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Was hoping I wouldn't have to make this warning, but jesus christ you guys just can't help yourselves, can you?!? I'm disappointed, but not surprised.

Anyways...

This thread is about this particular act/individual, and doesn't need to turn into a flame fest about the merits of the war, wars in general, or to bash nations.

See if you can control yourselves.
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
September 18 2011 11:33 GMT
#81
On September 18 2011 20:31 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 20:23 Deadlyfish wrote:
On September 18 2011 20:15 JFKWT wrote:
Why are users being warned for being anti-war/anti-army?

that being said, cool guy saved 36 for 8 taliban lives so mathematically thats probably a bit of a (pyrrhic) victory I guess?

=/ ??


Yea thats 36 lives saved and 0 lost.

This guy really deserves the medal.

Talibans don't have lives, that's interesting.

Can you explain the reasoning?



Sure, they kill innocent people, among them women and children. Killing a taliban is not a life lost in my opinion. Especially not when they're trying to kill you. If someone is shooting at wounded soldiers or whatever, their life doesnt really mean anything to me.
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7943 Posts
September 18 2011 11:38 GMT
#82
On September 18 2011 20:33 Deadlyfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 20:31 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On September 18 2011 20:23 Deadlyfish wrote:
On September 18 2011 20:15 JFKWT wrote:
Why are users being warned for being anti-war/anti-army?

that being said, cool guy saved 36 for 8 taliban lives so mathematically thats probably a bit of a (pyrrhic) victory I guess?

=/ ??


Yea thats 36 lives saved and 0 lost.

This guy really deserves the medal.

Talibans don't have lives, that's interesting.

Can you explain the reasoning?



Sure, they kill innocent people, among them women and children. Killing a taliban is not a life lost in my opinion. Especially not when they're trying to kill you. If someone is shooting at wounded soldiers or whatever, their life doesnt really mean anything to me.

When you don't consider your enemies as being humans anymore, you are in serious trouble.

And the idea that life of some people doesn't have any value is... disturbing, for the least.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
September 18 2011 11:41 GMT
#83
Uh oh a thread about Marines on TL. Time for 100 Starcraft jokes and 101 bans from Kennigit.
Retvrn to Forvms
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 11:47:32
September 18 2011 11:42 GMT
#84
On September 18 2011 20:33 Deadlyfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 20:31 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On September 18 2011 20:23 Deadlyfish wrote:
On September 18 2011 20:15 JFKWT wrote:
Why are users being warned for being anti-war/anti-army?

that being said, cool guy saved 36 for 8 taliban lives so mathematically thats probably a bit of a (pyrrhic) victory I guess?

=/ ??


Yea thats 36 lives saved and 0 lost.

This guy really deserves the medal.

Talibans don't have lives, that's interesting.

Can you explain the reasoning?



Sure, they kill innocent people, among them women and children. Killing a taliban is not a life lost in my opinion. Especially not when they're trying to kill you. If someone is shooting at wounded soldiers or whatever, their life doesnt really mean anything to me.

are you serious?? i cant believe what i just read. disturbing and really really sad to say the least.
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 11:44:16
September 18 2011 11:43 GMT
#85
On September 18 2011 20:38 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 20:33 Deadlyfish wrote:
On September 18 2011 20:31 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On September 18 2011 20:23 Deadlyfish wrote:
On September 18 2011 20:15 JFKWT wrote:
Why are users being warned for being anti-war/anti-army?

that being said, cool guy saved 36 for 8 taliban lives so mathematically thats probably a bit of a (pyrrhic) victory I guess?

=/ ??


Yea thats 36 lives saved and 0 lost.

This guy really deserves the medal.

Talibans don't have lives, that's interesting.

Can you explain the reasoning?



Sure, they kill innocent people, among them women and children. Killing a taliban is not a life lost in my opinion. Especially not when they're trying to kill you. If someone is shooting at wounded soldiers or whatever, their life doesnt really mean anything to me.

When you don't consider your enemies as being humans anymore, you are in serious trouble.

And the idea that life of some people doesn't have any value is... disturbing, for the least.


I would consider them human. But when taliban warriors, who already have sort of a bad rep, are trying to kill wounded soldiers then i dont think you should really care about them. And i would not consider their lives lost a bad thing.

Obviously you should never kill someone if it can be avoided, but in this case i dont think that is a possibility.
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
Equity213
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada873 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 13:02:22
September 18 2011 11:45 GMT
#86
sorry I dont cheer for murderers. No matter how warm and bubbly it makes you feel inside. Aww a beer with president isnt that nice.

