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ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
December 03 2011 07:49 GMT
#3281
On December 03 2011 12:41 Dick Prebble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 13:46 darthfoley wrote:
perry is done, with his recent gaffe's...

one down


Never underestimate the ignorance of the Christian right.


Avoid the insult next time, and the dude's right. Perry has no chance in a general election. But, then again, none of these candidates are any good.
Pillage
Profile Joined July 2011
United States804 Posts
December 03 2011 19:23 GMT
#3282
Cain is suspending his campaign

Republican presidential hopeful Herman Cain told supporters Saturday that he is suspending his presidential campaign, which has become hobbled in recent weeks by allegations of sexual harassment and an Atlanta woman's claim that they carried on a 13-year affair.

He introduced his "Plan B" -- "continue to be a voice for the people" -- as he announced a new website, TheCainSolutions.com.

His announcement came a month before the Iowa caucuses, the first formal test of the primary season, scheduled for January 3.


Source
"Power has no limits." -Tiberius
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
December 03 2011 19:37 GMT
#3283
Cain going out is no suprise, but I'm really curious as to where his supporters will jump. Could really throw the whole thing up in the air. (Even more than it already is)
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
Pillage
Profile Joined July 2011
United States804 Posts
December 03 2011 20:06 GMT
#3284
On December 04 2011 04:37 1Eris1 wrote:
Cain going out is no suprise, but I'm really curious as to where his supporters will jump. Could really throw the whole thing up in the air. (Even more than it already is)


I'd assume most of em will end up supporting Gingrich. I just can't see most people who liked Cain to be big Romney fans.
"Power has no limits." -Tiberius
Anachronism
Profile Joined December 2011
109 Posts
December 03 2011 22:30 GMT
#3285
Burning train wreckage, next stop, american politics!

No offence to americans but come on, you and me both know lobbyism is ruining the democracy... it's spreading to Europa, that's the scary part.
Deus Vult
QuXn
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany71 Posts
December 03 2011 22:32 GMT
#3286
well the hardcore seem to go to my favorite, RON PAUL

source: http://www.dailypaul.com/190339/herman-cain-forums-has-made-their-endorsement-now-that-cain-is-out-ron-paul
Huk need use his penix. Penix imba! - oGs.MC
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 04 2011 02:21 GMT
#3287
Someone should tell Perry that executive orders CANNOT repeal laws passed by Congress.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
December 04 2011 04:35 GMT
#3288
rofl

I can't wait to watch Republicans squirm like worms over who they vote for.

Romney is the only one that stands a chance against Obama. GLHF voting.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
stevarius
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1394 Posts
December 04 2011 04:39 GMT
#3289
On December 04 2011 13:35 Cloud9157 wrote:
rofl

I can't wait to watch Republicans squirm like worms over who they vote for.

Romney is the only one that stands a chance against Obama. GLHF voting.


If you were to provide the polarity Paul has in comparison to Obama, I think Paul could win that election.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
December 04 2011 05:12 GMT
#3290
On December 04 2011 13:39 stevarius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 13:35 Cloud9157 wrote:
rofl

I can't wait to watch Republicans squirm like worms over who they vote for.

Romney is the only one that stands a chance against Obama. GLHF voting.


If you were to provide the polarity Paul has in comparison to Obama, I think Paul could win that election.

And then we remember we live in the real world and not some strange fantasy world. Paul doesn't stand a chance even in Republican primary, where the Tea Party largely adopts his platform. How would he stand a chance in a general election when he advocates policies the left and independents would NEVER agree with?
staxringold
Profile Joined October 2010
United States173 Posts
December 04 2011 05:50 GMT
#3291
On December 04 2011 04:37 1Eris1 wrote:
Cain going out is no suprise, but I'm really curious as to where his supporters will jump. Could really throw the whole thing up in the air. (Even more than it already is)


The fact that Romney stayed steady throughout the ebbs and flows of Gingrich into Bachmann into Perry into Cain into Gingrich again coupled with the fact that each rise and fall flowed so neatly into one another suggests to me this was largely a movement of the same voters, namely the conservative base that prefers ideological consistency over the electability Romney offers. Given this it's logic to think that the three other names they had supported (Gingrich, Perry, Bachmann) would snatch up most of his supporters. Given that Gingrich has already taken his share (he's the new not-Romney), I'd imagine the remaining Cain base would flow to either Perry or Bachmann (maybe with some nominal leftovers to Santorum/Paul).
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
December 04 2011 07:03 GMT
#3292
On December 04 2011 14:12 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 13:39 stevarius wrote:
On December 04 2011 13:35 Cloud9157 wrote:
rofl

I can't wait to watch Republicans squirm like worms over who they vote for.

Romney is the only one that stands a chance against Obama. GLHF voting.


If you were to provide the polarity Paul has in comparison to Obama, I think Paul could win that election.

And then we remember we live in the real world and not some strange fantasy world. Paul doesn't stand a chance even in Republican primary, where the Tea Party largely adopts his platform. How would he stand a chance in a general election when he advocates policies the left and independents would NEVER agree with?


I doubt he'll get the nomination, but I think people are so fed up with the corruption that they are willing to put aside ideology in order to gain some integrity. Paul has shown a willingness to work with progressives on some very important core issues (more so than Obama). Of course I disagree with him on damn near everything else, but we need to have some ethics and be able to hold public officials accountable before anything else matters.
MMT University is coming! http://www.mmtuniversity.org/
brain_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States812 Posts
December 04 2011 07:12 GMT
#3293
On December 04 2011 13:39 stevarius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 13:35 Cloud9157 wrote:
rofl

I can't wait to watch Republicans squirm like worms over who they vote for.

