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David451
United States491 Posts
On January 20 2012 10:49 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: It's been revealed, can't think of a better word, that Romney has millions in "investments" in the Cayman Islands. Revealed by what credible source? | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
If you Google "Romney Cayman Islands"... | ||
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Fighter
Korea (South)1531 Posts
On January 20 2012 13:00 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Updates concerning the SC Primary from Nate Silver: http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/fivethirtyeight/primaries/south-carolina ... the hell? How is Gingrich winning after that debate? I watched the CNN post-party for a bit, and they mentioned that Gingrich might be getting a lot of sympathy for the fact that the moderator opened right up with asking about the whole open-marriage scandal... but man... Gingrich did NOT look good in that debate :/ And seriously, how is this man going to win the general election? They mentioned the gender gap, and that's kind of a big deal. Not to mention there's no way the younger generations are going to go for him, and minorities even less so. If Gingrich gets the nomination it will be a smashing just like McCain had. Support for Obama may not be what it was four years ago and I feel the Republicans have a great shot at taking the next election, but not with Gingrich... | ||
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David451
United States491 Posts
I found nothing irregular that justified the air quotes being used on the word "investments." Just that Romney has some money there. I have no dog in this race, but facts are interesting to me. Unfortunately it seems we are light on facts when it comes to Romney's tax issues. Which would be solved if he released them but oh well. | ||
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Terry Bogard
36 Posts
On January 20 2012 12:29 Whitewing wrote: Of course Gingrich would say bringing up his affair is despicable. The man is scum enough to cheat on his wife while she's fighting off cancer, he doesn't want anything that makes him look bad being brought up. He's not a decent person, he's one hell of a huge hypocrite. Spouting 'christian' and 'family' values while cheating on his own family. Let me play Devil's Advocate. I think it's quite easy to be quick to judge - but what if you were put in his shoes? I had a friend who was in a two year relationship. Then he got cancer and his girlfriend left him because he only had three years left to live (according to the doctors). Fact of the matter is, when you are faced with having to love someone who is of lower value, your attraction for them decreases. If we were all saints, we would all be marrying people like this: + Show Spoiler + Which girl did you masturbate over and want to date when you were in high school? I guarantee that 10 times out of 10 it was a hot chick. Nobody wants the fat and ugly chick. Now we go on about how it's wrong for Gingrich to dump an older woman for a younger mistress. Well, I hope that if you feel that is ethically wrong, that you one day marry (if you're not already married) someone who no other guy wants. Because everybody wants to equally be loved. Yet we, by human nature, choose beauty over ugliness. Say there are two women. One is 40 and has never been loved. Then there is a 20 year old chick who every guy wants to marry because she's fucking sexy enough to be a pornstar. Who are you going to choose? Obviously, by purely ethical standards, it is unfair that the 60 year old has never even been kissed, simply because Jesus fucking Christ made her the way she is (physically), so you should choose her. But are you going to do it? Fuck no. And don't forget that the same thing happened with John Edwards. So let's be honest here. It's easy to get on our high horses and condemn Gingrich for dumping an ugly ass wife for a relatively hotter one. But let's not pretend none of us would do the exact same thing, or are doing the exact same thing everyday. There are thousands of cancer patients out there but how many of us are selflessly sacrificing our lives going to visit them instead of playing SC? As for Gingrich's 'Christian' values - if America wasn't so full of dumbass people who believed in fairy tales then their politicians wouldn't have to be pandering to such ridiculously retarded beliefs. | ||
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
First question, do you think obama will get reelected ? Second question, whos winning the republican nominations ? Third question, what about ron paul ? does he have a chance on this one ? thanks | ||
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Terry Bogard
36 Posts
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SoLaR[i.C]
United States2969 Posts
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Yergidy
United States2107 Posts
There is nothing illegal about it, he is paying taxes on it, even the story said that but it was at the bottom so most people would never see it... | ||
Falling
Canada11372 Posts
So what I'm reading is if your marriage partner has something terrible happen to them, you should drop them right then and there or else you should have married the most repulsive person that can be found? Makes sense. | ||
