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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-24 23:17:19
August 24 2018 23:11 GMT
#14061
What exactly are you arguing with your link? Are you saying that the prize is higher than the odds? That's impossible due to the nature of a lottery. If the prizepool is high it just means that all the other previous gamblers lost more. The only time it can be higher is in a selective instances.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23488 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-24 23:45:36
August 24 2018 23:29 GMT
#14062
On August 25 2018 08:11 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
What exactly are you arguing with your link? Are you saying that the prize is higher than the odds? That's impossible due to the nature of a lottery. Don't be fooled by jimmiec GH, a lottery will never have a prize higher than the odds unless whoever is running it just wants to lose money.

That if the Simberto's math was close enough, that somewhere at around a $500m (pretax I think) the ticket is worth about ~$2 or the purchase price.

You're right that the way they are run that it's rare enough of an occurrence that they never actually lose money as a result. That's to say the hundreds or thousands of drawings where the prize is lower than the odds more than balances out the handful where the prize is higher. But to my point, occasionally it does so happen that (ignoring that the same body is going to get 1/3 or more of it back as taxes) the prize is higher than the odds.

So if you wanted to waste money on a lottery ticket (Simberto calculated the Mega millions specifically), you want to do it when the EV get's close to the purchase price (~$530m), but I guess in fairness the whole prize splitting potential means it's probably never really there as you say.

Though I suppose if you could know how many tickets are in play and what combinations have been chosen (some sort of data scraping from the servers that track it) you could adjust for that a bit. It's hard for me to think abstractly about what would influence odds more without slogging through the math (that I'd probably mess up anyway).
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 25 2018 02:51 GMT
#14063
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11638 Posts
August 25 2018 19:12 GMT
#14064
Another in the line of Simbertos questions about the UK:

How do i figure out how much a bus ticket (goldline) costs? Their website utterly refuses to tell me, and tells me that i need to call their service center. I have no interest in doing that (because i do not have a UK phone, and an international call from my german cellphone will be expensive, especially if i have to wait in line for 30 minutes until talking to a person) I cannot believe that they don't have that information available online in 2018.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-25 21:39:46
August 25 2018 21:39 GMT
#14065
I did write that it can be higher in selective instances, but apparently nobody read that.

As for goldline, a bus service I have never heard of before, the wewbsite looks like a right mess. Clicking on about leads to page not found. What a joke. Only thing I can find is Belfast to Dublin or Derry to Dublin which ranged from 8-23 depending on single or return, website or station. I cannot beleive it either.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23488 Posts
August 25 2018 21:45 GMT
#14066
On August 26 2018 06:39 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I did write that it can be higher in selective instances, but apparently nobody read that.

As for goldline, a bus service I have never heard of before, the wewbsite looks like a right mess. Clicking on about leads to page not found. What a joke. Only thing I can find is Belfast to Dublin or Derry to Dublin which ranged from 8-23 depending on single or return, website or station. I cannot beleive it either.



It's clear from the quotes and the previous time you made the statement that you added that later. That's probably why people didn't read it.

@Simberto, have you looked at the cost of adding unlimited international calling to your cell plan for a month or two, might be worth the ~$15-30 for the convenience. They can usually prorate it if you start in the middle of a month or whatever too.

"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
August 25 2018 22:18 GMT
#14067
Tbh it isn't that expensive to call the uk. Might be different if you're stuck in a loop for ages but for short calls its no problem. If you're on land-line you can always go for a cheap "Vorwahl".

Apart from that maybe smarty.co.uk ships outside of the UK by now? Sorry for not looking it up myself but I'm logged in right now and can't seem to really access what I want and don't quite remember the password...
It's a provider that has no fixed term contracts and is rather cheap for 4g coverage compared to German prices - imo.
passive quaranstream fan
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States712 Posts
August 27 2018 01:13 GMT
#14068
Is it more right to spend 30 years twisting your penis back to 0º from 270º, or keep trucking it for another 10 years.

+ Show Spoiler +
He looks the worst at 180.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
August 27 2018 05:12 GMT
#14069
I have no idea what it is you are asking.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4966 Posts
August 27 2018 07:19 GMT
#14070
Why does it take 30 years? Just snap it back immediately like a real man!
Taxes are for Terrans
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5296 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-27 08:15:37
August 27 2018 08:14 GMT
#14071
maths says you should go the extra 90 'cause you end up in the same position anyway.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 27 2018 21:15 GMT
#14072
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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
August 27 2018 21:24 GMT
#14073
Very much depends on what they eat. Mainly sugar, not so bad, except for them. Mainly meat bad for them and bad for the environment.

And also very much depends on what clothing habits are assumed. If in general it's assumed to be the same as a "skinny" person, then of course the environmental impact will differ. But for some clothes washing, especially if you use a t-shirt more than 20odd times (a number that's in the back of my head from LCA class back then during my studies), can make for the biggest impact in the life cycle.

The same can be said about extreme bodybuilders and sportsmen though as they require an excessive amount of calories compared to the average 2000 cal dietary recommendation (don't quote me on the unit).

The transport usually is negligible though compared to farming, fertilising, feeding and processing /preparing. This will differ from food to food though but should apply as a rule of thumb.
passive quaranstream fan
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23488 Posts
August 27 2018 23:49 GMT
#14074
How did the word "Sanction" come to have meanings completely opposite of each other?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
hirwrt201
Profile Joined August 2018
1 Post
August 28 2018 09:03 GMT
#14075
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kidcrash
Profile Joined September 2009
United States623 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-28 18:58:53
August 28 2018 17:49 GMT
#14076
Given the most advanced example of our current propulsion technology, how long would it take for us to launch a space probe and it eventually pass voyager 1 in distance? We are going to assume seemingly infinite fuel capacity.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11638 Posts
August 28 2018 17:51 GMT
#14077
If you assume infinte fuel capacity, really quickly. The main thing limiting spaceflight is fuel.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-28 18:34:47
August 28 2018 18:32 GMT
#14078
Never, because a satellite orbit around an object, unless this is some funny orbiting path, the satellite will just go round the orbit forever.
kidcrash
Profile Joined September 2009
United States623 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-28 18:59:16
August 28 2018 18:58 GMT
#14079
On August 29 2018 03:32 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Never, because a satellite orbit around an object, unless this is some funny orbiting path, the satellite will just go round the orbit forever.


You're right, I'm going to change the wording in the initial post to space probe.
Oshuy
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands529 Posts
August 28 2018 19:40 GMT
#14080
On August 29 2018 02:49 kidcrash wrote:
Given the most advanced example of our current propulsion technology, how long would it take for us to launch a space probe and it eventually pass voyager 1 in distance? We are going to assume seemingly infinite fuel capacity.


Voyager 1 is somewhere around 20 billion km away with a speed little under 20km/s.
Without fuel constraints, limiting factor would be acceleration first, probe destruction second, light speed third.

Highest acceleration registered for a rocket sled is close to 1km/s² (wikipedia).

That means
2.10^13 + 2.10^4t = 1/2 * 1000 * t² where t is the time in seconds ... around 56 hours.
(by that time, the space probe is travelling at 0.6c, so bad things probably happen to it before it catches up)
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