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Metalreflux
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States165 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 21:55:59
November 17 2011 21:44 GMT
#1
For many of us, we're firmly aware of what it may be, it's simply when you play a song in reverse and sometimes there are hidden messages within the song, whether they're inentional or not.

The most infamous one is Stairway to Heaven by Led Zepplin



But I've been playing around with some song on my computer and I find some of them are pretty interesting and eve beautiful when played backwards, for Example, the song Wolf at the Door by Radiohead.







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I noticed the words in the backmasked version, are mostly in piglatin, when i spelled them out, at 2:18, you can hear the words "I see him, I see him, I see him" very clearly and then it goes into a mix of pig latin and english, bravo Tom Yorke.


i uploaded a reverse version onto youtube and this makes me ask, what's your opinion on backmasking? Some find it creepy, other amazing. I'm not going to go into a huge explanation behind it such as huge hits, etc. I simply don't have the time in a day to present such a thing, but please I encourage you to look into the subject yourselves and who knows? you might find your favorite version of a song!
Bairemuth
Profile Joined June 2010
United States404 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 21:51:11
November 17 2011 21:49 GMT
#2
Well Radiohead's Nude makes for an interesting listen backwards considering the vocal accompaniment and main strings section is actually a musical palindrome.



couches
Profile Joined November 2010
618 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 21:51:02
November 17 2011 21:49 GMT
#3
Geogaddi by Boards of Canada backwards is rather cool. I made a copy of the album with each track in reverse and the track listing is reversed.

At some points you can tell that they made beats and sounds backwards and then reversed them for the normal recording. Backwards sounding beats are very distinct sounding.


I've experimented with it in the studio with my own band. It's pretty funny to take a pitch shifter and space echo to vocals and then reverse it.
Egyptian_Head
Profile Joined October 2010
South Africa508 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 21:56:25
November 17 2011 21:49 GMT
#4
The hole song playing backwards thing is mostly an auditory illusion. If you play stairway to heaven backwards with no sub titles people pick up a few words notably 666 and Satan mispronounced. But then you play it with the subtitles and everyone hears it clearly. It is people telling people what to hear for the most part.

This has a similar effect
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explaination
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 21:57:02
November 17 2011 21:52 GMT
#5
Theere is a great one, not of a song but of Obama making a speech where when its said backwords says "heil Satan". Wich is creepy. I could link it but I think its bollocks so I wont.

bah, ill link it!
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No_Roo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States905 Posts
November 17 2011 21:53 GMT
#6
Well the music might be reversible, but time still is not.
(US) NoRoo.fighting
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 21:59:43
November 17 2011 21:59 GMT
#7
yeah it's mostly just your mind making you hear certain words from whatever your vocabulary knowledge is. while there is a way to make words when played backwards i'm sure, it's almost all completely your mind making up the words since it doesn't know what you are listening to is just nonsense, so it pieces certain parts of sound together to make it sound like something you've heard of before.

kind of like this
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
driftme
Profile Joined June 2010
United States360 Posts
November 17 2011 22:10 GMT
#8
the start of linkin park's song Somewhere I Belong has an interesting guitar melody that sounds totally different... they played the melody, then reversed it, then reordered the notes so it was in the correct order.. so what you get is the melody with the sounds being played in reverse =]
SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
November 17 2011 23:08 GMT
#9
On November 18 2011 06:59 Silidons wrote:
yeah it's mostly just your mind making you hear certain words from whatever your vocabulary knowledge is. while there is a way to make words when played backwards i'm sure, it's almost all completely your mind making up the words since it doesn't know what you are listening to is just nonsense, so it pieces certain parts of sound together to make it sound like something you've heard of before.

kind of like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-lN8vWm3m0



Every time I see some kind of optical illusion or whatever illusion and hear the science behind why it happens it makes me wonder how the hell people can believe in intelligent design.
A man is what he thinks about all day long.
sorrowptoss
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1431 Posts
November 17 2011 23:29 GMT
#10
This blew my mind. Like seriously. I've never ever thought of such an interpretation to popular songs like some of these. In my opinion, most likely the artist(s) never thought of sending a message when their song would be played backwards, what a waste of time to plan, yet it's so fascinating how it still happens.
I think this is just a question of interpretation, the lyrics of certain of these songs backwards usually are largely invented but based on random sounds; our mind can play tricks on us if we are possessed by a "cool" idea. Still, I'm not dissing this, it's pretty interesting.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12824 Posts
November 17 2011 23:29 GMT
#11
On November 18 2011 08:08 SpoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 06:59 Silidons wrote:
yeah it's mostly just your mind making you hear certain words from whatever your vocabulary knowledge is. while there is a way to make words when played backwards i'm sure, it's almost all completely your mind making up the words since it doesn't know what you are listening to is just nonsense, so it pieces certain parts of sound together to make it sound like something you've heard of before.