User was temp banned for this post and a horrible moderation history at this site.
GGitsJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
New Zealand426 Posts
September 18 2011 11:46 GMT
#87
100% Legit.
"A reason becomes an excuse if you don't do anything about it."
Lafie
Profile Joined August 2005
Finland36 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 12:57:58
September 18 2011 11:54 GMT
#88
On September 18 2011 20:33 Deadlyfish wrote:
Sure, they kill innocent people, among them women and children. Killing a taliban is not a life lost in my opinion. Especially not when they're trying to kill you. If someone is shooting at wounded soldiers or whatever, their life doesnt really mean anything to me.


= No warnings.

sorry I dont cheer for murderers. No matter how warm and bubbly it makes you feel inside. Aww a beer with president isnt that nice.


= Temp ban.

We can at least see which side the moderators are.

User was warned for this post

Specifically, being off topic after the warning was issued
TearsOfTheSun
Profile Joined March 2006
Canada995 Posts
September 18 2011 11:57 GMT
#89
phenominal. the 3 youngest people to recieve and be still living are 23, 26 and 32. the next is 61. thats incredible and this man is a hero. even though i have my own opinions on the war and all this stuff i still consider him a hero
Dixer_ca^^ | Polt | Byun | MKP | DRG | White-Ra | Beastyqt | Maru | Creator
acidfreak
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania352 Posts
September 18 2011 12:06 GMT
#90
War does not born heroes anymore, it borns stock market profits.
You can't out-think the swarm, you can't out-maneuver the swarm, and you certainly can't break the morale of the swarm.
reneg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
September 18 2011 12:09 GMT
#91
This man is a hero, i'm very glad that he's serving in our military and is willing to go above and beyond to help save other lives.

100% support him.

What a BA. Also props on a beer w/ the president!
moose...indian
gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
September 18 2011 12:15 GMT
#92
On September 18 2011 14:06 Torte de Lini wrote:
I think the medal of honor that went to the man who used his helmet and body to cover a grenade and save his troops was a lot more amazing than this story.

Both are heroic and exceptional! But that story touched me a lot more D:


Yeah, that kinda stuff will have me shedding manly tears in no time.
www.teamproperty.net | "You should hate losing, but you should never fear defeat." - 이윤열
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
September 18 2011 12:16 GMT
#93
On September 18 2011 20:54 Lafie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 20:33 Deadlyfish wrote:
Sure, they kill innocent people, among them women and children. Killing a taliban is not a life lost in my opinion. Especially not when they're trying to kill you. If someone is shooting at wounded soldiers or whatever, their life doesnt really mean anything to me.


= No warnings.
Show nested quote +

sorry I dont cheer for murderers. No matter how warm and bubbly it makes you feel inside. Aww a beer with president isnt that nice.


= Temp ban.

We can at least see which side the moderators are.


Looks like they're not on the side of the people that treat women like shit and set off bombs in crowded marketplaces. What a shocker.
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
September 18 2011 12:21 GMT
#94
He fought, got the Medal of Honour and lived to drink beer with the president...
This man, is a hero!
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
September 18 2011 12:24 GMT
#95
On September 18 2011 21:16 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 20:54 Lafie wrote:
On September 18 2011 20:33 Deadlyfish wrote:
Sure, they kill innocent people, among them women and children. Killing a taliban is not a life lost in my opinion. Especially not when they're trying to kill you. If someone is shooting at wounded soldiers or whatever, their life doesnt really mean anything to me.


= No warnings.

sorry I dont cheer for murderers. No matter how warm and bubbly it makes you feel inside. Aww a beer with president isnt that nice.


= Temp ban.

We can at least see which side the moderators are.


Looks like they're not on the side of the people that treat women like shit and set off bombs in crowded marketplaces. What a shocker.

you just totally missed the point good sir
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
September 18 2011 12:28 GMT
#96
Now that's a hero.

And rofl at his request to have a beer with the president. XD
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
September 18 2011 12:32 GMT
#97
On September 18 2011 21:24 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 21:16 BlackJack wrote:
On September 18 2011 20:54 Lafie wrote:
On September 18 2011 20:33 Deadlyfish wrote:
Sure, they kill innocent people, among them women and children. Killing a taliban is not a life lost in my opinion. Especially not when they're trying to kill you. If someone is shooting at wounded soldiers or whatever, their life doesnt really mean anything to me.


