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badteeth
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands1416 Posts
April 09 2003 00:05 GMT
#21
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no quote for you! ehh, damn.
JaeIsGod
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands199 Posts
April 09 2003 01:35 GMT
#22
Book 1-3 are great , after that it goes downhill fast. 4 is still readable , 5 and 6 are a pain to go through.

Reason 1: Jordan has no idea how to write female characters. They are all dumbass whiners and annoy the shit out of me.Also he killed off the only cool female in the serie =[
Reason 2: Jordan is obsessed with cleavage and female cloths. half the pages in the book are filled with descriptions of cleave and such. VERY annoying.

This was not such a big deal in book 1-3 since there were less romances/female characters. However in book 5 70% of the pages is filled with female only stuff =p

Oh , one last thing. He keeps introducing new characters even in book 7-8 . Its impossible to keep up with everything new. Just read Lotr =]
Born)Slippy
Profile Joined October 2002
Norway1904 Posts
April 09 2003 02:57 GMT
#23
OMG Stephen King's Dark Tower is so frigging badass. I love it - it's not very good quality-wise, imo, but it's SO cool.
Pol
Profile Joined December 2002
Poland1187 Posts
April 09 2003 04:18 GMT
#24
cool:D
FridayLove
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1478 Posts
April 09 2003 07:36 GMT
#25
I got done reading Lotr 5 years ago =(.
I dont care if mondys blue...
Anselan
Profile Joined February 2003
United States103 Posts
April 09 2003 08:49 GMT
#26
JaelsGod, what's the problem with female cleavage? Sheesh...

Anyway, WoT isn't hard to follow. Yes, there are a lot of characters, but it's a complex series. It's supposed to be representative of an entire world, which is something few other fantasy writers accomplish.
OriginalLogic Team O-Logic
Liquid`Spy
Profile Joined October 2002
Netherlands1301 Posts
April 09 2003 08:57 GMT
#27
The only fantasy books I've read so far are
Lord of the Rings (Tolkien)
and Dark Elf Trilogy & Icewind Dale (by R.A. Salvatore)
I liked them very much and I'll read more fantasy in the future, so this is a nice thread to look for recommendations
Im a spy in the house of love
CeltiC.MoOn
Profile Joined January 2003
Germany160 Posts
April 09 2003 09:40 GMT
#28
i really enjoy the wheel of time series. i love the way magic is depicted in it and i like the main characters, though the last 2 or 3 books were quite disappointing. i'm now halfway through book 10 and literally nothing has happened so far :/.

i also like the sword of truth series from terry goodkind, though the farther the series is coming, the lesser it's really "fantasy" he writes about, in my opinion.
terry goodkind wrote what i consider the best 100 pages i've ever read in a book. this was early in the series when richard got captured and tortured by a mord sith. it was such an intensive reading experience, goodkind managed to draw the reader in an abyss of complete horror and pain as if he himself had lived through such things, awesome!

i guess i'll have a look at some of the other books recommended here, after all no movie can give you the feelings a good book can
Commander{+}
Profile Joined December 2002
United States2878 Posts
April 09 2003 11:10 GMT
#29
Manifesto I have always been a big fan or Stephen King, I love the book Differant Seasons, even though that is not considered one of the better ones, if u havn't read it, and u like really dark and crazy shit read Apt Pupil.

And I have gone on Stephen King websites in the past and I was shocked by the anticipation towards the 4th Dark Series book. I'm surprised they aren't more famous.

Unfourtenitly Stephen King is retiring, lets all take a moment of silence for him.
4 cheers for Ryan307
Commander{+}
Profile Joined December 2002
United States2878 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-04-09 12:02:07
April 09 2003 11:12 GMT
#30
And Liquid`Spy, I would recommend The Wheel of Time if you have a lot of time on your hands. They aren't exactly classic like LOTR, but they are a very fun read, and they definitly keep you reading (For the first few books anyway).
4 cheers for Ryan307
FridayLove
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1478 Posts
April 09 2003 11:33 GMT
#31
Moment of silence is broken by /me's Astmah Attack.
I dont care if mondys blue...
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-04-09 12:37:47
April 09 2003 12:36 GMT
#32
Rahvin i own all of Kings books =) I am an easy person to buy for a christmas. King apparently is retiring, but not for another couple years, and he has slated the deadlines for the next 3 dark tower books thank god.
Mani~
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Hades
Profile Joined January 2003
Canada927 Posts
April 09 2003 12:38 GMT
#33
Wheel of Time = best fantasy series

Except for the newest book. It is horrible There are WAY WAY too many characters involved now. Jordan has to write in Saddam Hussein so that he can kill half of the people in the book.
I just finished eating my vegetables, now where do I throw the wheelchairs?
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
April 09 2003 14:27 GMT
#34
WoT 1-4 = Good. 5-8 Boring. 9 got back to some of the good stuff at the end, but I hear book 10 is another 800 pages of nothing.

