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acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
January 24 2012 03:03 GMT
#7061
Economist is having a field day.
GreenManalishi
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada834 Posts
January 24 2012 03:05 GMT
#7062
On January 24 2012 12:01 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 11:58 GreenManalishi wrote:
On January 24 2012 11:57 1Eris1 wrote:
On January 24 2012 11:54 Derez wrote:
I like Paul's answer on Cuba, but answers like this scare me.



Wait, why? It made perfect sense to me...I don't think Iran actually wants to close the Straits and hurt their economy


If you read the statement, it is pretty clear Iran wants the EU to keep buying their oil. Closing the straights was a threat to prevent the EU from leveling more sanctions against Iran.


Of course they do? Are you saying they shouldn't stand up against the EU and just let themselves get sanctioned?


No, not at all. I was agreeing with you, and pointing out that Iran has been pretty clear on why they are threatening closing the straight.
Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
January 24 2012 03:05 GMT
#7063
On January 24 2012 11:59 Saryph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 11:58 Kimaker wrote:
Sad fact of this debate, and the whole republican nomination process with the given candidates:

Ron Paul consistently makes the most sense on foreign policy, but because of the militant conservatives he'll never win based on that.



No, no he doesn't. None of them make that much sense, but if you put aside Iran, Paul probably makes the least amount of sense.

Matter of opinion. I don't agree with Paul on certain parts of his policies but as a whole I far prefer them to Obama's or Bush's. He straight up blows the other candidates out of the water in terms of respecting the people. But, I don't really know what I'm against, what's your take then?
Entusman #54 (-_-) ||"Gold is for the Mistress-Silver for the Maid-Copper for the craftsman cunning in his trade. "Good!" said the Baron, sitting in his hall, But Iron — Cold Iron — is master of them all|| "Optimism is Cowardice."- Oswald Spengler
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
January 24 2012 03:05 GMT
#7064
Dear god. They were teaching them foreign languages in schools. We all know how the republicans feel about those that speak french, or chinese.
GreenManalishi
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada834 Posts
January 24 2012 03:08 GMT
#7065
On January 24 2012 12:05 Derez wrote:
Dear god. They were teaching them foreign languages in schools. We all know how the republicans feel about those that speak french, or chinese.


Sweet jesus, I speak those languages! There goes my dream of becoming President of the United States.
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
January 24 2012 03:09 GMT
#7066
On January 24 2012 12:08 GreenManalishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 12:05 Derez wrote:
Dear god. They were teaching them foreign languages in schools. We all know how the republicans feel about those that speak french, or chinese.


Sweet jesus, I speak those languages! There goes my dream of becoming President of the United States.

Poor Huntsman
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
January 24 2012 03:09 GMT
#7067
On January 24 2012 12:05 Kimaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 11:59 Saryph wrote:
On January 24 2012 11:58 Kimaker wrote:
Sad fact of this debate, and the whole republican nomination process with the given candidates:

Ron Paul consistently makes the most sense on foreign policy, but because of the militant conservatives he'll never win based on that.



No, no he doesn't. None of them make that much sense, but if you put aside Iran, Paul probably makes the least amount of sense.

Matter of opinion. I don't agree with Paul on certain parts of his policies but as a whole I far prefer them to Obama's or Bush's. He straight up blows the other candidates out of the water in terms of respecting the people. But, I don't really know what I'm against, what's your take then?



Well there are lots of problems with Ron Paul's beliefs, but concerning foreign policy, leaving all international organizations, such as the UN, and closing all overseas military bases, are not things that will benefit our country. Maybe after the debate I can get a little more in depth about it if you'd like.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
January 24 2012 03:10 GMT
#7068
Is it just me, or does Romney just agree with what Gingrich says?
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 03:13:27
January 24 2012 03:12 GMT
#7069
Or switch topics... like with this sugarcane question...
Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
January 24 2012 03:12 GMT
#7070
On January 24 2012 12:09 Saryph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 12:05 Kimaker wrote:
On January 24 2012 11:59 Saryph wrote:
On January 24 2012 11:58 Kimaker wrote:
Sad fact of this debate, and the whole republican nomination process with the given candidates:

Ron Paul consistently makes the most sense on foreign policy, but because of the militant conservatives he'll never win based on that.



No, no he doesn't. None of them make that much sense, but if you put aside Iran, Paul probably makes the least amount of sense.

Matter of opinion. I don't agree with Paul on certain parts of his policies but as a whole I far prefer them to Obama's or Bush's. He straight up blows the other candidates out of the water in terms of respecting the people. But, I don't really know what I'm against, what's your take then?