= No warnings.

sorry I dont cheer for murderers. No matter how warm and bubbly it makes you feel inside. Aww a beer with president isnt that nice.


= Temp ban.

We can at least see which side the moderators are.


Looks like they're not on the side of the people that treat women like shit and set off bombs in crowded marketplaces. What a shocker.

you just totally missed the point good sir


I know what the guy's point is. It's just not a very good point, which is why I am mocking it
3DGlaDOS
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany607 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 12:52:00
September 18 2011 12:32 GMT
#98
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 18 2011 20:38 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 20:33 Deadlyfish wrote:
On September 18 2011 20:31 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On September 18 2011 20:23 Deadlyfish wrote:
On September 18 2011 20:15 JFKWT wrote:
Why are users being warned for being anti-war/anti-army?

that being said, cool guy saved 36 for 8 taliban lives so mathematically thats probably a bit of a (pyrrhic) victory I guess?

=/ ??


Yea thats 36 lives saved and 0 lost.

This guy really deserves the medal.

Talibans don't have lives, that's interesting.

Can you explain the reasoning?



Sure, they kill innocent people, among them women and children. Killing a taliban is not a life lost in my opinion. Especially not when they're trying to kill you. If someone is shooting at wounded soldiers or whatever, their life doesnt really mean anything to me.

When you don't consider your enemies as being humans anymore, you are in serious trouble.

And the idea that life of some people doesn't have any value is... disturbing, for the least.


Don't be overcorrect, if you'd be there you would think exactly like Deadlyfish.
If you're in favor of your enemy, who would kill you as soon as he sees you, you're doing it wrong as a soldier. At least in modern wars (Iraq and Afghanistan), where you don't know if it's a civilian or a Taliban.
War is bad, and really disturbing and terrific actions are done on both sides. IMO you can't look away in a part of the world where bad things happen, and to help this country it's for me okay to use the military to get peace in this country (like e.g. in Iraq, the situation there is getting better). For this we need people (or "heroes") like Mr.Meyer!
But why don't we (or rather the US and UK army, since the rest of europe doesn't do much) for example help in Sri Lanka or the dozen of african countries where civil wars are going on? It's interesting, because these countries don't have much economical potential.
I'm just asking this question since I haven't heard a reasonable answer to it.
Hello Sir, do you have a minute for atheism?
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 12:42:13
September 18 2011 12:39 GMT
#99
On September 18 2011 21:32 wBsKillian wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 18 2011 20:38 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 20:33 Deadlyfish wrote:
On September 18 2011 20:31 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On September 18 2011 20:23 Deadlyfish wrote:
On September 18 2011 20:15 JFKWT wrote:
Why are users being warned for being anti-war/anti-army?

that being said, cool guy saved 36 for 8 taliban lives so mathematically thats probably a bit of a (pyrrhic) victory I guess?

=/ ??


Yea thats 36 lives saved and 0 lost.

This guy really deserves the medal.

Talibans don't have lives, that's interesting.

Can you explain the reasoning?



Sure, they kill innocent people, among them women and children. Killing a taliban is not a life lost in my opinion. Especially not when they're trying to kill you. If someone is shooting at wounded soldiers or whatever, their life doesnt really mean anything to me.

When you don't consider your enemies as being humans anymore, you are in serious trouble.

And the idea that life of some people doesn't have any value is... disturbing, for the least.


Don't be overcorrect, if you'd be there you would think exactly like Deadlyfish.
If you're in favor of your enemy, who would kill you as soon as he sees you, you're doing it wrong as a soldier.
War is bad, and really disturbing and terrific actions are done on both sides. IMO you can't look away in a part of the world where bad things happen, and to help this country it's for me okay to use the military to get peace in this country (like e.g. in Iraq, the situation there is getting better). For this we need people (or "heroes") like Mr.Meyer!
But why don't we (or rather the US and UK army, since the rest of europe doesn't do much) for example help in Sri Lanka or the dozen of african countries where civil wars are going on? It's interesting, because these countries don't have much economical potential.
I'm just asking this question since I haven't heard a reasonable answer to it.

Your first point is just not true..
http://history1900s.about.com/od/1910s/a/christmastruce.htm

and well, to your point with the african countries, its not really related to the thread.
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
vGl-CoW
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Belgium8305 Posts
September 18 2011 12:43 GMT
#100
Are you guys blind to the warning at the top of this thread?

"This thread is about this particular act/individual, and doesn't need to turn into a flame fest about the merits of the war, wars in general, or to bash nations."

One more word that's off-topic and I'm dishing out tempbans.
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