EPTIf anything they should take a lesson in life from this and understand you have to put up with that kind of crap all your life, if you can't even handle a kid cussing at you in a game you need practice. Because there's alot worse then that coming later in life.
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Cyba
Romania221 Posts
If anything they should take a lesson in life from this and understand you have to put up with that kind of crap all your life, if you can't even handle a kid cussing at you in a game you need practice. Because there's alot worse then that coming later in life. | ||
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Aterons_toss
Romania1275 Posts
-nigger... it doesn't seem like an insult to me, its just saying that i am less likely to develop skin cancer and that my dicx is bigger then the avg on this planet -jew... which again doesn't seem like an insult... more like a compliment considering how much the Jewish ppl achieved and how much they helped at shaping the world as we know it. If you get offended that bad by this kind of insults as to make a post on tl ( a post that is kind of rageish, no offense ) then you might lack 2 certain objects in between your legs. Also why is this general OT ? Its related to sc2/gaming. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On July 12 2011 12:35 sylverfyre wrote: Freedom of speech isn't freedom to be a douchebag, it's so insulting when people stand on freedom of speech as a platform to defend racism/bigotry or other things that actually are NOT ok to say. Slander, Libel, and Threats are a few. Freedom of speech IS freedom to be a douchebag. That's the whole point of freedom of speech - so that you can't be censured simply for saying something unpopular. To paraphrase Ron Paul, 'We don't have freedom of speech so we can talk about the weather. We have freedom of speech so we can say controversial things.' | ||
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
On July 12 2011 15:55 Aterons_toss wrote: ppl only called me 3 things by now: - faggot... and meh, i kind play fagish in those games usually so... good for them, i still won ;d -nigger... it doesn't seem like an insult to me, its just saying that i am less likely to develop skin cancer and that my dicx is bigger then the avg on this planet -jew... which again doesn't seem like an insult... more like a compliment considering how much the Jewish ppl achieved and how much they helped at shaping the world as we know it. If you get offended that bad by this kind of insults as to make a post on tl ( a post that is kind of rageish, no offense ) then you might lack 2 certain objects in between your legs. Also why is this general OT ? Its related to sc2/gaming. Yeah yeah, sticks and stones...i get it and i agree. Words online are among the most ignorable things in the world. But if you think those insults are insignificant, then I know for a fact that you arent gay, black, or jewish. You are probably yet another white guy who has no idea what its like to have people telling you that you are inferior because of the way you were born. And the fact that you attack someones manhood because of your utter ignorance is just classless | ||
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Swwww
Switzerland812 Posts
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
Also faggot/gay/n*gger (fill in the vowel! its not 'i') has nothing to do with being homosexual on the internet imo. It's just calling somebody unpleasant/annoying/etc. who cares? | ||
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Taekwon
United States8155 Posts
Let them get under your skin and they've already won. Let their own lack of responsibility and sense be their own downfall to their future. Gah, slippery slope logic. | ||
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xyl0s
Switzerland30 Posts
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Malyce
Switzerland112 Posts
Hi, I am a young heterosexual white pseudo-christian male, as most people posting here. The only issue quite frankly that I have with this sort of thing is that it becomes normal to associate a negative image to a state of being. The problem with calling somebody a "faggot" in game isn't so much that the person could feel offended by it, as it is that it's implicitely associating "homosexual" to "being bad at something". Also faggot/gay/n*gger (fill in the vowel! its not 'i') has nothing to do with being homosexual on the internet imo. It's just calling somebody unpleasant/annoying/etc. who cares? If I were a homosexual or a black person, or hell even as myself, I feel offended that for some people, gay=annoying, or n*****=unpleasant. The latter is even worse seeing that it is strongly connotated with racism and can be seen as a reference to slavery. What to do about it? Curl up in a ball and cry for humanity I'd say. No use in reporting them or banning them, it's not going to change the way they think nor is it going to induce self-criticism on assimilated semantics. It's just going to make them rage even more and call the guy who reports them or bans them a f*kin fag n**** Boycott streams that use this sort of language perhaps would be a start, although for an immense majority this is quite the non-issue. But that's easy for me to say, as P all I need is my darling duckloadgodballerwhiteRa. | ||
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
On July 12 2011 17:40 Malyce wrote: Hi, I am a young heterosexual white pseudo-christian male, as most people posting here. The only issue quite frankly that I have with this sort of thing is that it becomes normal to associate a negative image to a state of being. The problem with calling somebody a "faggot" in game isn't so much that the person could feel offended by it, as it is that it's implicitely associating "homosexual" to "being bad at something". If I were a homosexual or a black person, or hell even as myself, I feel offended that for some people, gay=annoying, or n*****=unpleasant. The latter is even worse seeing that it is strongly connotated with racism and can be seen as a reference to slavery. What to do about it? Curl up in a ball and cry for humanity I'd say. No use in reporting them or banning them, it's not going to change the way they think nor is it going to induce self-criticism on assimilated semantics. It's just going to make them rage even more and call the guy who reports them or bans them a f*kin fag n**** Boycott streams that use this sort of language perhaps would be a start, although for an immense majority this is quite the non-issue. But that's easy for me to say, as P all I need is my darling duckloadgodballerwhiteRa. But those words literally don't mean they're that they're "homosexuals"... On July 12 2011 16:18 Mykill wrote: there's a filter, use it if you care. Also faggot/gay/n*gger (fill in the vowel! its not 'i') has nothing to do with being homosexual on the internet imo. It's just calling somebody unpleasant/annoying/etc. who cares? pretty much just "unpleasant/annoying" as a slang than its true meaning... thou + any of these... /thrall/base/cringing worm would also work... or foul+knave... | ||
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Malyce
Switzerland112 Posts
Even if it has become a slang and has been normalised doesn't mean it's still fine to use them. It's just that people don't realise that to a certain minority, the use of such language is offensive. In other words if you are a homosexual, you cheese a dude and he calls you "fkin fag", even if he means "your play is annoying", textually it's still "you play like a gay person, in other words very bad", and as a member of the targetted community you can and probably will feel legitimately offended. You can also see it this way. It's unfair to gay people that "gay" is used to designate bad play. Why isn't the word "hetero" used instead? Quite frankly the only reason is that the gaming community has been and to a certain extent still is homophobic and homophobic rants have normalised into everyday language. | ||
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Wolvmatt.