Well there are lots of problems with Ron Paul's beliefs, but concerning foreign policy, leaving all international organizations, such as the UN, and closing all overseas military bases, are not things that will benefit our country. Maybe after the debate I can get a little more in depth about it if you'd like.

I would argue that leaving international organizations isn't an issue if you're willing to talk in the first place without having the rest of the world nudge you. In the face of willing diplomatic parties the UN becomes moot. Now, if you're taking this from the stance that the United States represents an economic and political empire that should be maintained, that's a whole new can of worms.

tl;dr:

I'm game. I like talking
Entusman #54 (-_-) ||"Gold is for the Mistress-Silver for the Maid-Copper for the craftsman cunning in his trade. "Good!" said the Baron, sitting in his hall, But Iron — Cold Iron — is master of them all|| "Optimism is Cowardice."- Oswald Spengler
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
January 24 2012 03:13 GMT
#7071
Ahh yes the houses under water is why the sugar is...

wait what?
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
January 24 2012 03:13 GMT
#7072
On January 24 2012 12:12 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
Or switch topics... like with this sugar question...

It was a ridiculous question anyhow.

And did Ron Paul just pander?
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 03:17:22
January 24 2012 03:15 GMT
#7073
Certainly it's smaller in scale than more pertinent questions that should to be asked, but it's still relevant to the Florida economy and needed to be addressed directly.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 03:18:32
January 24 2012 03:17 GMT
#7074
It a hypocritical question because all voters want to see pork cut, yet every primary asks candidates to endorse the specific pork a state is getting. And it keeps getting asked.

Oh dear. It's time for values. I'm hiding under my pillow.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 03:21:16
January 24 2012 03:20 GMT
#7075
I really wonder what Santorum's position would have been if Terri Schiavo was a married lesbian.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
January 24 2012 03:23 GMT
#7076
Gotta say, I REALLY like what Romney is saying about NASA.
tso
Profile Joined April 2010
United States132 Posts
January 24 2012 03:23 GMT
#7077
an american on mars.. wtf kinda question is that
...
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
January 24 2012 03:25 GMT
#7078
On January 24 2012 12:23 tso wrote:
an american on mars.. wtf kinda question is that

My only hope is that I live long enough to receive cybernetic organs and live on a Mars colony.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
January 24 2012 03:25 GMT
#7079
The problem with NASA is that noone wants to fund it. Spacetravel is high cost with long term returns, shitty for term bound politicians to invest in. The reason NASA isn't going anywhere is that nobody wants to pay to make it go anywhere.
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
January 24 2012 03:25 GMT
#7080
On January 24 2012 12:12 Kimaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 12:09 Saryph wrote:
On January 24 2012 12:05 Kimaker wrote:
On January 24 2012 11:59 Saryph wrote:
On January 24 2012 11:58 Kimaker wrote:
Sad fact of this debate, and the whole republican nomination process with the given candidates:

Ron Paul consistently makes the most sense on foreign policy, but because of the militant conservatives he'll never win based on that.



No, no he doesn't. None of them make that much sense, but if you put aside Iran, Paul probably makes the least amount of sense.

Matter of opinion. I don't agree with Paul on certain parts of his policies but as a whole I far prefer them to Obama's or Bush's. He straight up blows the other candidates out of the water in terms of respecting the people. But, I don't really know what I'm against, what's your take then?



Well there are lots of problems with Ron Paul's beliefs, but concerning foreign policy, leaving all international organizations, such as the UN, and closing all overseas military bases, are not things that will benefit our country. Maybe after the debate I can get a little more in depth about it if you'd like.

I would argue that leaving international organizations isn't an issue if you're willing to talk in the first place without having the rest of the world nudge you. In the face of willing diplomatic parties the UN becomes moot. Now, if you're taking this from the stance that the United States represents an economic and political empire that should be maintained, that's a whole new can of worms.

tl;dr:

I'm game. I like talking



I personally would rather have our country be a part of, especially when we have a leading role in, an international organization that fosters global diplomacy and communication. The body was created to increase the ease with which countries can communicate with each other, and has succeeded at such, and leaving it would more likely than not reverse such progress.

I just can't see the benefits of cutting all foreign aid, closing all military bases overseas, and leaving all international organizations and military alliances such as the UN, NATO, the ICC, etc outweighing the losses our country will suffer.

I think decisions we've made in the past have hurt our reputation, such as Iraq, but withdrawing our military to our own borders and disbanding it for the most part (in the past Ron Paul has suggested that all we really need to defend ourselves are a few well placed submarines) is not the correct strategy.
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