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On November 03 2011 10:31 hahayoulose wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 10:00 Mafs wrote:
If I told you the more food you eat, the more fit you get, would you believe it? Of course not because common knowledge says otherwise. But I forgot to mention you also exercise 12 hours a day. I can provide the mechanism by which eating massive amounts of calories makes you more fit. You exercise burning off those calories but you need the protein from the food to gain overall muscle mass and sculpt your body. You gain overall muscle mass but do not gain weight. Look at Olympic trainers That's actually completely wrong. First of all, you don't exercise to burn calories. You consume calories to help you exercise. Secondly, you don't sculpt your body by increasing muscle mass. You sculpt your body by cutting body fat percentage which involves consuming less calories than you use. In the process of doing this, you WILL lose some muscle mass. The idea is to have enough so that once your body fat percentage is down, you still have a lot of muscle left over. Better luck next time.
the only way to build more muscle is to eat an excess calories...sculpting doesn't mean cutting
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On November 03 2011 10:57 rei wrote:
smart kid, fuck over the hands that feed her, ruins her own family's financial potential. The real asshole parents would kick the child out and tell her to get a job and feed herself. Stop downloading pirated games is not a hard request, go buy the games with daddy's allowance for crying out loud. she might really have to go feed herself now if daddy can't find a job because of this.
Happened 7 years ago I believe, the kid doesn't live with her parents, she has her own income now. The games she pirated were not available for purchase at the time. Thats what the youtube description says.
Thats said it is clear this was a trap by the girl, why would she leave the camera if she was not going to intentionally provoke her parents. Not that that excuses the over reaction or anything.
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On November 03 2011 11:08 Silidons wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 10:31 hahayoulose wrote:On November 03 2011 10:00 Mafs wrote:
If I told you the more food you eat, the more fit you get, would you believe it? Of course not because common knowledge says otherwise. But I forgot to mention you also exercise 12 hours a day. I can provide the mechanism by which eating massive amounts of calories makes you more fit. You exercise burning off those calories but you need the protein from the food to gain overall muscle mass and sculpt your body. You gain overall muscle mass but do not gain weight. Look at Olympic trainers That's actually completely wrong. First of all, you don't exercise to burn calories. You consume calories to help you exercise. Secondly, you don't sculpt your body by increasing muscle mass. You sculpt your body by cutting body fat percentage which involves consuming less calories than you use. In the process of doing this, you WILL lose some muscle mass. The idea is to have enough so that once your body fat percentage is down, you still have a lot of muscle left over. Better luck next time. the only way to build more muscle is to eat an excess calories...sculpting doesn't mean cutting
There is no sense in which the word sculpt does not mean cut. You produce a sculpture by cutting away excess material.
Aside from that you just repeated what I said.
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i see, glad everything worked out for her. She's got talents and able to support herself, hence she can afford to fuck over her dad. I guess she actually thought this through first. Think about it, she hold on to this evidence, feed off her dad till she's financially stable by herself, and then repay her dad who fed her for 20 years by ruining him. Pretty sweet revenge 
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On November 03 2011 11:11 Egyptian_Head wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 10:57 rei wrote:
smart kid, fuck over the hands that feed her, ruins her own family's financial potential. The real asshole parents would kick the child out and tell her to get a job and feed herself. Stop downloading pirated games is not a hard request, go buy the games with daddy's allowance for crying out loud. she might really have to go feed herself now if daddy can't find a job because of this. Happened 7 years ago I believe, the kid doesn't live with her parents, she has her own income now. The games she pirated were not available for purchase at the time. Thats what the youtube description says. Thats said it is clear this was a trap by the girl, why would she leave the camera if she was not going to intentionally provoke her parents. Not that that excuses the over reaction or anything.
Maybe she knew what would be coming, the punishment doesn't always follow immedeatly after the "crime" is found out, maybe her mother found out what she was doing and told her that she'll tell her father when he'll be back from work in the evening.
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On November 03 2011 09:54 BuGzlToOnl wrote:
Lol at the people saying its "disgusting, horrible, despicable ect...". Its a beating what do you expect? Beatings aren't suppose to be pretty.What's funnier - for me at least- is that those posts are primarily coming from the US. It was a house RULE - no matter how stupid we make it out to be - it was put in place. She broke it - she got punished. The end.