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blomsterjohn
Norway468 Posts
"selfessly sacrificing our lives" -- ???? He had been married to her for 20 years... quite another contrast? Leaving your spouse in that state (in addition, for fresh healthy one) is not only unethical, it's despicable, revolting and fucking disgusting.. | ||
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Terry Bogard
36 Posts
Let's look at ourselves. What did we spend our last hundred dollars (of spare money after rent and food) on? Probably junk food, computer games, basically entertainment stuff right. Consider this. Every night when we go to sleep, 30,000 kids in Africa die of starvation. Malnutrition and diarrhea are huge issues. And there are groups that allow you to sponsor children. Each child you sponsor is a child saved, right? But what do we do? We live our lives and get by each day entertaining ourselves, doing stuff to please ourselves, to gratify ourselves. Are we any better than someone who leaves his wife to die, when daily thousands of children are dying, yet instead of spending our money on them, we spend it on ourselves? | ||
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Terry Bogard
36 Posts
On January 20 2012 17:01 SoLaR[i.C] wrote: Well, that was a terrible series of examples you gave there. Your failure to address the issues of commitment that are connected with marriage tells me you haven't been in No idea what you're talking about here. I have had several girlfriends, and I have no expectation for them to stay with me if I ever became disabled. I also know they're not people I can trust to look after me if I ever got cancer. I go out with them because I enjoy having sex with them. As for someone who is going to look after me and my family, I would have to find someone really special. But that sort of person is very hard to find. I have to balance up what I want more - someone who cares a great deal, or someone who is hot enough to fuck. I opt for the later. Maybe when I'm a bit older I'll have to start looking for someone reliable - but in terms of girls at university - they just want to have fun and lots of sex without too much committment so it's a win-win situation. For some people, such as Gingrich, he obviously had a high libido and wanted to continue fucking younger chicks into his older years. It's just human nature. It's just part of being a sexually active man. Why should he be answerable to the average voter for his private values? The person I want to be President is someone who can run the economy. His sexual desires are irrelevant. | ||
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Falling
Canada11372 Posts
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Raambo11
United States828 Posts
On January 20 2012 17:09 Terry Bogard wrote: All I'm saying is we do horrible things everyday. Let's look at ourselves. What did we spend our last hundred dollars (of spare money after rent and food) on? Probably junk food, computer games, basically entertainment stuff right. Consider this. Every night when we go to sleep, 30,000 kids in Africa die of starvation. Malnutrition and diarrhea are huge issues. And there are groups that allow you to sponsor children. Each child you sponsor is a child saved, right? But what do we do? We live our lives and get by each day entertaining ourselves, doing stuff to please ourselves, to gratify ourselves. Are we any better than someone who leaves his wife to die, when daily thousands of children are dying, yet instead of spending our money on them, we spend it on ourselves? Dude wtf? These are people that have a chance at being PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. The president is the most powerful person in our country, and as an extension probably the world, why would we not choose not only the best and brightest, but the most moral and ethical person to lead? | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On January 20 2012 16:52 Terry Bogard wrote: Let me play Devil's Advocate. I think it's quite easy to be quick to judge - but what if you were put in his shoes? I had a friend who was in a two year relationship. Then he got cancer and his girlfriend left him because he only had three years left to live (according to the doctors). Fact of the matter is, when you are faced with having to love someone who is of lower value, your attraction for them decreases. If we were all saints, we would all be marrying people like this: + Show Spoiler + Which girl did you masturbate over and want to date when you were in high school? I guarantee that 10 times out of 10 it was a hot chick. Nobody wants the fat and ugly chick. Now we go on about how it's wrong for Gingrich to dump an older woman for a younger mistress. Well, I hope that if you feel that is ethically wrong, that you one day marry (if you're not already married) someone who no other guy wants. Because everybody wants to equally be loved. Yet we, by human nature, choose beauty over ugliness. Say there are two women. One is 40 and has never been loved. Then there is a 20 year old chick who every guy wants to marry because she's fucking sexy enough to be a pornstar. Who are you going to choose? Obviously, by purely ethical standards, it is unfair that the 60 year old has never even been kissed, simply because Jesus fucking Christ made