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TOloseGT
United States1145 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
If it's Romney he will have to go Moderate to win said votes, but he will tick off the Conservatives and the very vocal Tea Party. The rest are unelectable and Ron Paul will never get the coverage nor the money to compete. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46686 Posts
On September 23 2011 12:58 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: It seems with every debate there is an event that seems to drive more moderate voters and independents away from any GOP candidate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_nhpAT3pQk If it's Romney he will have to go Moderate to win said votes, but he will tick off the Conservatives and the very vocal Tea Party. The rest are unelectable and Ron Paul will never get the coverage nor the money to compete. Someone doesn't understand DADT, Mr. Santorum x.x | ||
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Kiarip
United States1835 Posts
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gogogadgetflow
United States2583 Posts
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On September 23 2011 13:01 Kiarip wrote: The primary is way harder for Ron Paul than the general election would be. In the general election he can appeal to a higher proportion of reasonable/open-minded people willing to listen. Ron Paul is anything but reasonable. The man is a nut as well, his nuttiness just doesn't get as much attention so a lot of people don't know about it, because the man doesn't get any attention. I can't see anyone open-minded or reasonable electing someone who genuinely wants to eliminate all public education. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46686 Posts
On September 23 2011 13:04 Whitewing wrote: Ron Paul is anything but reasonable. The man is a nut as well, his nuttiness just doesn't get as much attention so a lot of people don't know about it, because the man doesn't get any attention. I can't see anyone open-minded or reasonable electing someone who genuinely wants to eliminate all public education. Is this really true? Ron Paul wants to privatize education? Citation please? And who else wants to get rid of public education? Just wondering... as an educator, this greatly concerns me. Thanks  | ||
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Romantic
United States1844 Posts
How do I hate the federal government but not piss off all the old conservatives who love Medicare, Social Security, and the military (Which is most of the budget)? Watching Romney on one hand repeat healthcare is a state issue, then go on to bash Perry for not wanting Social Security to be a federal program was just painful and awkward. | ||
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Josealtron
United States219 Posts
On September 23 2011 13:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Is this really true? Ron Paul wants to privatize education? Citation please? And who else wants to get rid of public education? Just wondering... as an educator, this greatly concerns me. Thanks Here's just one example of him saying it, I'm sure there are more: Ron Paul vs Ed Schultz + Show Spoiler + Ron Paul: How about getting rid of the Department of Education and Department of Agriculture. Just go down the list. Get rid of it. Cut the budget in half. Everything that’s not constitutional. That’s a good place to start. | ||
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On September 23 2011 13:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Is this really true? Ron Paul wants to privatize education? Citation please? And who else wants to get rid of public education? Just wondering... as an educator, this greatly concerns me. Thanks Ah, I see, I misspoke. He said that he wants all public education gone in 1988, he has since changed his stance to merely eliminating the Department of Education, and all federal funding of public schools, from kindergarten to universities. He wants the federal government to have no role in education at all, and wants the states to do it. On the other hand, in his opinion, it should be up to the state to decide whether they want religion in their schools or not, nevermind the fact that its unconstitutional. He wants no government funding on the federal or state level for the arts at all. He wants to encourage homeschooling and private schooling, he will leave public schools intact but wants them to get less funding and encourage people to avoid them. He wants to teach creationism in schools, as an alternative "theory" ( use the word theory here in quotation marks because none of these morons know the difference between a scientific theory and a hypothesis). He wants christian schools to get tax breaks, and tax credits for christian educational programs. He wants a constitutional amendment to support school prayer. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On September 23 2011 13:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Is this really true? Ron Paul wants to privatize education? Citation please? And who else wants to get rid of public education? Just wondering... as an educator, this greatly concerns me. Thanks I am pretty sure he wants to disband the DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION and make it a state matter. I think he might as well propose to disband the federal government alltogether. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
