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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
February 06 2018 08:59 GMT
#13701
On February 06 2018 08:20 Fecalfeast wrote:
After watching the superbowl and seeing how little actual football is shown i started to wonder... is there any televised sport with a worse ratio of sport:not-sport?

From the kickoff to start the game until the final whistle the superbowl took 4 hours. A regulation football game is one hour of play time (15 minute quarters) making it 1:3 football:not-football

Is the superbowl the worst?

Are you counting the olympics as a sporting event? We have ceremonies, commercials, long backstories on teams/players/coaches, backstories on the countries, preparation, scoring ...

And maybe you wouldn't count scoring in Olympics, but then you're also not counting football sports activity on the field with a stopped clock. The runner stepped out of bounds, but a second clock is ticking for the next play so players are on the field moving to the new line of scrimmage for the next play ... sport or not-sport time? The team called a timeout, but you have teams exchanging, you see them forming up ... sport or not-sport time? ((Controversial)) Six minutes reviewing the call on the field and innumerable replays, which is practically an integral part of the sport now, for better or for worse ... sport/notsport?

Or take some of the worst esports events from a few years ago (some have been televised!) where the games are paused for inordinate periods of time for technical difficulties [I'm looking at you Dota 2], and long periods of commentary in between them, with sponsor reads, interviews (+ translations), and a video talking about player backgrounds and team backgrounds for both sides. [And we love to watch the post game interviews and between-game commentary and well-developed video, but if somebody loves the Super Bowl and hates esports, they'd bring up what you're considering sport/notsport]

Honestly, Super Bowl is way up there, but I couldn't call it the clear winner.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18333 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-06 09:12:27
February 06 2018 09:09 GMT
#13702
On February 06 2018 17:59 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 08:20 Fecalfeast wrote:
After watching the superbowl and seeing how little actual football is shown i started to wonder... is there any televised sport with a worse ratio of sport:not-sport?

From the kickoff to start the game until the final whistle the superbowl took 4 hours. A regulation football game is one hour of play time (15 minute quarters) making it 1:3 football:not-football

Is the superbowl the worst?

Are you counting the olympics as a sporting event? We have ceremonies, commercials, long backstories on teams/players/coaches, backstories on the countries, preparation, scoring ...

And maybe you wouldn't count scoring in Olympics, but then you're also not counting football sports activity on the field with a stopped clock. The runner stepped out of bounds, but a second clock is ticking for the next play so players are on the field moving to the new line of scrimmage for the next play ... sport or not-sport time? The team called a timeout, but you have teams exchanging, you see them forming up ... sport or not-sport time? ((Controversial)) Six minutes reviewing the call on the field and innumerable replays, which is practically an integral part of the sport now, for better or for worse ... sport/notsport?

Or take some of the worst esports events from a few years ago (some have been televised!) where the games are paused for inordinate periods of time for technical difficulties [I'm looking at you Dota 2], and long periods of commentary in between them, with sponsor reads, interviews (+ translations), and a video talking about player backgrounds and team backgrounds for both sides. [And we love to watch the post game interviews and between-game commentary and well-developed video, but if somebody loves the Super Bowl and hates esports, they'd bring up what you're considering sport/notsport]

Honestly, Super Bowl is way up there, but I couldn't call it the clear winner.


The Olympics isn't a single game. It'd be like counting the entire NFL season.

Cricket is up there, but because the breaks are so long it's hard to call them commercial breaks. Taking a 40 minutes lunch break seems long, but a game lasts for days!

Honestly, tennis is the only sport I can think of that might come close in downtime vs actual playtime. I agree that some esports (e.g. street fighter) are also pretty bad. Technical difficulties shouldn't count. They're unplanned for. It'd like spending a football game because of snow. But even without that, some have a LOT of downtime between games.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-06 09:23:49
February 06 2018 09:20 GMT
#13703
On February 06 2018 18:09 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 17:59 Danglars wrote:
On February 06 2018 08:20 Fecalfeast wrote:
After watching the superbowl and seeing how little actual football is shown i started to wonder... is there any televised sport with a worse ratio of sport:not-sport?

From the kickoff to start the game until the final whistle the superbowl took 4 hours. A regulation football game is one hour of play time (15 minute quarters) making it 1:3 football:not-football

Is the superbowl the worst?

Are you counting the olympics as a sporting event? We have ceremonies, commercials, long backstories on teams/players/coaches, backstories on the countries, preparation, scoring ...

And maybe you wouldn't count scoring in Olympics, but then you're also not counting football sports activity on the field with a stopped clock. The runner stepped out of bounds, but a second clock is ticking for the next play so players are on the field moving to the new line of scrimmage for the next play ... sport or not-sport time? The team called a timeout, but you have teams exchanging, you see them forming up ... sport or not-sport time? ((Controversial)) Six minutes reviewing the call on the field and innumerable replays, which is practically an integral part of the sport now, for better or for worse ... sport/notsport?

Or take some of the worst esports events from a few years ago (some have been televised!) where the games are paused for inordinate periods of time for technical difficulties [I'm looking at you Dota 2], and long periods of commentary in between them, with sponsor reads, interviews (+ translations), and a video talking about player backgrounds and team backgrounds for both sides. [And we love to watch the post game interviews and between-game commentary and well-developed video, but if somebody loves the Super Bowl and hates esports, they'd bring up what you're considering sport/notsport]

Honestly, Super Bowl is way up there, but I couldn't call it the clear winner.


The Olympics isn't a single game. It'd be like counting the entire NFL season.

