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On January 22 2012 11:34 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 11:32 Derez wrote:On January 22 2012 11:30 1Eris1 wrote:On January 22 2012 11:24 Corvette wrote:On January 22 2012 11:19 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I really hope he runs 3rd party and does well enough to be in the debates with Obama/Republican. I'm just not interested at all in following the general election if it's just going to be Obama vs Gingrich or Obama vs Romney. I hope he does too, If the "Americans Elect" thing works then Paul will have a chance to make a 3rd party run. I'm actually really curious about the idea of Paul as a third party candidate. It's obvious he has a deep following on both sides of the spectrum and this could cause huge ruptures in the National Election. The thing is, if Paul runs, the Republican Nominee is basically fucked, but Obama might not be. BUT, if Paul can pull enough votes off of Obama there is a very large posibility that no one wins the majority and the election goes to the House of Representatives for deciding, something we haven't seen in over 100 years. You don't need a majority for president? Or at least, Clinton got elected with a plurality not a majority. I'm 99% positive you need a majority of electoral college votes but you do not need a majority of votes. brb wikipedia
Clinton won both with a plurality, so did Bush in 2000(?). But we haven't had a third party win an entire state in a while, so I forget if electoral college majority or plurality needed to win. If it's a tie it goes into congress, I remember that.
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Newt's leading a nice little conservative circle jerk here. Very impressive speech.
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On January 22 2012 11:34 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 11:32 Derez wrote:On January 22 2012 11:30 1Eris1 wrote:On January 22 2012 11:24 Corvette wrote:On January 22 2012 11:19 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I really hope he runs 3rd party and does well enough to be in the debates with Obama/Republican. I'm just not interested at all in following the general election if it's just going to be Obama vs Gingrich or Obama vs Romney. I hope he does too, If the "Americans Elect" thing works then Paul will have a chance to make a 3rd party run. I'm actually really curious about the idea of Paul as a third party candidate. It's obvious he has a deep following on both sides of the spectrum and this could cause huge ruptures in the National Election. The thing is, if Paul runs, the Republican Nominee is basically fucked, but Obama might not be. BUT, if Paul can pull enough votes off of Obama there is a very large posibility that no one wins the majority and the election goes to the House of Representatives for deciding, something we haven't seen in over 100 years. You don't need a majority for president? Or at least, Clinton got elected with a plurality not a majority. I'm 99% positive you need a majority of electoral college votes but you do not need a majority of votes. brb wikipedia
You need a majority of the electoral college votes to win the presidency otherwise teh president is elected by the house and the vice president elected by the senate.
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So Newt is going after Paul supporters in Florida since he's not competing there.
Again with the Lincoln-Douglas debates.
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And again with the teleprompter.
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People cheering for seven (!!!) three hour debates. I'd think Gingrich would run out of insults at some point.
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Newt: [something Republican-sounding he's already said before]
Crowd: Wooo! USA! USA! USA! USA! [et cetera ad nauseum]
Rinse and repeat.
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Thank god Newt won. I refuse to support Romney.
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On January 22 2012 11:34 Corvette wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 11:30 1Eris1 wrote:On January 22 2012 11:24 Corvette wrote:On January 22 2012 11:19 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I really hope he runs 3rd party and does well enough to be in the debates with Obama/Republican. I'm just not interested at all in following the general election if it's just going to be Obama vs Gingrich or Obama vs Romney. I hope he does too, If the "Americans Elect" thing works then Paul will have a chance to make a 3rd party run. I'm actually really curious about the idea of Paul as a third party candidate. It's obvious he has a deep following on both sides of the spectrum and this could cause huge ruptures in the National Election. The thing is, if Paul runs, the Republican Nominee is basically fucked, but Obama might not be. BUT, if Paul can pull enough votes off of Obama there is a very large posibility that no one wins the majority and the election goes to the House of Representatives for deciding, something we haven't seen in over 100 years. Well if it goes to house of reps then the republican nominee would win right? and yeah, if he makes a 3rd party run sadly dont think that he could get 51%, but he would definitely make an impact. Thats why we need to use the Alternative Vote that the British tried to change to last year.
You never know. A few hundred votes are a lot more variant than a few hundred million.
Say Obama gets 125 electoral votes, Romney/Gingrich/etc, 100, and Paul 45. Some representatives (republicans that is) might actually vote for Obama because they believe he technically won the election...
Well, err. Thats what I would do if I were a rep, regardless of our repsective parties.
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So now he is going after Santorum voters.
