the same thing. Especially since she said it took her 15 seconds to get to the sliding glass door but also 15 seconds to get back to her oven, turn it off and return...

Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 06:19 Kaitlin wrote:
I'm a little puzzled with the prosecution here. They are making the point that she never mentioned direction because they never bothered to ask. Yet, it's such an important point that they are trying to drive it home as credible. If it's so fucking important, why was it never asked or answered until her testimony today ? Certainly all these months of insisting that George Zimmerman profiled, stalked, and killed this unarmed teenager does not hinge on something they didn't know about until just today ...


Probably just want to counter the idea that she's unreliable as a witness rather than trying to make a point of the supposed pursuit.

Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 06:27 Yorke wrote:
On June 26 2013 06:19 Diavlo wrote:
On June 26 2013 06:09 Yorke wrote:
Summary so far:

Today is the first time this witness entered into testimony she perceived a left to right movement despite the many depositions.
Seemingly unaware of not offering the aforementioned statement up in evidence.
'Liked' a facebook page entitled "prosecute the killer of our son Trayvon Martin".

Defense completely shut this witness down.


Isn't the page she liked just called "justice for Trayvon Martin"?
And if no one asked her the direction I don't really see how the fact that she didn't mention it is conclusive.

On June 26 2013 06:10 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 26 2013 06:09 Yorke wrote:
Summary so far:

Today is the first time this witness entered into testimony she perceived a left to right movement despite the many depositions.
Seemingly unaware of not offering the aforementioned statement up in evidence.
'Liked' a facebook page entitled "prosecute the killer of our son Trayvon Martin".

Defense completely shut this witness down.

honestly, she didnt have much to say in the first place. she didnt actually see anything.


She just gave an approximate of the time the altercation took, around 15 seconds from "standing position arms flailing" to "dead body lying alone" which is pretty interesting.

No, it wasn't, it was a change.org petition titled as I wrote.

Yeah I saw that, twitter feed on wesh was just wrong on what she liked...

at least she was consistent with the 15 seconds back and forth.

ps petition was linked on here, it's in the OP I believe.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
bugser
Profile Joined June 2013
61 Posts
June 25 2013 21:37 GMT
#2619
On June 26 2013 06:29 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 06:28 Diavlo wrote:
On June 26 2013 06:20 Kaitlin wrote:
On June 26 2013 06:19 Diavlo wrote:
She just gave an approximate of the time the altercation took, around 15 seconds from "standing position arms flailing" to "dead body lying alone" which is pretty interesting.


I was surprised by her testimony that it took her 15 seconds to get from her kitchen to the sliding glass door in the adjacent room. Seems to me, it would take no more than 5 seconds ...

Was thinking the same thing. Especially since she said it took her 15 seconds to get to the sliding glass door but also 15 seconds to get back to her oven, turn it off and return...

On June 26 2013 06:19 Kaitlin wrote:
I'm a little puzzled with the prosecution here. They are making the point that she never mentioned direction because they never bothered to ask. Yet, it's such an important point that they are trying to drive it home as credible. If it's so fucking important, why was it never asked or answered until her testimony today ? Certainly all these months of insisting that George Zimmerman profiled, stalked, and killed this unarmed teenager does not hinge on something they didn't know about until just today ...


Probably just want to counter the idea that she's unreliable as a witness rather than trying to make a point of the supposed pursuit.

On June 26 2013 06:27 Yorke wrote:
On June 26 2013 06:19 Diavlo wrote:
On June 26 2013 06:09 Yorke wrote:
Summary so far:

Today is the first time this witness entered into testimony she perceived a left to right movement despite the many depositions.
Seemingly unaware of not offering the aforementioned statement up in evidence.
'Liked' a facebook page entitled "prosecute the killer of our son Trayvon Martin".

Defense completely shut this witness down.


Isn't the page she liked just called "justice for Trayvon Martin"?
And if no one asked her the direction I don't really see how the fact that she didn't mention it is conclusive.