Also this brought back memories. *Sigh* good times lol. I remember doing the exact same thing she did. Took 15-20 lickings to my legs because I wouldn't give my parents my ass to be beat. Legs hurt 10x more so I don't know why I ever did it. This isn't bad at all. There's really no mental scars. You'll be hurting for the next 2-3 days but really that's all. She's not even really crying at all towards the end. And the parents do explain why she got beat and why they were upset with her.
Its not as big of a deal as people are making it out to be. Last beating I had was 14. My younger sister was 16 because she did something really stupid. All in all instilled discipline/made me learn. Have nothing against my parents for beating me. 99% of the beatings I got I KNEW I did something wrong.
I'd say 75% of my CLOSE family members cousins/uncles/aunts are heavy into drugs or in prison doing LONG sentences. Varying from drug trafficking to killing of their wife. Grew up in a bad part of town. I remember hearing jokes when I was younger from family about me being beat with the belt by my dad and how they were going to send their kids to live with us so they would learn to behave. I actually thank my parents for beating me looking back at things and comparing myself to the people I grew up with that were never touched.
<3 Rearing the Asian stories btw.
It's not really the beating that was disturbing so much as it was what the guy was saying and how he was saying it while doing it.
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this story made it on Anderson Cooper 360 right now
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On November 03 2011 11:19 SilentchiLL wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 11:11 Egyptian_Head wrote:On November 03 2011 10:57 rei wrote:
smart kid, fuck over the hands that feed her, ruins her own family's financial potential. The real asshole parents would kick the child out and tell her to get a job and feed herself. Stop downloading pirated games is not a hard request, go buy the games with daddy's allowance for crying out loud. she might really have to go feed herself now if daddy can't find a job because of this. Happened 7 years ago I believe, the kid doesn't live with her parents, she has her own income now. The games she pirated were not available for purchase at the time. Thats what the youtube description says. Thats said it is clear this was a trap by the girl, why would she leave the camera if she was not going to intentionally provoke her parents. Not that that excuses the over reaction or anything. Maybe she knew what would be coming, the punishment doesn't always follow immedeatly after the "crime" is found out, maybe her mother found out what she was doing and told her that she'll tell her father when he'll be back from work in the evening.
My concern is is she acting for the camera? Is she trying to make it seem worse than it is, I mean it would have seemed better if she had just bent over the bed. She is without a doubt provoking her parents. By refusing to obey. Now personally I think she is in the right refusing, I have no problem with hitting a child as punishment but a 16 year old is not a child. But it is something to think about, she planted the camera, she is intentionally inflaming the situation, is it a stretch to think she might be exaggerating everything a little? Don't get me wrong I do think the parents are way out of line and something should be done to them. But it is something to consider all the same.
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On November 03 2011 10:06 snejstorm wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 09:54 BuGzlToOnl wrote:
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I'd say 75% of my CLOSE family members cousins/uncles/aunts are heavy into drugs or in prison doing LONG sentences. Varying from drug trafficking to killing of their wife. Grew up in a bad part of town. I remember hearing jokes when I was younger from family about me being beat with the belt by my dad and how they were going to send their kids to live with us so they would learn to behave. I actually thank my parents for beating me looking back at things and comparing myself to the people I grew up with that were never touched.
[..] Sounds like wild west. May I enlighten you to what the mother and daughter actually think? The people directly involved? Show nested quote +Hallie Adams writes: "I am praying for my daughters and me and my family to heal in all ways from emotional and physical abuse, for the current and continuing abuse of my children and me that has been ongoing to end - starting now - for my daughters to both finally be able to go to counseling both individually and as a family group with their Dad's approval, encouragement, involvement and support, for him to finally make amends to all of us, talk openly with us, and take the first steps to letting our broken family heal."
Her daughter, Hillary Adams told us today she uploaded the video on October 27th to bring attention to the problems she says she had when she was younger. "My father's harassment was getting really bad, so I decided to finally publish the video that I had been sitting on for 7 years," Adams said. Source: http://www.kztv10.com/full-coverage/judge-videotaped-beating-daughter/#fcanchorThing is, I am not familiar with American rainbow press. I hope this source is valid.
