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DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 09:48:25
November 10 2011 22:49 GMT
#1
Word is out that Steam has been hacked and that personal information including Billing Addresses and encrypted credit card information may have been compromised. Valve's head Gabe Newell issued that said the following:

"We do not have evidence that encrypted credit card numbers or personally identifying information were taken by the intruders, or that the protection on credit card numbers or passwords was cracked. We are still investigating," Newell wrote. "We don't have evidence of credit card misuse at this time. Nonetheless you should watch your credit card activity and statements closely."

Kotaku Article:
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A message sent just now from Valve Corporation head Gabe Newell says credit card numbers and other personal information were compromised in a defacement attack on the Steam forums this Sunday.

Valve is advising all of its Steam customers to keep close eye on their credit card activity, as those numbers were inside a database the hackers penetrated during the attack, Newell wrote. The Steam Forums are currently closed.
"We do not have evidence that encrypted credit card numbers or personally identifying information were taken by the intruders, or that the protection on credit card numbers or passwords was cracked. We are still investigating," Newell wrote. "We don't have evidence of credit card misuse at this time. Nonetheless you should watch your credit card activity and statements closely."

The database exposed during the attack "contained information including user names, hashed and salted passwords, game purchases, email addresses, billing addresses and encrypted credit card information," Newell said in the statement.


Source: http://kotaku.com/5858473/steam-hacked-valve-investigating-possible-credit-card-theft

Kotaku also put up a piece comparing this hack to the PSN one and what can the previous experience with the PSN one tell us about this:
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While the scope of the Steam Hack remains to be seen, for millions of gamers its early developments—indeed, even Valve's early statements—match those of this spring's notorious PlayStation Network outage, which may provide a guidepost for what is to come.
Earlier today, Valve confirmed that a database containing private information, including encrypted credit card information from its more than 35 million Steam customer, was exposed in a defacement attack on the Steam Forums this Sunday. The Seattle-based PC gaming giant says it has no information that any credit card numbers were stolen in the attack, but says it still is assessing the scope of the breach.

While Steam's 35 million accounts are less than half of the registered accounts affected by the 23-day PlayStation Network outage most, if not all of those, are attached to a single credit card. Many of the PlayStation Network accounts compromised in the April attack were duplicates, or even inactive, considering that PSN offers online multiplayer and PlayStation Store access for free. Indeed, when Sony announced that credit card information was caught in the PSN hack, it said roughly 12 million credit card accounts were potentially compromised.

The Steam Hack affects only the Steam Forums—the download service remains online for tomorrow's heavily anticipated release of The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. But in this case, it's more likely that the number of Steam accounts compromised is closer to the number of credit card accounts exposed, though it's unknown whether the compromised database was a comprehensive accounting of the Steam installation base, or only a portion of it.

Still, Valve has taken about as long as Sony to publicly declare the compromised information, doing so six days after the first signs of trouble. PlayStation Network was taken offline April 20; after an investigation, Sony announced April 26 that personal information, potentially credit card numbers, were exposed.

Sunday saw a defacement of the Steam Forums blamed on the hacking website Fkn0wned.com (it has not taken responsibility). After an investigation, Valve announced today that personal information, potentially credit card numbers, were exposed.

Valve's Statement today:

We learned that intruders obtained access to a Steam database in addition to the forums. This database contained information including user names, hashed and salted passwords, game purchases, email addresses, billing addresses and encrypted credit card information. We do not have evidence that encrypted credit card numbers or personally identifying information were taken by the intruders, or that the protection on credit card numbers or passwords was cracked. We are still investigating.

We don't have evidence of credit card misuse at this time. Nonetheless you should watch your credit card activity and statements closely.

While we only know of a few forum accounts that have been compromised, all forum users will be required to change their passwords the next time they login. If you have used your Steam forum password on other accounts you should change those passwords as well.

