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Leave the animal rights and treatment discussion out of this topic. Thanks. -Nyovne | ||
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Ponyo
United States1231 Posts
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SamsLiST
Germany184 Posts
B: so what, we have external slavery to keep western captialism and imperialism running/ give unborn for science/ fatten all sorts of cute little animals for eat (while some others of us starve) destroy our own and only environment (like very few other creature does) ... do you know how much I care for these bears? QQ about that is hypocritical imo | ||
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yandere991
Australia394 Posts
But I'm not surprised that this thread has sort of devolved into semi-China bashing with people chiming in that "they're sure" its worse than western nations. How is stuffing non killed baby chicks into garbage bins and kicking them around for the hell of it make you better than other nations. So Rebornlife don't call people from other country disgusting when this was filmed in your own country. | ||
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Kuni
Austria765 Posts
Do you always buy the expensive eggs from bio-farmers? Living in a cage which is only as big as yourself isn't quite the fun way to live. Do you always pay the extra bucks to avoid slaugherhouse meat? Do they get numbed before they die? Not at all, many just get ripped apart while being completely conscious. They die after hours of bleeding out or are skinned alive .. again, no anesthesia. Why? Because its cheaper by a few cent per "piece". Do you know where the meat comes from when going to KFC (as mentioned from someone else in this thread), or any other fast food company? Do you wear leather and if so, was it produced as a side product from "happy farm animals (if that even exists)" who died of old age? Even today, many pelts come from 3rd world countries, or eastern countries. It's quite funny, how they just skin some animals alive, leaving them to rot on a wheel barrow among hundreds of other almost dead corpses. Of course, it goes without saying, that they are still alive, even after having been skinned off EVERYTHING on every part of their body. Why do they do that? Easy answer. Any kind of incision could potentally damage the valuable pelt and therefore they have to be skinned alive. What about your pets? Where did you get your cat or dog from? Do you know, that a huge amount of pets are bred in barbarous conditions, small spaces and cages, where they have to live in their own shit, full of bacteria, dirt and vermin, where they are constantly abused by the "breeders"? What about fish? How many sea animals had to suffocate, because the massive nets just happen to catch EVERYTHING and not just the fish you actually seek out when fishing. Of course that story is sad, but be aware of what is going on, all the time, every minute, everywhere. You're not the actual butcher, but also, you're not as far away to be considered innocent. Of course animals have do die, if you eat a steak, but one can always choose where the steak comes from, be it a barbarous slaughterhaus or an actual farm, where they live as close a normal life, as it can be for a "livestock". However, you must be willing to pay the price and that is where many prefer to stay ignorant :-( | ||
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Arkanthiel
Philippines100 Posts
Freaky. | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On August 13 2011 11:15 Alexstrasas wrote: Also if anyone is wondering, I personally started studying TCM as soon as I finished school, but my teachers and the most prominent TCM specialists in my country all have a medical degree. Actually this is in 95%+ cases complete bullshit. Most of the TCM specialists who "claim" they have a medical degree actually just paid some cash for a faked degree. In fact this is so widespread, that it's pretty much common knowledge. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On August 13 2011 12:18 teamsolid wrote: Actually this is in 95%+ cases complete bullshit. Most of the TCM specialists who "claim" they have a medical degree actually just paid some cash for a faked degree. In fact this is so widespread, that it's pretty much common knowledge. Evidence before you start bashing my culture please. otherwise GTFO | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On August 13 2011 12:24 Blasterion wrote: Evidence before you start bashing my culture please. otherwise GTFO It's my culture too. So I'd know. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
well then, at least pay some respect to your own culture. or has living in the West gotten you turned around against your own? | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On August 13 2011 12:28 Blasterion wrote: well then, at least pay some respect to your own culture. or has living in the West gotten you turned around against your own? Okay the number obviously isn't accurate, but it's common knowledge. Lol, wtf kind of question is that anyways? There are plenty of aspects of Chinese culture that I admire. Stuff like bear farming and shit isn't one of them. | ||
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LaLLsc2
United States502 Posts
