EPTOn August 12 2011 16:24 SoKHo wrote:
although sad, i still have a hard time believing this story
although sad, i still have a hard time believing this story
This is quite common actually, I've heard this many time from Romania and Russia.
Mother Bear kills cub then self at chinese farm - Page 10
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valaki
Hungary2476 Posts
This is quite common actually, I've heard this many time from Romania and Russia. | ||
Empyrean
17050 Posts
On August 12 2011 16:25 kaisen wrote: How do you know that Jackie Chan is actually supporting this petition? What if the site is using Jackie Chan's picture to drive more people to sign the petition? PETA has done this thing in the past so I'm not buying this whole petition supported by Jackie Chan, unless I get a valid source that he actually is. It's fairly evident with a bit of googling, actually. Here's a PSA he made: http://www.moonbears.co.uk/~Jackie_Chan/72.htm | ||
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crappen
Norway1546 Posts
On August 12 2011 16:23 Empyrean wrote: Often times it's to simply realize that you can't do anything about it and go on with your life. If you're really moved to action on the subject of animal treatment, you can try to make a small positive difference where you can by buying locally and humanely raised meat, factory/cage-free eggs, etc. I am already doing this, buying as locally as I can. But then I go and buy myself some cloths, shoes, and I have no idea that these cloths may be part of some baby bear balls, cut off while mother was forced to watch.. Then I buy myself a new furniture, without knowing that this thing is cut in some forest, that humans had to slaughter local families to get. I'll take your advice to just get going with my life. One day I'll shape my own damn furniture. | ||
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kaisen
United States601 Posts
On August 12 2011 16:27 Empyrean wrote: It's fairly evident with a bit of googling, actually. Here's a PSA he made: http://www.moonbears.co.uk/~Jackie_Chan/72.htm In that case, consider me signed. | ||
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Mobius_1
United Kingdom2763 Posts
On August 12 2011 15:04 kaisen wrote: Simple. This happened in China. Place where even basic human rights are sometimes ignored. Yes, highlight China, because in a country like Hungary geese aren't forcefed to put foie gras on French tables. | ||
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Kindred
Canada396 Posts
On August 12 2011 16:25 crappen wrote: Is this REALLY how you guys raise cows? Really? If so, Im impressed by Canada. LOOOOOL Not gonna lie I laughed when i read that too lol Canada doesnt raise its cattle like he described. Maybe a few small farms but the main exporters of food dont...Hell seal hunting is another that canada has. One thing I would NEVER do is blame a whole population for it. | ||
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Empyrean
17050 Posts
On August 12 2011 16:29 Mobius_1 wrote: Yes, highlight China, because in a country like Hungary geese aren't forcefed to put foie gras on French tables. The tu quoque fallacy is an incredibly poor defense. China engages in some incredibly inhumane practices. So do other countries. That doesn't make China's shortcomings any less admissible. | ||
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kaisen
United States601 Posts
On August 12 2011 16:29 Mobius_1 wrote: Yes, highlight China, because in a country like Hungary geese aren't forcefed to put foie gras on French tables. you jelly? I don't see how Hungarian geese or French foi gras has anything to do with this. | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
Pointless cruelty is disgusting. Even worse than those Rhino poachers who grind the horn(s) up for "medicinal" purposes. | ||
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Baeras
United States140 Posts
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Geo.Rion
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very sad | ||
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LookNaph
Canada59 Posts
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.Aar
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Empyrean
17050 Posts
On August 12 2011 16:34 .Aar wrote: The way I see it.. if people make a big enough deal over this, the Chinese government might go ahead and take action to show the world how modern/civilized it is? Good PR move IMO. It'll shut down a few of the factories to show that it's making an "earnest effort" and not give a shit about the rest. You have an incredibly rosy view of the Chinese government. | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On August 12 2011 16:34 .Aar wrote: The way I see it.. if people make a big enough deal over this, the Chinese government might go ahead and take action to show the world how modern/civilized it is? Good PR move IMO. Better idea is to dry up demand, not supply. Educate the idiots who buy these products, their families will be safer for it. | ||
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Slakter
Sweden1947 Posts
Jokes aside, this is one of many things that made me go vegan and I hope this whole story can at least make at least just one person think of it aswell so we can at least get something good out of it. | ||
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Khavok1
Belize15 Posts
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ReturnStroke
United States801 Posts
On August 12 2011 15:00 travis wrote: Do they? While I am not surprised, I believe the primary reason for debeaking is that they hurt the other chickens. This is true. Chickens have a problem with killing and eating each other. Unfortunate they are put in that situation though. | ||
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Empyrean
17050 Posts
On August 12 2011 16:37 acker wrote: Better idea is to dry up demand, not supply. Educate the idiots who buy these products, their families will be safer for it. A lofty goal. The government can't do anything to the entrenchment of traditional Chinese belief. The majority of China's population is poorly educated and cling very tightly to traditional beliefs. | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On August 12 2011 16:42 Empyrean wrote: A lofty goal. The government can't do anything to the entrenchment of traditional Chinese belief. The majority of China's population is poorly educated and cling very tightly to traditional beliefs. We got rid of most of the quackery in America over the last century the same way...it takes a while, but it's more certain. Superstition tends to die fast when science comes around. And China's going to have to educate its masses sooner or later. I'm not saying that it'll get rid of all of it, but it permanently reduces it. | ||
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. I know animal cruelty happens in tons of areas of agriculture, but it always just makes me fking sad. Wish all agriculture used humane practices, even though that's mostly an empty gesture too. 