That's just for the press. The American press/news always has a hard on for political correctness. You can't really say anything without there being week long castings if your senator or congressman that was politically incorrect on what ever issue. Him being a judge gets some prime time on the Internet maybe news later on.
Take a look at her room. Fancy computer, big wooden desk and chair, a decent amount of books on the her book shelf, a Bart Simpons poster along with two other posters that appear to be some sort of anime. CLEARLY she's abused and her parents don't love her enough to buy her things. Not to say that buying material things for your child means in absolute that they love her to death. But it takes into account the fact that they care enough to buy her things that she might like/have asked for.
She really wasn't abused - not based on this video. If she's butthurt now its more than likely due to other reasons. Maybe jumping the gun here, but so is everyone else crying ABUSE. Friends I know that were beaten as kids that I still talk to openly joke about being beat whenever the topic comes up - as do I. You learn.
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This is why you keep a kukri in your room...
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On November 03 2011 09:54 BuGzlToOnl wrote:
Lol at the people saying its "disgusting, horrible, despicable ect...". Its a beating what do you expect? Beatings aren't suppose to be pretty.What's funnier - for me at least- is that those posts are primarily coming from the US. It was a house RULE - no matter how stupid we make it out to be - it was put in place. She broke it - she got punished. The end.
Also this brought back memories. *Sigh* good times lol. I remember doing the exact same thing she did. Took 15-20 lickings to my legs because I wouldn't give my parents my ass to be beat. Legs hurt 10x more so I don't know why I ever did it. This isn't bad at all. There's really no mental scars. You'll be hurting for the next 2-3 days but really that's all. She's not even really crying at all towards the end. And the parents do explain why she got beat and why they were upset with her.
Its not as big of a deal as people are making it out to be. Last beating I had was 14. My younger sister was 16 because she did something really stupid. All in all instilled discipline/made me learn. Have nothing against my parents for beating me. 99% of the beatings I got I KNEW I did something wrong.
I'd say 75% of my CLOSE family members cousins/uncles/aunts are heavy into drugs or in prison doing LONG sentences. Varying from drug trafficking to killing of their wife. Grew up in a bad part of town. I remember hearing jokes when I was younger from family about me being beat with the belt by my dad and how they were going to send their kids to live with us so they would learn to behave. I actually thank my parents for beating me looking back at things and comparing myself to the people I grew up with that were never touched.
<3 Rearing the Asian stories btw.
No offense my friend, but I don't think you ever got beat like the girl did in the beginning, and then had your dad leave and then come back again because "he didn't get his real licks in." The guy is fucked up, period. He's also a "judge." Someone who attests to being of good moral character, sound mind, and clear judgement. You think that's what he was exercising in this situation? I don't think so.
On November 03 2011 09:31 LaNague wrote:
even if punishing children with violenece was smart, this guy didnt punish her, he beat her up.
He hit her uncontrolled while swearing a lot and threatening her like its a streetfight.
100% accurate. Regardless of what you think of corporal punishment, the guy is clearly not in control of his actions. I mean he is, but he is acting out of rage, not out of love (true discipline only comes out of love I think) or a desire for his daughter to be a better person. He's just fucking pissed and wants to beat his kid.
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That made me like...really sick...like I'm having a hard time sitting up right. That stuff usually doesn't get to me, but that just makes me disgusted. That man deserves to be in jail for the rest of his life.
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On November 03 2011 11:11 Egyptian_Head wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 10:57 rei wrote:
smart kid, fuck over the hands that feed her, ruins her own family's financial potential. The real asshole parents would kick the child out and tell her to get a job and feed herself. Stop downloading pirated games is not a hard request, go buy the games with daddy's allowance for crying out loud. she might really have to go feed herself now if daddy can't find a job because of this. Happened 7 years ago I believe, the kid doesn't live with her parents, she has her own income now. The games she pirated were not available for purchase at the time. Thats what the youtube description says. Thats said it is clear this was a trap by the girl, why would she leave the camera if she was not going to intentionally provoke her parents. Not that that excuses the over reaction or anything.