Sony's Statement on April 26:

Although we are still investigating the details of this incident, we believe that an unauthorized person has obtained the following information that you provided: name, address (city, state, zip), country, email address, birthdate, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID. ... While there is no evidence at this time that credit card data was taken, we cannot rule out the possibility. For your security, we encourage you to be especially aware of email, telephone, and postal mail scams that ask for personal or sensitive information. ... Additionally, if you use your PlayStation Network or Qriocity user name or password for other unrelated services or accounts, we strongly recommend that you change them, as well.

In the worst case scenario, what happens next will be influenced by Valve's size relative to Sony's. Though unquestionably the dominant download service among PC gamers, where PSN has a strong competitor in Xbox Live, Valve also isn't a company anywhere near the likes of Sony, with attendant friends and/or enemies in government. Console gaming scandals are also more likely to become the kind of consumer-protection issue that summoned Sony officials to Capitol Hill to explain the problem.

That said, just because Valve has enormous respect among the gaming population for its forthrightness on subjects like file-sharing and piracy, and is led by a respected developer who maintains a genuinely open-door relationship with video gamers, does not mean that today's announcement describes the size of the problem. And the Steam Forums remain offline.

If the past is any guide, we will likely discover more about the depth of this attack and the actual exposure in days to come. And then, like the PSN Hack, users will be reminded that no network is truly secure, and the price of participating in an open, connected society is eternal vigilance.

Source: http://kotaku.com/5858513/what-the-psn-outage-tells-us-about-the-steam-hack
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
November 10 2011 22:50 GMT
#2
People are desperate for Dota 2 keys.
Get it by your hands...
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
November 10 2011 22:52 GMT
#3
FUCK not steam TT_TT!
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
Ashfalt
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada83 Posts
November 10 2011 22:53 GMT
#4
Well, crap that sucks real bad >.>.....

Camail
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1030 Posts
November 10 2011 22:54 GMT
#5
This isn't PSN, so there's probably nothing to worry about. This is slightly annoying though, hopefully they will upgrade their hacking detection to catch these things earlier.
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Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
November 10 2011 22:54 GMT
#6
OH SHI-

Well, that's gonna be a problem.
I just hope the card information are all fine.
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Selkie
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States530 Posts
November 10 2011 22:55 GMT
#7
I hope my card information is fine, and that no damage was done.
AxelTVx
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada916 Posts
November 10 2011 22:55 GMT
#8
Oh shit.. this is bad..
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iLikeRain
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark504 Posts
November 10 2011 22:56 GMT
#9
People did this to get beta keys :p
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Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
November 10 2011 22:56 GMT
#10
Not good! This is one of the only online services that actually has some of my information. I'm going to change my password incase the protection gets cracked and dump that e-mail address.
Proof.
Profile Joined August 2011
535 Posts
November 10 2011 22:56 GMT
#11
At least they encrypt their data. I think PSN was straight up plain text.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17305 Posts
November 10 2011 22:57 GMT
#12
I'm assuming Valve isn't as dumb as Sony and doesn't keep their records in plain text.
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Phyrigian
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
New Zealand1332 Posts
November 10 2011 22:58 GMT
#13
--- Nuked ---
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
November 10 2011 22:58 GMT
#14
I've only used Paypal on steam so I should be fine. Just need to change my steam password and that should be that.
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 10 2011 22:58 GMT
#15
If I'm reading this right, steam was hacked and immediately let everyone know. Props to valve.

I don't think people like me are at too much risk since we use paypal. Right?
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B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
November 10 2011 23:00 GMT
#16
goddamnit cant you trust any website anymore with that kind of data?
Rybka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States836 Posts
November 10 2011 23:01 GMT
#17
No man fuck not Valve.

VALVE ARE THE GOOD GUYS
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R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10343 Posts
November 10 2011 23:01 GMT
#18
This is why it's always a good idea to un-check any "Save my payment information" check boxes. Even supposedly reputable websites can have bad security.
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OenzoXIII
Profile Joined August 2011
United States16 Posts
November 10 2011 23:01 GMT
#19
well that just blows
Voldron
Profile Joined February 2011
Greece91 Posts
November 10 2011 23:03 GMT
#20
On November 11 2011 07:50 Judicator wrote:
People are desperate for Dota 2 keys.

true
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