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On January 22 2012 11:40 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 11:34 Corvette wrote:On January 22 2012 11:30 1Eris1 wrote:On January 22 2012 11:24 Corvette wrote:On January 22 2012 11:19 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I really hope he runs 3rd party and does well enough to be in the debates with Obama/Republican. I'm just not interested at all in following the general election if it's just going to be Obama vs Gingrich or Obama vs Romney. I hope he does too, If the "Americans Elect" thing works then Paul will have a chance to make a 3rd party run. I'm actually really curious about the idea of Paul as a third party candidate. It's obvious he has a deep following on both sides of the spectrum and this could cause huge ruptures in the National Election. The thing is, if Paul runs, the Republican Nominee is basically fucked, but Obama might not be. BUT, if Paul can pull enough votes off of Obama there is a very large posibility that no one wins the majority and the election goes to the House of Representatives for deciding, something we haven't seen in over 100 years. Well if it goes to house of reps then the republican nominee would win right? and yeah, if he makes a 3rd party run sadly dont think that he could get 51%, but he would definitely make an impact. Thats why we need to use the Alternative Vote that the British tried to change to last year. You never know. A few hundred votes are a lot more variant than a few hundred million. Say Obama gets 125 electoral votes, Romney/Gingrich/etc, 100, and Paul 45. Some representatives (republicans that is) might actually vote for Obama because they believe he technically won the election... Well, err. Thats what I would do if I were a rep, regardless of our repsective parties.
Having watched what the house has done for the past 13 months I can tell you there is a better chance of them deciding to vote for me for president than voting for Obama.
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Gingrich is now claiming credit for job creation under Clinton, back when he was acting as roadblock to anything that happened.
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On January 22 2012 11:40 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 11:34 Corvette wrote:On January 22 2012 11:30 1Eris1 wrote:On January 22 2012 11:24 Corvette wrote:On January 22 2012 11:19 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I really hope he runs 3rd party and does well enough to be in the debates with Obama/Republican. I'm just not interested at all in following the general election if it's just going to be Obama vs Gingrich or Obama vs Romney. I hope he does too, If the "Americans Elect" thing works then Paul will have a chance to make a 3rd party run. I'm actually really curious about the idea of Paul as a third party candidate. It's obvious he has a deep following on both sides of the spectrum and this could cause huge ruptures in the National Election. The thing is, if Paul runs, the Republican Nominee is basically fucked, but Obama might not be. BUT, if Paul can pull enough votes off of Obama there is a very large posibility that no one wins the majority and the election goes to the House of Representatives for deciding, something we haven't seen in over 100 years. Well if it goes to house of reps then the republican nominee would win right? and yeah, if he makes a 3rd party run sadly dont think that he could get 51%, but he would definitely make an impact. Thats why we need to use the Alternative Vote that the British tried to change to last year. You never know. A few hundred votes are a lot more variant than a few hundred million. Say Obama gets 125 electoral votes, Romney/Gingrich/etc, 100, and Paul 45. Some representatives (republicans that is) might actually vote for Obama because they believe he technically won the election... Well, err. Thats what I would do if I were a rep, regardless of our repsective parties.
I agree about that, however I can't really see many politicians seeing past their parties.
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The format for each debate was: one candidate spoke for 60 minutes, then the other candidate spoke for 90 minutes, and then the first candidate was allowed a 30-minute "rejoinder." The candidates alternated speaking first. As the incumbent, Douglas spoke first in four of the debates.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln-Douglas_debates
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On January 22 2012 11:43 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +The format for each debate was: one candidate spoke for 60 minutes, then the other candidate spoke for 90 minutes, and then the first candidate was allowed a 30-minute "rejoinder." The candidates alternated speaking first. As the incumbent, Douglas spoke first in four of the debates. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln-Douglas_debates
Are they going to do this?
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Two months ago he was complaining about negative political speeches/ads. Now all he's doing is berating people who aren't Newt Gingrich.
Hypocrite much?
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On January 22 2012 11:43 Corvette wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 11:43 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:The format for each debate was: one candidate spoke for 60 minutes, then the other candidate spoke for 90 minutes, and then the first candidate was allowed a 30-minute "rejoinder." The candidates alternated speaking first. As the incumbent, Douglas spoke first in four of the debates. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln-Douglas_debates Are they going to do this?
Haha no just trying to separate reality from what newt is probably thinking.
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On January 22 2012 11:43 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Two months ago he was complaining about negative political speeches/ads. Now all he's doing is berating people who aren't Newt Gingrich.
Hypocrite much?
In his defense he did try to run a positive campaign then Romney spent about 10million dollars tearing him down. I cant really fault someone for fighting back.
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On energy:
'No American President shall ever bow again to a Saudi king'
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