LotR = great series, and very deep in symbolism.

Song of Fire and Ice by George R.R. Martin is another great series.

The Dark Tower is great... but... book 5...? ever? I think Stephen King will be dead before he gets to book 6, at this rate.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
April 09 2003 18:56 GMT
#35
Hmmmmmmm

I am a huge fan of WoT. It is the best series i have read.

I liked the analogy of Terry Goodkind to a Hollywood Movie. Not to mention that Richard and Khalan are the 2 most annoying main characters ever recorded in literature.

If you like the art of short stories, i think you will like WoT. It is (unlike so many other fanatsy novels) not completely plot based! *GASP*! He has excellent use of symbolism, imagery, and all the components a writer strives for. not to mention that i've never seen better and more intimate character depth. His world is so well constructed; really amazing.

Alot of criticism is said about the latter books in the series. I find i disagree. The last books slow down a bit, but what is missing in written plot is what the reader should think about when the book is not in his hands. thats not for everybody, but i love it. Im on book 2 for the 2nd time, im re-reading through them.

To the person who noted that RJ cant write female characters - i would like you to give me an example of a writer that can. I think that Robert Jordan depicts the female character quite strongly. His characters truly define what it means to be a woman (at least from my male perspective).

Terry Goodkind's 1st book was great. It went downhill from there. Book 2 was really good. I despised book 3 (except when Khalan leads the gallorians(sp?) into battle. That was an awesome scene). Book 4 was a bit better than book 3, but not by much. Book 5 was a bit better than book 4. Book 6 was actyally good, i enjoyed it. Pillars of Creation was the worst novel i have ever read. Many oops.

Raymond E Feist is a fabulous writer. Short books but full of everything a reader wants. (imo at least).

Happiness only real when shared.
Commander{+}
Profile Joined December 2002
United States2878 Posts
April 09 2003 23:10 GMT
#36
Anyone who doesn't like the WOT later books, go back and re-read the first ones, they are so fun to read before Rand gets so corrupted by the one power, its funny to see how ignorant and close-minded they are.

And I am going to take back some of my earlier posts and agree with Teroru, the later books just slow down, they don't suck. I mean u all gotta admit, the part when Mat meets the gollem (sp?, sorry I havn't read that part in a long time and forgot how to spell it) was pretty fucking cool!
4 cheers for Ryan307
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
April 09 2003 23:42 GMT
#37
I've read that series so many times ~_~ It is true that the last few books haven't been as good as the initial ones, but they aren't "bad". They just focus more on manuvering into RJs vision of what has to happen before his "conclusion" can take place. The last book is the worst one in this category. You could probabl get by with reading nothing but the last paragraph or so. It's all manuvering. But, you can't really call it "bad" because it's merely building the story. We haven't reached the climax, so we really aren't in much of a position to judge. We can simply note that the climaxes have been few and far between as of late ~_~.

CelticFrost
Profile Joined April 2003
Belgium36 Posts
April 12 2003 04:46 GMT
#38
Everything from David Eddings is the best, period: The Belgariad series, The Malloreon series, The Prequels, The Elenenium...
Wheel of Time, Dune, Deathgate Cycle, Lord of the Rings, anything from H.P. Lovecraft (Call of Ctulhu anyone?), anything from Raymond Feist (Riftwar saga, Midkemia series...).

Yes, I'm a professional reader
The razor carressed my flesh and my arms turned red. I feel a vast desire. Years of pain are flowing down my arms. Sweet, red, warm stream you drink, make me released.
CelticFrost
Profile Joined April 2003
Belgium36 Posts
April 12 2003 04:51 GMT
#39
Oh yes, how could I forget? The Thomas Covenant - First Chronicles series of Stephen Donaldson are MUST READS!!!
The razor carressed my flesh and my arms turned red. I feel a vast desire. Years of pain are flowing down my arms. Sweet, red, warm stream you drink, make me released.
rK
Profile Joined September 2002
United States371 Posts
April 12 2003 05:36 GMT
#40
WoT series is great, but I'm getting to be part of the "end it now!" club :-(
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