On August 13 2011 12:28 Blasterion wrote: well then, at least pay some respect to your own culture. or has living in the West gotten you turned around against your own? Rofl, living in the west.. Plenty of people in the "west" are sympathetic and / or have positive opinions of china. on topic. Humans are the true savages of the world, very sad. | ||
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vasculaR
Malaysia791 Posts
On August 13 2011 11:46 Kuni wrote: It's not too far fetched to state, that the huge majority posting in this thread also contribute in at least one way to the way things are regarding animal abuse and torture. Be it cosmetics, meat, eggs, clothing / leather, pets. You still swing the club over the baby seal's head, so to speak albeit you of course find the true stories of torture saddening. Do you always buy the expensive eggs from bio-farmers? Living in a cage which is only as big as yourself isn't quite the fun way to live. Do you always pay the extra bucks to avoid slaugherhouse meat? Do they get numbed before they die? Not at all, many just get ripped apart while being completely conscious. They die after hours of bleeding out or are skinned alive .. again, no anesthesia. Why? Because its cheaper by a few cent per "piece". Do you know where the meat comes from when going to KFC (as mentioned from someone else in this thread), or any other fast food company? Do you wear leather and if so, was it produced as a side product from "happy farm animals (if that even exists)" who died of old age? Even today, many pelts come from 3rd world countries, or eastern countries. It's quite funny, how they just skin some animals alive, leaving them to rot on a wheel barrow among hundreds of other almost dead corpses. Of course, it goes without saying, that they are still alive, even after having been skinned off EVERYTHING on every part of their body. Why do they do that? Easy answer. Any kind of incision could potentally damage the valuable pelt and therefore they have to be skinned alive. What about your pets? Where did you get your cat or dog from? Do you know, that a huge amount of pets are bred in barbarous conditions, small spaces and cages, where they have to live in their own shit, full of bacteria, dirt and vermin, where they are constantly abused by the "breeders"? What about fish? How many sea animals had to suffocate, because the massive nets just happen to catch EVERYTHING and not just the fish you actually seek out when fishing. Of course that story is sad, but be aware of what is going on, all the time, every minute, everywhere. You're not the actual butcher, but also, you're not as far away to be considered innocent. Of course animals have do die, if you eat a steak, but one can always choose where the steak comes from, be it a barbarous slaughterhaus or an actual farm, where they live as close a normal life, as it can be for a "livestock". However, you must be willing to pay the price and that is where many prefer to stay ignorant :-( well said... though i'm guilty for buying and consuming food that I know not of origin. However, we shouldn't give up on humanity.. can't expect everyone to believe in our ideals but each person standing up for the right reasons is better than nothing.... | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On August 13 2011 12:30 teamsolid wrote: Okay the number obviously isn't accurate, but it's common knowledge. Lol, wtf kind of question is that anyways? There are plenty of aspects of Chinese culture that I admire. Stuff like bear farming and shit isn't one of them. of course not, I was refering to TCM | ||
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Ansinjunger
United States2451 Posts
 It seems pretty clear humans do shitty things in every country. Regarding some of the arguing here, is it really worth it to attack a whole group of people because of what a minority did? If you want to make a difference, by all means, try. I suspect most of us are too preoccupied with our own lives and challenges however. That would describe me, although I'm certainly going to avoid bear bile and foie gras now, if they ever cross my path. | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
Bear farming is being done for TCM, if you didn't make that connection. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On August 13 2011 12:45 teamsolid wrote: Bear farming is being done for TCM, if you didn't make that connection. Sorry, refering to Acupuncture and like specifically, I do not agree to bear bile farms | ||
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BulldogBCN
Spain50 Posts
On August 12 2011 14:54 Equity213 wrote: Im not one of those PETA freaks, but is this shit really necessary? Even zoos dont seem to be worth the mild amusement we get from them. Theres nothing wrong with eating animals, but do we really have to torture them and keep them in cages? i don't get how people are able to make a distinction between killing/torturing animals for amusement (like in zoos or bullfights) and killing/torturing animals to be able to eat that burger (that only makes us sick and none of us really needs to survive) or to wear those leather sneakers. it's the same thing, don't be hypocritical. also... go vegan! | ||
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29 fps
United States5724 Posts
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Valestrum
United States246 Posts
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Selkie
United States530 Posts
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