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Coraz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States252 Posts
November 04 2011 18:19 GMT
#861
Yep, so this company doesn't get money from me. I'm considering paying some bux for one of sayle's sweet tournaments though, so I don't hate e-sports, just TL. HEHE.

User was temp banned for this post.
Dr. Stan is my hero ((: - http://www.soundwaves2000.com/radio_liberty/
quantumslip
Profile Joined May 2010
United States188 Posts
November 04 2011 18:20 GMT
#862
so many selfish people in this thread. please close it, it's ridiculous to see the number of elitists in here who feel entitled to free everything and yet complain about the very things that TL really has no obligation to provide them.
rawr!
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
November 04 2011 18:21 GMT
#863
On November 05 2011 03:20 quantumslip wrote:
so many selfish people in this thread. please close it, it's ridiculous to see the number of elitists in here who feel entitled to free everything and yet complain about the very things that TL really has no obligation to provide them.
Yeah, this thread has served it's purpose. Found out a lot of people adblock TL, it's oh so sad.
I <3 Plexa.
kingcoyote
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States546 Posts
November 04 2011 18:22 GMT
#864
On November 05 2011 02:15 jester- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 02:07 Mig wrote:
I wish this thread would just be closed. It's depressing how self centered and selfish this community and people in general are. I can somewhat understand feeling no connection to TL from the 200 post people but man if you have 1000+ posts on TL how do you feel nothing for the site and the people who have devoted their lives to running it after you have spent so much time using their work.


]If someone doesn't want to see ads and turns off ad block, you've stepped into the realm of ripping off advertisers who pay a lot of money via ad words for ads on here that the person has absolutely no interest in.


For fuck's sake...

Did you just spin this around to say that people who don't block ads are harming TL?
tooDARKpark
Profile Joined June 2011
United States149 Posts
November 04 2011 18:24 GMT
#865
Adblock turned off, and I even click the ad if it's remotely interesting, and lately it has been.
euroboy
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden536 Posts
November 04 2011 18:28 GMT
#866
I've never understood Adblock. The idea to remove the income from internet is counter intuitive. If they didn't have ads you wouldn't be able to browse the site. Now... popups and a really excessive amount of ads is really annoying yes, but you shouldn't even be browsing those sites (if not porn, but you use another browser for that ;P). Generally, good sites know how to please the masses and wont let ads get in the way. Seriously, why block ads from Teamliquid? They are barely noticable and if you block it you still have another banner (or empty space) there.
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
November 04 2011 18:33 GMT
#867
They are useful utilities and made by the Mozilla ( firefox/waterfox ) people who don't want to be harassed by ads such. Most of the time the ads aren't even technology related or even gaming related. Some people don't want to furnish further grist for their mills. All of that happens in microseconds. Much quicker to process than downloading some files from across the world. Less watts used for longer laptop battery life.
Year 2500 Greater Israel ( Bahrain, Cyprus, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Gaza Strip, West Bank, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Yemen )
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
November 04 2011 18:34 GMT
#868
On November 05 2011 02:20 Dental Floss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 02:07 Mig wrote:
I wish this thread would just be closed. It's depressing how self centered and selfish this community and people in general are. I can somewhat understand feeling no connection to TL from the 200 post people but man if you have 1000+ posts on TL how do you feel nothing for the site and the people who have devoted their lives to running it after you have spent so much time using their work.


The problem isn't that people don't want to help TL. The problem is advertisements. If TL offered other models of support, many of the people posting about adblock would gladly use them.

For example; I would rather directly pay TL the money they would get from my advertising impressions then look at those advertisements. Does using adblock mean I'm not willing to support TL financially? No. Does it mean I would like them to implement a different model of support? Yes.


This is the equivalent of going to a restaurant, eating a big meal, and then refusing to pay for it because you are philosophically opposed to money. You would rather compensate for the food by giving something you deem far more valuable, like a poem or 5 minutes of Minesweeper coaching.

Team Liquid supports itself via advertising. The vast majority of people here find this to be an ideal solution since it incurs no real cost on them. Rather than petulantly insisting that TL cater to your personal moral objections to their business model, a sensible person would just unblock the ads and be grateful.

At the very least, you could opt not to visit TL until they offer an alternative, if you are that viscerally against advertising.
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
November 04 2011 18:35 GMT
#869
Right now I actually do have adblock on. I turned it off because I want to support TL, but for whatever reason with how the ad banner works it causes a very noticeable lag whenever I change to a different thread or a different page in a thread. If it didn't do that then yes I would turn adblock off.
MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
November 04 2011 18:39 GMT
#870
I would if I knew how to Good thing I'm lazy!
Life's good :D
Dental Floss
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1015 Posts
November 04 2011 18:40 GMT
#871
On November 05 2011 03:34 yeint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 02:20 Dental Floss wrote:
On November 05 2011 02:07 Mig wrote:
I wish this thread would just be closed. It's depressing how self centered and selfish this community and people in general are. I can somewhat understand feeling no connection to TL from the 200 post people but man if you have 1000+ posts on TL how do you feel nothing for the site and the people who have devoted their lives to running it after you have spent so much time using their work.


