EPTOn November 11 2011 10:50 Capped wrote:
It was EA trying to make Origin look better! the bastards! :D
It was EA trying to make Origin look better! the bastards! :D
it's a conspiracy!
Steam hacked, valve issues statement - Page 7
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Silidons
United States2813 Posts
it's a conspiracy! | ||
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Neb1000
United States183 Posts
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discodancer
United States280 Posts
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askTeivospy
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I'm pretty pissed off despite not leaving my credit card information in steam | ||
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Silidons
United States2813 Posts
On November 11 2011 11:15 askTeivospy wrote: I'm surprised more people aren't angry, i guess too many people look at valve with "cant do no wrong" glasses I'm pretty pissed off despite not leaving my credit card information in steam what did valve do wrong again? the same day it happened they let all of their customers know what happened. it's their fault they got hacked i guess? what??? | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
 But these companies need to wake up and start getting REALLY serious about security. | ||
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bbm
United Kingdom1320 Posts
I'm going to keep on buying steam games, keep on using the same password on steam, etc, etc. If something I don't know turns up on my cc statement I'm going to have to ring up my company and get it refunded, but that's it. Quite frankly, taking any steps to alleviate any potential losses of this are, in my mind, unjustified panicking. | ||
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Battleaxe
United States843 Posts
At this point, just gonna watch my card, already changed my password, deauthorized all my machines via steamguard except my main one, so I feel pretty safe for now. Not much else to do really. I'm expecting valve to compensate in some way, they tend to make good on their fuckups in one way or another. I'm in enough debt with student loans as is, another $3500 if they max my credit card is the least of my worries at this point lol | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
On November 11 2011 11:15 askTeivospy wrote: I'm surprised more people aren't angry, i guess too many people look at valve with "cant do no wrong" glasses I'm pretty pissed off despite not leaving my credit card information in steam Well, I mean, what would you have them do? They got hacked, they immediately let everyone know, they had sensitive information encrypted... I mean... I don't particularly like Valve, but aside from being magically unhackable, which is a pretty unrealistic expectation for any entity that's not the CIA, I feel they handled it pretty well. | ||
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
valve still #1 | ||
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askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On November 11 2011 11:19 Silidons wrote: what did valve do wrong again? the same day it happened they let all of their customers know what happened. it's their fault they got hacked i guess? what??? Reread the OP if you want to see what Valve did wrong. I don't care if it wasn't their fault (totally hacker fault) but if I give my information to a trustworthy company i'd hope they would have security systems to prevent this in the first place otherwise if they're vulnerable to an attack hahaha good luck getting my trust again | ||
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Zealotdriver
United States1557 Posts
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screamingpalm
United States1527 Posts
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Millitron
United States2611 Posts
On November 11 2011 11:24 askTeivospy wrote: Reread the OP if you want to see what Valve did wrong. I don't care if it wasn't their fault (totally hacker fault) but if I give my information to a trustworthy company i'd hope they would have security systems to prevent this in the first place otherwise if they're vulnerable to an attack hahaha good luck getting my trust again They do have security systems in place. All credit card info is encrypted with 256 bit AES keys, which even on a supercomputer would take millenia to crack. Password and User info is encrypted as well, though not quite as securely. That'd only take months to a couple of years to crack. Just make sure you have Steam Guard enabled, and you are perfectly safe. Edit: It doesn't matter that they have the encrypted credit card info, since they will never crack the encryption. | ||
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thatsundowner
Canada312 Posts
On November 11 2011 11:21 Belisarius wrote: Well, I mean, what would you have them do? They got hacked, they immediately let everyone know, they had sensitive information encrypted... I mean... I don't particularly like Valve, but aside from being magically unhackable, which is a pretty unrealistic expectation for any entity that's not the CIA, I feel they handled it pretty well. this hack happened on sunday, we were told today | ||
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Millitron
United States2611 Posts
On November 11 2011 11:38 thatsundowner wrote: this hack happened on sunday, we were told today They didn't necessarily realize right away. Its not exactly easy to notice if someone had covertly accessed a database somewhere. They informed the public pretty much as soon as they knew. How long did Sony wait? Wasn't it a month or something? | ||
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undyinglight
United States611 Posts
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Timerly
Germany511 Posts
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
On November 11 2011 11:24 askTeivospy wrote: Reread the OP if you want to see what Valve did wrong. I don't care if it wasn't their fault (totally hacker fault) but if I give my information to a trustworthy company i'd hope they would have security systems to prevent this in the first place otherwise if they're vulnerable to an attack hahaha good luck getting my trust again That's silly though. When "trustworthy company" is defined as "completely unhackable," you're not going to be giving your details to anyone. Absolutely no one, not even the CIA. In fact, you're certainly not going to be giving your details to yourself. Valve encrypted the credit card numbers. That means nobody can do anything with the information they got, unless they somehow crack a 256-bit key, which is approximately a gajillion times harder than just getting into valve's systems. Valve did their part. Are there things they could have done better? Probably. There always are, and you always see them in hindsight. Were they negligent? Not even slightly. | ||
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auTo.ckc
67 Posts
Same thing here. Dota beta keys = gorgeous girl. Hackers = unsavory characters -_- User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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