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On July 12 2011 17:40 Malyce wrote: The problem with calling somebody a "faggot" in game isn't so much that the person could feel offended by it, as it is that it's implicitely associating "homosexual" to "being bad at something". No, by calling somebody a faggot you are associating homosexuality with intelligence, honesty, red hair, siamese cats, and spaghetti. Do you see the flaw in your argument now? You can fill in the blank with anything because you aren't actually associating homosexual with anything other than your opponent. | ||
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Malyce
Switzerland112 Posts
On July 12 2011 18:00 Wolvmatt. wrote: No, by calling somebody a faggot you are associating homosexuality with intelligence, honesty, red hair, siamese cats, and spaghetti. Do you see the flaw in your argument now? You can fill in the blank with anything because you aren't actually associating homosexual with anything other than your opponent. There are no flaws in my arguments  You don't say "you fag" when you compliment somebody on their test results. You say it negatively, or at least that's the cultural norm. And I hope when you call your opponent a fag it's because you think he played bad, and not just because you think he's a homosexual. Or else it becomes plain ridiculous, "you banshee rushed me, you must like other men! Not that there's anything wrong with it" as Seinfeld would say. | ||
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amd098
Korea (North)1366 Posts
you cant get a game without being insulted on 1) your sexual orientation, 2) your race, 3) your religion, or 4) your anatomy | ||
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
On July 12 2011 17:59 Malyce wrote: Words like "fag" or "gay" are primarily used to designate homosexuals. There's a reason for which these words and not others were used to designate bad players/cheesers/all-iners. Even if it has become a slang and has been normalised doesn't mean it's still fine to use them. It's just that people don't realise that to a certain minority, the use of such language is offensive. In other words if you are a homosexual, you cheese a dude and he calls you "fkin fag", even if he means "your play is annoying", textually it's still "you play like a gay person, in other words very bad", and as a member of the targetted community you can and probably will feel legitimately offended. You can also see it this way. It's unfair to gay people that "gay" is used to designate bad play. Why isn't the word "hetero" used instead? Quite frankly the only reason is that the gaming community has been and to a certain extent still is homophobic and homophobic rants have normalised into everyday language. But those "gay" people are also "full of joy or mirth" which is basically what the word means... unless you meant the slang form of it...it'd be completely different... "full of joy or mirth" at the time of origin | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10991 Posts
Your complaining about getting Insulted. Just grow some skin. I think i actually never used "Gay" to insult a Gay person, or any person... Some things are just "gay" :p... | ||
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tripledoubles
Australia213 Posts
im sure it is pretty similar in any western country, but growing up in australia swearing practically becomes a complete non-factor by the time you hit adulthood | ||
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Malyce
Switzerland112 Posts
On July 12 2011 18:13 nalgene wrote: But those "gay" people are also "full of joy or mirth" which is basically what the word means... unless you meant the slang form of it...it'd be completely different... "full of joy or mirth" at the time of origin When people began using the word in videogames, or in general as an insult, they weren't referring to "full of joy". They were referring to the homosexuality. Basically when we pick up these insults today, we're recycling the heritage of our homophobic forefathers. Just like the "n" word with the heritage of former slave owners. Not a heritage I'd like to pick up. Edit: Velr my Swiss comrade, you have been contaminated! But quite frankly I just don't the idea that what used to be an insult (or still is for some people) has become sooooo overused that nobody even cares where it comes from anymore, except for the community targeted by it. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5714 Posts
If we're talking about shit talk and just harassing people with curse words then no leave them alone, simply ignore or block them, problem solved. | ||
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