her the way she is (physically), so you should choose her. But are you going to do it? Fuck no. And don't forget that the same thing happened with John Edwards. So let's be honest here. It's easy to get on our high horses and condemn Gingrich for dumping an ugly ass wife for a relatively hotter one. But let's not pretend none of us would do the exact same thing, or are doing the exact same thing everyday. There are thousands of cancer patients out there but how many of us are selflessly sacrificing our lives going to visit them instead of playing SC? As for Gingrich's 'Christian' values - if America wasn't so full of dumbass people who believed in fairy tales then their politicians wouldn't have to be pandering to such ridiculously retarded beliefs. well, i've seen that clip with Gingrich, and while i found his way of dodging the obviously negative topic okay, i couldnt believe he had the guts to bash on the network and staff multiple times, and what was even stranger that the public went nuts applauding his deflection every 10 second, like what the hell, the guy faced an issue, he said Fck ya all, and he became the hero.+ Show Spoiler + Also he looks like a child molester but that s just me i guess i'm trying to find a candidate to "root" for but each is crazier then the other On January 20 2012 17:09 Terry Bogard wrote: All I'm saying is we do horrible things everyday. Let's look at ourselves. What did we spend our last hundred dollars (of spare money after rent and food) on? Probably junk food, computer games, basically entertainment stuff right. Consider this. Every night when we go to sleep, 30,000 kids in Africa die of starvation. Malnutrition and diarrhea are huge issues. And there are groups that allow you to sponsor children. Each child you sponsor is a child saved, right? But what do we do? We live our lives and get by each day entertaining ourselves, doing stuff to please ourselves, to gratify ourselves. Are we any better than someone who leaves his wife to die, when daily thousands of children are dying, yet instead of spending our money on them, we spend it on ourselves? Believe me, humanitarian aid doesnt always get there to Afrikan kids, actually foreign supplies became many times another resource in conflict zones, controlled by warlords and "strongmen". There's almost no way to guarantee that those in need get it, because u have to transport to them via means which are either controlled or exposed to local governments/warlords/whoever. Ever heard of charity is when the poor people of rich country give money to rich people in poor countries? Well there's truth to it, i'm not saying nobody should ever be charitable, but throwing around numbers is just hipocricy | ||
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Chaosvuistje
Netherlands2581 Posts
On January 20 2012 17:09 Terry Bogard wrote: All I'm saying is we do horrible things everyday. Let's look at ourselves. What did we spend our last hundred dollars (of spare money after rent and food) on? Probably junk food, computer games, basically entertainment stuff right. Consider this. Every night when we go to sleep, 30,000 kids in Africa die of starvation. Malnutrition and diarrhea are huge issues. And there are groups that allow you to sponsor children. Each child you sponsor is a child saved, right? But what do we do? We live our lives and get by each day entertaining ourselves, doing stuff to please ourselves, to gratify ourselves. Are we any better than someone who leaves his wife to die, when daily thousands of children are dying, yet instead of spending our money on them, we spend it on ourselves? Yeah dude I totally agree. I mean when you're going to be the President of the United States you don't really need empathy. It's all about economics and keeping the general, unill, employed, middle class people happy. I say give him the power to reign over one of the strongest nations on the planet because we're all human right? No, infact, far off. When you want to elect someone as powerful as the president of a country, you expect a little more than the average human quips from him. If we had the choice to elect a superhuman that somehow did not make any ethical mistakes, we would. Infact, if you want to elect someone who has shown no empathy to his own flipping wife, the person you are supposed to love THE MOST out of any person, you cannot expect him to work for anybody but his own agenda, lest he be slowed down by Congress or the U.S. People. When you're supposed to be the President, you better get your A-game going, because perfection is not enough, it's only a guideline. You won't get into office being mediocre unless the other candidates are just utterly depressingly bad, which is not a choice you as a person of a country want to be making regardless. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On January 20 2012 17:02 Falling wrote: @Terry So what I'm reading is if your marriage partner has something terrible happen to them, you should drop them right then and there or else you should have married the most repulsive person that can be found? Makes sense. Taking a page out of the McCain playbook. | ||
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Hikko
United States1126 Posts
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Pleiades
United States472 Posts
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