The problem isn't that people don't want to help TL. The problem is advertisements. If TL offered other models of support, many of the people posting about adblock would gladly use them.

For example; I would rather directly pay TL the money they would get from my advertising impressions then look at those advertisements. Does using adblock mean I'm not willing to support TL financially? No. Does it mean I would like them to implement a different model of support? Yes.


This is the equivalent of going to a restaurant, eating a big meal, and then refusing to pay for it because you are philosophically opposed to money. You would rather compensate for the food by giving something you deem far more valuable, like a poem or 5 minutes of Minesweeper coaching.

Team Liquid supports itself via advertising. The vast majority of people here find this to be an ideal solution since it incurs no real cost on them. Rather than petulantly insisting that TL cater to your personal moral objections to their business model, a sensible person would just unblock the ads and be grateful.

At the very least, you could opt not to visit TL until they offer an alternative, if you are that viscerally against advertising.


Actually TL supports itself through merchandising, sponsorships and advertising.
Kim Tae Gyun.... never forget Perfectman RIP
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
November 04 2011 18:41 GMT
#872
On November 05 2011 03:34 yeint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 02:20 Dental Floss wrote:
On November 05 2011 02:07 Mig wrote:
I wish this thread would just be closed. It's depressing how self centered and selfish this community and people in general are. I can somewhat understand feeling no connection to TL from the 200 post people but man if you have 1000+ posts on TL how do you feel nothing for the site and the people who have devoted their lives to running it after you have spent so much time using their work.


The problem isn't that people don't want to help TL. The problem is advertisements. If TL offered other models of support, many of the people posting about adblock would gladly use them.

For example; I would rather directly pay TL the money they would get from my advertising impressions then look at those advertisements. Does using adblock mean I'm not willing to support TL financially? No. Does it mean I would like them to implement a different model of support? Yes.


This is the equivalent of going to a restaurant, eating a big meal, and then refusing to pay for it because you are philosophically opposed to money. You would rather compensate for the food by giving something you deem far more valuable, like a poem or 5 minutes of Minesweeper coaching.

Team Liquid supports itself via advertising. The vast majority of people here find this to be an ideal solution since it incurs no real cost on them. Rather than petulantly insisting that TL cater to your personal moral objections to their business model, a sensible person would just unblock the ads and be grateful.

At the very least, you could opt not to visit TL until they offer an alternative, if you are that viscerally against advertising.

There are other forms of supporting it... ads is just one way of doing so... but other ppl might be buying shirts and such...
Year 2500 Greater Israel ( Bahrain, Cyprus, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Gaza Strip, West Bank, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Yemen )
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
November 04 2011 18:43 GMT
#873
On November 05 2011 03:41 nalgene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 03:34 yeint wrote:
On November 05 2011 02:20 Dental Floss wrote:
On November 05 2011 02:07 Mig wrote:
I wish this thread would just be closed. It's depressing how self centered and selfish this community and people in general are. I can somewhat understand feeling no connection to TL from the 200 post people but man if you have 1000+ posts on TL how do you feel nothing for the site and the people who have devoted their lives to running it after you have spent so much time using their work.


The problem isn't that people don't want to help TL. The problem is advertisements. If TL offered other models of support, many of the people posting about adblock would gladly use them.

For example; I would rather directly pay TL the money they would get from my advertising impressions then look at those advertisements. Does using adblock mean I'm not willing to support TL financially? No. Does it mean I would like them to implement a different model of support? Yes.


This is the equivalent of going to a restaurant, eating a big meal, and then refusing to pay for it because you are philosophically opposed to money. You would rather compensate for the food by giving something you deem far more valuable, like a poem or 5 minutes of Minesweeper coaching.

Team Liquid supports itself via advertising. The vast majority of people here find this to be an ideal solution since it incurs no real cost on them. Rather than petulantly insisting that TL cater to your personal moral objections to their business model, a sensible person would just unblock the ads and be grateful.

At the very least, you could opt not to visit TL until they offer an alternative, if you are that viscerally against advertising.

There are other forms of supporting it... ads is just one way of doing so... but other ppl might be buying shirts and such...


Call me a bitter old cynic, but I highly doubt these anti-advertising suffragettes have closets full of TL jerseys.
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
November 04 2011 18:47 GMT
#874
On November 05 2011 03:35 Lunares wrote:
Right now I actually do have adblock on. I turned it off because I want to support TL, but for whatever reason with how the ad banner works it causes a very noticeable lag whenever I change to a different thread or a different page in a thread. If it didn't do that then yes I would turn adblock off.

Loading times become noticeably longer, that sucks. If ads would be injected after page load, that would be so much better.

I am blocking ads for TL against my desire. I use noscript, but I can't seem to disable it for TL and TL-embedded content, which is the way I would like it. I only have the option to block per domain of origin, which includes ad servers, for security reasons (which I would ignore for TL's sake).
I <3 the internet, I <3 you
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
November 04 2011 18:50 GMT
#875
On November 05 2011 03:47 Badjas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 03:35 Lunares wrote:
Right now I actually do have adblock on. I turned it off because I want to support TL, but for whatever reason with how the ad banner works it causes a very noticeable lag whenever I change to a different thread or a different page in a thread. If it didn't do that then yes I would turn adblock off.