I think the last sentence really nails it. For the sake of clarity lets assume the child is a duplicitous thieving liar and the father is generally level headed. Even in this potential reality it should be impossible for the girl to provoke her father into this behavior. He literally says he is going to beat her into submission. I understand why entrapment offends rei (which I think he assumes this is) but even if there was no camera the beating still would have happened and it would still be just as wrong. A judge shouldnt be doing things that will make him lose his job in public or in private.
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Before I say anything else, I need to make clear that I don't agree with the actions of the man.
Yes, corporal punishment (i.e. spanking) is a part of many households; for many families, its simply how parents enforce their rules and control their kids. Whether this method is effective or the best is an entirely different topic. Some people will say that it helped them and others (such as myself) will say it was not a positive influence even in the long run.
However, putting that aside, I think there comes a point where every parent needs to realize "Hey, my son/daughter is just too old/big for me to be spanking them, or attempting to beat them into submission". The girl in the video is 16 years old. Personally, I feel that is well beyond the age/maturity that someone needs to be physically punished. Regardless of the severity of the beating, 16 is just too old in my opinion. There are far more rational ways to punish the daughter (take away other privelages, put the computer in the middle of the house where everyone can see what she's doing, etc). Poor decision making by the father.
She did get belted pretty hard, and I feel like excessive punishments only breed resentment in children for their parents. I personally got belted/whipped a lot, and as a result, I drew myself away from a normal parent-child relationship.
It's really unfortunate that these kinds of situations exist in the world, and we should all think about how many thousands of families have similar/worse conditions. I hope justice is served.
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I understand that most people have their reasons for their believes depending on what they been exposed to, but I would like to share my point of view.
When I was still little, after my day tried to discipline me with a belt, my mom told him: "If you ever lay your hands on our children again, I will leave you". My dad is a bit of a power freak and I dont know how our lives would turned out if he did try it again. One thing I know, that I most grateful to my mom and dad and they have my total respect to how they raised me and my sister.
You will have hard time trying to raise a child that doesn't do what you want if in your family moral or physical abuse was the way to go. We all have to try to be better and more understanding human beings, even in this crazy world.
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Innocent until proven guilty.
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On November 03 2011 11:48 TheNihilist wrote:Innocent until proven guilty. Everyone in the world has seen the video of him hitting his daughter 20 times with the belt, as far as I know he's already guilty.
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I think she sealed her own faith here. She could have just bended over and gotten on the bed and it would have ended much faster. And her parents already warned her before hand not to pirate stuff, and as a judge who hopefully knows the price of pirating stuff, he punished her accordingly. And her video taping it beforehand is a bit sketchy.
Although I agree she did deserve a little bit, she definitively didn't need all of those blows, and some of them looked pretty hard too. He should have taken her computer away from her after.
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I like how some posters try to justify corporal punishment with their own experiences.
Saying things like "I was hit a few times growing up, it wasn't that bad."
"Physical punishment isn't as bad as you make it out to be, I was spanked a few times."
Please..how can you compare getting spanked a few times to a man full out belting someone with their full force?
On November 03 2011 11:11 Egyptian_Head wrote:
Thats said it is clear this was a trap by the girl, why would she leave the camera if she was not going to intentionally provoke her parents. Not that that excuses the over reaction or anything.
This sort of point just makes me laugh. It can be easily pointed the other way, saying that she's been abused repeatedly in the past before. Enough to know that it was likely to happen again, and that she should take measures against it. It's obvious that this is not a first time thing.
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On November 03 2011 11:50 Kamais_Ookin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 11:48 TheNihilist wrote:On November 03 2011 09:37 vol_ wrote:From a local news site http://www.kztv10.com/full-coverage/judge-videotaped-beating-daughter/Adams won't be returning anytime soon. according to County Judge Mills, he's volunteered to take paid leave until the State Commission on Judicial Conduct reviews the case. Beat the shit out of your daughter - get paid vacation. Innocent until proven guilty. Everyone in the world has seen the video of him hitting his daughter 20 times with the belt, as far as I know he's already guilty.
That's not how any proper justice system works. You don't convict based on public opinion. I am certain the man has paid leave because it is standard procedure any time a judge is accused of misconduct. You have to determine guilt before you are allowed to destroy a person's career.
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