kind of like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-lN8vWm3m0



Every time I see some kind of optical illusion or whatever illusion and hear the science behind why it happens it makes me wonder how the hell people can believe in intelligent design.

? I can't see how those two are related at all
intelligent design is philosophical debate topic while science is all about facts, hypothesis etc
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Soot
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany36 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 23:43:39
November 17 2011 23:34 GMT
#12
Fitting TED talk, also has the Stairway to Heaven example in it:

Michael Shermer on strange beliefs

Oh, here is to my sweet Satan...
D3EU: Sooty#1849
Remb
Profile Joined August 2011
United States190 Posts
November 17 2011 23:38 GMT
#13
If you look in the sky, you can see objects in the clouds.
A virtuous act is performed habitually, and not once from incentive alone.
llKenZyll
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States853 Posts
November 17 2011 23:56 GMT
#14
Oh god, I remember there was something in the SpongeBob theme when it was backtracked.

I tried finding it but fuck that, there were screamers man. I need new pants.
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/nd6nd/tang_in_his_natural_habitat/
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
November 17 2011 23:59 GMT
#15
These are always so silly...

Does it really seem so strange to think that arranging a limited number of alphabetical letters in a particular way could "sound" like other words when played in reverse? Not really.

Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
November 18 2011 00:01 GMT
#16
Stairway to Heaven doesn't really have backwards speak in it, I'm pretty sure.
SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 00:27:25
November 18 2011 00:26 GMT
#17
On November 18 2011 08:29 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 08:08 SpoR wrote:
On November 18 2011 06:59 Silidons wrote:
yeah it's mostly just your mind making you hear certain words from whatever your vocabulary knowledge is. while there is a way to make words when played backwards i'm sure, it's almost all completely your mind making up the words since it doesn't know what you are listening to is just nonsense, so it pieces certain parts of sound together to make it sound like something you've heard of before.

kind of like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-lN8vWm3m0



Every time I see some kind of optical illusion or whatever illusion and hear the science behind why it happens it makes me wonder how the hell people can believe in intelligent design.

? I can't see how those two are related at all
intelligent design is philosophical debate topic while science is all about facts, hypothesis etc



well you can watch the TED talk below your post and you can also watch this http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-102519600994873365 or the shorter version
A man is what he thinks about all day long.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 18 2011 00:37 GMT
#18
On November 18 2011 06:49 Bairemuth wrote:
Well Radiohead's Nude makes for an interesting listen backwards considering the vocal accompaniment and main strings section is actually a musical palindrome.


I love the song but I never knew this before. Blew my mind.
Soot
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany36 Posts
November 18 2011 00:52 GMT
#19
On November 18 2011 09:26 SpoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 08:29 ETisME wrote:
On November 18 2011 08:08 SpoR wrote:
On November 18 2011 06:59 Silidons wrote:
yeah it's mostly just your mind making you hear certain words from whatever your vocabulary knowledge is. while there is a way to make words when played backwards i'm sure, it's almost all completely your mind making up the words since it doesn't know what you are listening to is just nonsense, so it pieces certain parts of sound together to make it sound like something you've heard of before.

kind of like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-lN8vWm3m0



Every time I see some kind of optical illusion or whatever illusion and hear the science behind why it happens it makes me wonder how the hell people can believe in intelligent design.