Loading times become noticeably longer, that sucks. If ads would be injected after page load, that would be so much better.

I am blocking ads for TL against my desire. I use noscript, but I can't seem to disable it for TL and TL-embedded content, which is the way I would like it. I only have the option to block per domain of origin, which includes ad servers, for security reasons (which I would ignore for TL's sake).

Performance/Battery life/Bandwidth. So you only get benefits from not seeing the ads.
Year 2500 Greater Israel ( Bahrain, Cyprus, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Gaza Strip, West Bank, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Yemen )
Dental Floss
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1015 Posts
November 04 2011 18:54 GMT
#876
On November 05 2011 03:43 yeint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 03:41 nalgene wrote:
On November 05 2011 03:34 yeint wrote:
On November 05 2011 02:20 Dental Floss wrote:
On November 05 2011 02:07 Mig wrote:
I wish this thread would just be closed. It's depressing how self centered and selfish this community and people in general are. I can somewhat understand feeling no connection to TL from the 200 post people but man if you have 1000+ posts on TL how do you feel nothing for the site and the people who have devoted their lives to running it after you have spent so much time using their work.


The problem isn't that people don't want to help TL. The problem is advertisements. If TL offered other models of support, many of the people posting about adblock would gladly use them.

For example; I would rather directly pay TL the money they would get from my advertising impressions then look at those advertisements. Does using adblock mean I'm not willing to support TL financially? No. Does it mean I would like them to implement a different model of support? Yes.


This is the equivalent of going to a restaurant, eating a big meal, and then refusing to pay for it because you are philosophically opposed to money. You would rather compensate for the food by giving something you deem far more valuable, like a poem or 5 minutes of Minesweeper coaching.

Team Liquid supports itself via advertising. The vast majority of people here find this to be an ideal solution since it incurs no real cost on them. Rather than petulantly insisting that TL cater to your personal moral objections to their business model, a sensible person would just unblock the ads and be grateful.

At the very least, you could opt not to visit TL until they offer an alternative, if you are that viscerally against advertising.

There are other forms of supporting it... ads is just one way of doing so... but other ppl might be buying shirts and such...


Call me a bitter old cynic, but I highly doubt these anti-advertising suffragettes have closets full of TL jerseys.


[image loading]
Kim Tae Gyun.... never forget Perfectman RIP
jumanji69
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada25 Posts
November 04 2011 18:55 GMT
#877
I disable adds on TL as a form of mini protest against the unjust moderation policies. Thankfully the Starcraft community seems to be moving away from TL dependence though.
Just touch it
jester-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada547 Posts
November 04 2011 18:57 GMT
#878
On November 05 2011 03:22 visual77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 02:15 jester- wrote:
On November 05 2011 02:07 Mig wrote:
I wish this thread would just be closed. It's depressing how self centered and selfish this community and people in general are. I can somewhat understand feeling no connection to TL from the 200 post people but man if you have 1000+ posts on TL how do you feel nothing for the site and the people who have devoted their lives to running it after you have spent so much time using their work.


]If someone doesn't want to see ads and turns off ad block, you've stepped into the realm of ripping off advertisers who pay a lot of money via ad words for ads on here that the person has absolutely no interest in.


For fuck's sake...

Did you just spin this around to say that people who don't block ads are harming TL?


...No, I didn't. I said that viewing/clicking ads when you have absolutely 0 interest in them and costing the advertisers money is an issue as well. I posted earlier in the thread explaining how my adblock works on TL, it's been turned off for a few days now.

It is kinda sad how this thread turned into exactly what some people were saying; this elitist attitude that if you have ad block off you're somehow above people that have it on. Everyone who posts here, adblock or not, helps team liquid grow indirectly by increasing the size of the community. People attract people and even if most of the people that are being attracted to the crowd have ad block on, a good portion will choose to disable it (or don't have it at all). Anyway, I'll stop and just say you're post is wrong.
Arise, chicken sandwich.
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 19:01:32
November 04 2011 18:58 GMT
#879
On November 05 2011 03:24 tooDARKpark wrote:
Adblock turned off, and I even click the ad if it's remotely interesting, and lately it has been.


i only get "meet this chinese girl here" ads
...
...
oh i see *nudge nudge*
;P

On November 05 2011 03:55 jumanji69 wrote:
I disable adds on TL as a form of mini protest against the unjust moderation policies. Thankfully the Starcraft community seems to be moving away from TL dependence though.


yeah i agree it's unfair, they don't ban enough people, Mani where art thou, do we need to reactivate Rek? xp

On November 05 2011 03:16 dubRa wrote:
I don't have adblock but I hate the elephant.


you are the devil :o
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
November 04 2011 19:00 GMT
#880
Yeah the adds right now are ok, i really dont mind them at all.

But if they got bigger / animated / noisy / in my face then yeah id block them in a flash.
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