Perry: As predicted, Perry got beaten up pretty badly on the immigration issue. Santorum, in particular, drove a pretty wicked shiv into him. I think that his answer and plan for the border is about as good as it could have been. I’m just not sure that it was enough. What really surprised me is how poorly Perry did on the healthcare issue. Healthcare is supposed to be Romney’s bane, but tonight Perry got wrecked on it. He gave a poor answer in response to the question about why Texas has a low number of uninsured, and he got absolutely crushed when he started to tangle with Romney on healthcare. In particular, his attack on Romney came off as being rambling and aimless. He clearly went off script, and it didn’t look good. Romney: Another strong showing from Romney. The guy is a machine. He’s very polished and he doesn’t make any mistakes, which may be what ultimately separates him from Perry. Bachmann: I can’t believe that she tripled down on the HPV vaccine thing. She definitely didn’t do anything to resuscitate her campaign. Huntsman: It’s rare to see a guy a talk so much and yet say so little. Gingrich: Still the smartest guy on the stage. Santorum: Still playing the attack dog. His attacks on the other candidates are always vicious and poignant. If I was one of the other candidates, I’d avoid engaging him like the plague. It just isn’t going to go well. Cain: I still really like this guy, and I like his 9/9/9 plan even more. Johnson: Best line of the night: “My neighbor’s two dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the president.” Anyway, this was his first debate and first appearance on the national stage. It definitely showed. He was visibly nervous. He only seemed to have one talking point as well: balance the budget, which he repeated in every one of his answers. Paul: Same as always. In summary: Perry was the clear loser, and Romney was the clear winner. | ||
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On September 23 2011 13:19 darthfoley wrote: Huntsman is actually sane Unfortunately he's the only one, and Republicans don't want a candidate who is competent and intelligent. | ||
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
On September 23 2011 13:21 Whitewing wrote: Unfortunately he's the only one, and Republicans don't want a candidate who is competent and intelligent. Indeed, as a democrat he's the one i'd be most likely to vote for (although i wouldn't.) Besides him Ron Paul isn't as bad as most of the mainstream retards on the stage. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On September 23 2011 13:21 Whitewing wrote: Unfortunately he's the only one, and Republicans don't want a candidate who is competent and intelligent. With the possible exception of Bachmann, Huntsman is the dumbest one up there. Did you even listen to his answers? They were some of the most inane, generic, and hollow debate responses that I've ever heard. | ||
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On September 23 2011 13:28 xDaunt wrote: With the possible exception of Bachmann, Huntsman is the dumbest one up there. Did you even listen to his answers? They were some of the most inane, generic, and hollow debate responses that I've ever heard. You also think Newt Gingrich is the most intelligent one up there, so we're going to have to agree to disagree. Huntsman is the only one who isn't a religious nut, or a complete and utter hypocrite/asshole. In my book, that makes him a winner, at least compared to the others up there. Oh, he actually supports science too, something else that is pretty important to me. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On September 23 2011 13:31 Whitewing wrote: You also think Newt Gingrich is the most intelligent one up there, so we're going to have to agree to disagree. Huntsman is the only one who isn't a religious nut, or a complete and utter hypocrite/asshole. In my book, that makes him a winner, at least compared to the others up there. Oh, he actually supports science too, something else that is pretty important to me. Fair enough, but the point that I'm making is don't confuse "I agree with this guy's positions the most" with "this guy is the most intelligent." Newt is clearly the intellectual powerhouse up there; it's not even close. Most people who are in the know won't even argue the point. However, even though I acknowledge Newt's intelligence, he still is not my preferred candidate. There are other candidates up there with whom I agree more. | ||
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Senorcuidado
United States700 Posts
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Mitt Romney
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On September 23 2011 12:13 TOloseGT wrote: All hail President Romney, I'm actually not as disillusioned with him as I was before. Thank you very much young man. I appreciate your support. *Grabs a baby and kisses it.* On September 23 2011 13:35 xDaunt wrote: Newt is clearly the intellectual powerhouse up there; it's not even close. Most people who are in the know won't even argue the point. However, even though I acknowledge Newt's intelligence, he still is not my preferred candidate. There are other candidates up there with whom I agree more. Just a selection of views from this 'intellectual powerhouse' you admire so much: | ||
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