? I can't see how those two are related at all
intelligent design is philosophical debate topic while science is all about facts, hypothesis etc



well you can watch the TED talk below your post and you can also watch this http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-102519600994873365 or the shorter version http://youtu.be/Weu7Rh6dYrM


Thanks, nice view. Great quote about Newton: "That guy invented calculus just on a dare practically."
D3EU: Sooty#1849
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
November 18 2011 01:11 GMT
#20
On November 18 2011 08:08 SpoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 06:59 Silidons wrote:
yeah it's mostly just your mind making you hear certain words from whatever your vocabulary knowledge is. while there is a way to make words when played backwards i'm sure, it's almost all completely your mind making up the words since it doesn't know what you are listening to is just nonsense, so it pieces certain parts of sound together to make it sound like something you've heard of before.

kind of like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-lN8vWm3m0



Every time I see some kind of optical illusion or whatever illusion and hear the science behind why it happens it makes me wonder how the hell people can believe in intelligent design.


Lol SpoR don't be a jerk. Unless you are trying to start a flame war?

Actually Silidons does bring up a good point with this. Have you ever seen those ghost hunter shows where they use and audio recorder and claim that some of the noises they are picking up are ghost voices (EVPs)? It's random white noise that doesn't sound like anything until after the ghost "expert" tells you what the voice is saying. Then you can hear it clear as day. I think the same concepts apply to backmasking.

Remember Ringo's famous line, "I buried Paul?". Everyone could hear it in the song and it started an elaborate conspiracy that Paul McCartney was actually dead and his death had been covered up. Until some years later when Ringo admitted he actually was just saying "cranberry sauce" slowly. Listed to the song again after that and you hear "cranberry sauce" clearly.

Our brains are weird things.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 07:31:10
November 18 2011 07:21 GMT
#21
On November 18 2011 10:11 TheToast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 08:08 SpoR wrote:
On November 18 2011 06:59 Silidons wrote:
yeah it's mostly just your mind making you hear certain words from whatever your vocabulary knowledge is. while there is a way to make words when played backwards i'm sure, it's almost all completely your mind making up the words since it doesn't know what you are listening to is just nonsense, so it pieces certain parts of sound together to make it sound like something you've heard of before.

kind of like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-lN8vWm3m0



Every time I see some kind of optical illusion or whatever illusion and hear the science behind why it happens it makes me wonder how the hell people can believe in intelligent design.


Lol SpoR don't be a jerk. Unless you are trying to start a flame war?

Actually Silidons does bring up a good point with this. Have you ever seen those ghost hunter shows where they use and audio recorder and claim that some of the noises they are picking up are ghost voices (EVPs)? It's random white noise that doesn't sound like anything until after the ghost "expert" tells you what the voice is saying. Then you can hear it clear as day. I think the same concepts apply to backmasking.

Remember Ringo's famous line, "I buried Paul?". Everyone could hear it in the song and it started an elaborate conspiracy that Paul McCartney was actually dead and his death had been covered up. Until some years later when Ringo admitted he actually was just saying "cranberry sauce" slowly. Listed to the song again after that and you hear "cranberry sauce" clearly.

Our brains are weird things.


No, I'm just making an observation. If we are so perfectly designed why do we have so many glaring flaws in just our senses alone.


Yea, exactly. Thats the first thing I thought of when they were talking about the mcgurk effect. I just didn't remember what EVP was called.

here it is again haha:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=286523
A man is what he thinks about all day long.
Werk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States294 Posts
November 18 2011 07:31 GMT
#22
there's a really fun documentary out there called Paul McCartney is dead, and it takes a lot of the Beatles songs and plays them in reverse. This along side a bunch of other stuff has a lot of people to believe that Mr McCartney died long ago and was replaced. I don't necessarily believe this kinds stuff, but DAMN is it fascinating to me. Def check that movie out.
Do Werk Son
Beamer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States242 Posts
November 18 2011 07:37 GMT
#23
On November 18 2011 06:53 No_Roo wrote:
Well the music might be reversible, but time still is not.

Yes! I came into this thread expecting this to show up somewhere, glad it did. My favorite baskmask.
sukarestu
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia40 Posts
November 18 2011 08:54 GMT
#24
Honestly.. this is stupid
Why do we bother ponder our minds on songs that are reversed
Do you really think that artists or song writers bothered to sing the whole song backwards when they developed the song?
It is coincidental and most of these subliminal messages are very vague
Curiosity is good.. but into this? no..
These are just a bunch of perceived messages counted from some guy who was bothered to backmask a bunch of songs until he finds a song with something, with so much songs out there, there's bound to be something like this coincidentally
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