On June 26 2013 06:10 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 26 2013 06:09 Yorke wrote:
Summary so far:

Today is the first time this witness entered into testimony she perceived a left to right movement despite the many depositions.
Seemingly unaware of not offering the aforementioned statement up in evidence.
'Liked' a facebook page entitled "prosecute the killer of our son Trayvon Martin".

Defense completely shut this witness down.

honestly, she didnt have much to say in the first place. she didnt actually see anything.


She just gave an approximate of the time the altercation took, around 15 seconds from "standing position arms flailing" to "dead body lying alone" which is pretty interesting.

No, it wasn't, it was a change.org petition titled as I wrote.

Yeah I saw that, twitter feed on wesh was just wrong on what she liked...

at least she was consistent with the 15 seconds back and forth.

ps petition was linked on here, it's in the OP I believe.

I guess that petition really got around.

The commentators on the stream mentioned that the facebook evidence wouldn't even have made it in if the prosecutor hadn't tried to rehabilitate the witness, which gave the defense time for that to surface and a fresh opportunity to bring it up.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 25 2013 21:47 GMT
#2620
On June 26 2013 06:37 bugser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 06:29 BigFan wrote:
On June 26 2013 06:28 Diavlo wrote:
On June 26 2013 06:20 Kaitlin wrote:
On June 26 2013 06:19 Diavlo wrote:
She just gave an approximate of the time the altercation took, around 15 seconds from "standing position arms flailing" to "dead body lying alone" which is pretty interesting.


I was surprised by her testimony that it took her 15 seconds to get from her kitchen to the sliding glass door in the adjacent room. Seems to me, it would take no more than 5 seconds ...

Was thinking the same thing. Especially since she said it took her 15 seconds to get to the sliding glass door but also 15 seconds to get back to her oven, turn it off and return...

On June 26 2013 06:19 Kaitlin wrote:
I'm a little puzzled with the prosecution here. They are making the point that she never mentioned direction because they never bothered to ask. Yet, it's such an important point that they are trying to drive it home as credible. If it's so fucking important, why was it never asked or answered until her testimony today ? Certainly all these months of insisting that George Zimmerman profiled, stalked, and killed this unarmed teenager does not hinge on something they didn't know about until just today ...


Probably just want to counter the idea that she's unreliable as a witness rather than trying to make a point of the supposed pursuit.

On June 26 2013 06:27 Yorke wrote:
On June 26 2013 06:19 Diavlo wrote:
On June 26 2013 06:09 Yorke wrote:
Summary so far:

Today is the first time this witness entered into testimony she perceived a left to right movement despite the many depositions.
Seemingly unaware of not offering the aforementioned statement up in evidence.
'Liked' a facebook page entitled "prosecute the killer of our son Trayvon Martin".

Defense completely shut this witness down.


Isn't the page she liked just called "justice for Trayvon Martin"?
And if no one asked her the direction I don't really see how the fact that she didn't mention it is conclusive.

On June 26 2013 06:10 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 26 2013 06:09 Yorke wrote:
Summary so far:

Today is the first time this witness entered into testimony she perceived a left to right movement despite the many depositions.
Seemingly unaware of not offering the aforementioned statement up in evidence.
'Liked' a facebook page entitled "prosecute the killer of our son Trayvon Martin".

Defense completely shut this witness down.

honestly, she didnt have much to say in the first place. she didnt actually see anything.


She just gave an approximate of the time the altercation took, around 15 seconds from "standing position arms flailing" to "dead body lying alone" which is pretty interesting.

No, it wasn't, it was a change.org petition titled as I wrote.

Yeah I saw that, twitter feed on wesh was just wrong on what she liked...

at least she was consistent with the 15 seconds back and forth.

ps petition was linked on here, it's in the OP I believe.

I guess that petition really got around.

The commentators on the stream mentioned that the facebook evidence wouldn't even have made it in if the prosecutor hadn't tried to rehabilitate the witness, which gave the defense time for that to surface and a fresh opportunity to bring it up.

ya, it did. I tried to sign it as well but it already reached 2M or something XD Well, either way, the defense made a lot of good points against her imo so I guess not
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
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