Romney is the only one that stands a chance against Obama. GLHF voting.


If you were to provide the polarity Paul has in comparison to Obama, I think Paul could win that election.



Paul's nomination would result in the most interesting election in half a century. Paul is a true libertarian, something that has been missing from American political discourse for over a hundred years. It'd be a chance at an ideological revolution, and the polarization it'd bring would be unprecedented. It'd be as clear a choice as you can make between markets and statism.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
December 04 2011 07:13 GMT
#3294
So it's down to the perennial deadbeat Newt and the guy who got skewered by John McCain last time. Obama is shaking in his boots, surely.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
December 04 2011 08:10 GMT
#3295
On December 04 2011 16:03 screamingpalm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 14:12 aksfjh wrote:
On December 04 2011 13:39 stevarius wrote:
On December 04 2011 13:35 Cloud9157 wrote:
rofl

I can't wait to watch Republicans squirm like worms over who they vote for.

Romney is the only one that stands a chance against Obama. GLHF voting.


If you were to provide the polarity Paul has in comparison to Obama, I think Paul could win that election.

And then we remember we live in the real world and not some strange fantasy world. Paul doesn't stand a chance even in Republican primary, where the Tea Party largely adopts his platform. How would he stand a chance in a general election when he advocates policies the left and independents would NEVER agree with?


I doubt he'll get the nomination, but I think people are so fed up with the corruption that they are willing to put aside ideology in order to gain some integrity. Paul has shown a willingness to work with progressives on some very important core issues (more so than Obama). Of course I disagree with him on damn near everything else, but we need to have some ethics and be able to hold public officials accountable before anything else matters.


The only "progressive" issue he has shown attachment to is Social Security, and only because people have paid into it and are expecting a return out of it. Every other program and executive department is up to the chopping block. Seriously, how would you sell a platform to environment conscious independents without the EPA, or blue collar support without the Dept. of Labor, or college students without the Dept. of Education (which runs the government backed student loans)? The minute you start shining a light on the things he would love to get rid of, you realize huge interest groups that would be devastated. As much as people respect integrity, they would much rather protect their personal prosperity. That is why somebody like Ron Paul is rare in politics.
Proko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1022 Posts
December 04 2011 08:12 GMT
#3296
Maybe someone will pick up his 999 plan... rofl.
Caster duos should compliment each others' strengths. "You look very handsome today, Tasteless."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
December 04 2011 08:24 GMT
#3297
So who is it looking like will get the nomination now? I've predicted from the start that everyone will accidentally blow themselves up until its just Romney left. Still kind of looking that way, as far as I can tell.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
December 04 2011 18:53 GMT
#3298
On December 04 2011 17:24 Mohdoo wrote:
So who is it looking like will get the nomination now? I've predicted from the start that everyone will accidentally blow themselves up until its just Romney left. Still kind of looking that way, as far as I can tell.


Romney will remain in the race until they vote someone in. Hes still probably the last person they would vote for, but like I said earlier, I will enjoy watching them squirm.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
BobTheBuilder1377
Profile Joined August 2011
Somalia335 Posts
December 05 2011 04:14 GMT
#3299
On December 04 2011 17:10 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 16:03 screamingpalm wrote:
On December 04 2011 14:12 aksfjh wrote:
On December 04 2011 13:39 stevarius wrote:
On December 04 2011 13:35 Cloud9157 wrote:
rofl

I can't wait to watch Republicans squirm like worms over who they vote for.

Romney is the only one that stands a chance against Obama. GLHF voting.


If you were to provide the polarity Paul has in comparison to Obama, I think Paul could win that election.

And then we remember we live in the real world and not some strange fantasy world. Paul doesn't stand a chance even in Republican primary, where the Tea Party largely adopts his platform. How would he stand a chance in a general election when he advocates policies the left and independents would NEVER agree with?


I doubt he'll get the nomination, but I think people are so fed up with the corruption that they are willing to put aside ideology in order to gain some integrity. Paul has shown a willingness to work with progressives on some very important core issues (more so than Obama). Of course I disagree with him on damn near everything else, but we need to have some ethics and be able to hold public officials accountable before anything else matters.


The only "progressive" issue he has shown attachment to is Social Security, and only because people have paid into it and are expecting a return out of it. Every other program and executive department is up to the chopping block. Seriously, how would you sell a platform to environment conscious independents without the EPA, or blue collar support without the Dept. of Labor, or college students without the Dept. of Education (which runs the government backed student loans)? The minute you start shining a light on the things he would love to get rid of, you realize huge interest groups that would be devastated. As much as people respect integrity, they would much rather protect their personal prosperity. That is why somebody like Ron Paul is rare in politics.


Are you saying true "progressives" are for war? Because last time I checked Ron Paul was the only candidate to pull troops from all over the world. I hope you realize we had public education before the DOE. I never understood fear mongers that say that it will be the end of public education once he gets rid of DOE. Also, your wrong when it comes to college tuition. He said he would keep that a long with other list of things Democrats would be happy with. See here for more info: http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/ron-paul-plan-to-restore-america/
HellRoxYa
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1614 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 05:49:15
December 05 2011 05:47 GMT
#3300
I would enjoy seeing Paul as president if it wasn't for the fact that bad things for America ultimately means bad things for Sweden, although in much lesser scale. Otherwise I look forward to 4 more years of Obama. Hopefully he can get more things done.

Edit: I should clarify what I mean. Paul would be great because he'd implement (barring any blockage) a lot of things which will work horrendously poorly and we will finally have true empirical evidence for this. I'm sure he'll actually get rid of a lot of "bad" stuff aswell, but that's besides the point. It'd be the biggest social experiment the planet has ever seen. And I would enjoy it immensly.
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