Cricket is up there, but because the breaks are so long it's hard to call them commercial breaks. Taking a 40 minutes lunch break seems long, but a game lasts for days!

Honestly, tennis is the only sport I can think of that might come close in downtime vs actual playtime. I agree that some esports (e.g. street fighter) are also pretty bad. Technical difficulties shouldn't count. They're unplanned for. It'd like spending a football game because of snow. But even without that, some have a LOT of downtime between games.

Even taking one sporting event out of that, the sheer amount of time devoted to non-(players engaged in sporting activity) is absurd. But I digress ... this is stupid questions stupid answers, not argue to the death on semantics.

EDIT: And if we're counting Super Bowl contested calls requiring review ... those are unplanned too, right? So if we're about to go subtracting out delays we don't like in esports, you better be prepared to do the same to the Super Bowl.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10910 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-06 09:52:17
February 06 2018 09:38 GMT
#13704
I feel like your not really «getting» what people find strange about the Super Bowl. Its not about the downtime in a game, its about the Superbowl having longer breaks and being a giant commercial.

At the Olympics and other big events there are backstories, stats and tons of fluff too BUT once the competition starts its pretty much a normal game/race.
The actual sports play out like they do at any other event. Track is Track, Downhill is downhill, longjump is longjump.... Tennis is Tennis, once the match begins the final in Wimbledon plays basically the same as any game on your nearest tennis court (probably faster because you can't argue over close points anymore :p). Even the football worldcup doesn’t change the lenght of its breaks or does anything of the sort.

The Superbowl feels very overcommercialised.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-06 14:20:10
February 06 2018 14:18 GMT
#13705
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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
February 09 2018 11:32 GMT
#13706
did we have Jordan Peterson in here?; i watched something + Show Spoiler +
and well ... got a boner.
i think thou that i could've done a better job than Cathy Newman(on what could've been saved).

(shit's new to me; found out couple days ago)
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-09 16:11:04
February 09 2018 16:10 GMT
#13707
This was "everywhere" few weeks ago, I bet it was discussed in the us politics thread.
You're now breathing manually
veQ
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland339 Posts
February 13 2018 12:46 GMT
#13708
random question to everyone here - Have your smartphone ever died on you? Im talking actual Hardware failure - CPU died / RAM issues / GPU Problems | Anything Else that made your phone unusable (Software ommited)???
I ever only few times got my old S2 (GT-I9100) into bootloop due to wrongly callibrated/faulty battery (shows 50-70% - restart phone and its down to like 5-15%) / And playing 720p video in H.264 10-Bit depth at like 2000 Kbit/s in Software decoder managed to hang my CPU and heat it to like 50 Celcius before removing the battery to prevent it from actually burning.
-It still works to this day from the time I bought it second hand in like novemmber 2013-

So far my S5 holds very freaking well, I might get a "new" battery for it, super empty rom that weights 350 MB, few extra BYO's cus its THAT empty (it didnt even have text/call, camera app), had it crash only once when I used Camera for some reason (Booted it, it froze - phone restarted)

Wanted to get Note 4 but eventually gave up cause of 5,7" screen and overall dimensions.

And yes I know S5 is SUPER old, dude really plz, but I WILL flash any phone I have - no useless bloat, longer battery life, overall faster OS (S5 boots in like 15 seconds - thats no joke here)

But i have been considering getting a spare S5 in case this one would somehow die on me. Also market availability doesnt help - it was produced for a year 2014-2015 (?) so the actuall supply is sparse and getting a "new" one is out of question (imports from china are forbidden in my eyes). Have to rely on second hand ones.

I dont like the increased sizes of new ones with the *features* (non-removable battery, no 3.5mm jack, no sd slots ETC) , also dev support is a problem as well - getting an empty ROM is a miracle in itself.

Thanks
"Victory comes to those who look forward" Proud SPECTER EVO Owner - http://imgur.com/a/Me9LU
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18333 Posts
February 13 2018 13:12 GMT
#13709
My Nexus 6P has died twice now. Both within the warranty. I'm hoping it dies a third time still within the warranty, because I'm tired of it. I actually prefer my Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 that I bought as a replacement while the Nexus was in for repairs (trash Huawei warranty doesn't even offer a replacement phone), but am using the Nexus in the hope it breaks again and they give me a properly working replacement.
karthikvarunan
Profile Joined February 2018
3 Posts
February 15 2018 08:06 GMT
#13710
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AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
February 15 2018 18:27 GMT
#13711
I never had a smartphone actually dying. Only getting slowish, and the battery running out of juice, making it unworthy of cleaning the phone (software).
I go have 'low price' smartphones (last one was a Wiko cink slim, now a Honor 5C), and keep them as long as the battery goes for a couple day, which is about 3-4 years. However I am not an intensive phone user at all.
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
February 24 2018 04:37 GMT
#13712
How do I convince my girlfriend that we need to install a urinal in our bathroom?
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28825 Posts
February 24 2018 04:52 GMT
#13713
start missing the toilet every time you go to the bathroom
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11905 Posts
February 24 2018 08:31 GMT
#13714
Block the bathroom for 30 minutes every morning, stating that it takes you that long because once you sit down on the toilet, you fall asleep again/start reading something and get lost/game on your phone.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18333 Posts
February 24 2018 09:37 GMT
#13715
On February 24 2018 17:31 Simberto wrote:
Block the bathroom for 30 minutes every morning, stating that it takes you that long because once you sit down on the toilet, you fall asleep again/start reading something and get lost/game on your phone.

Heh, I actually do that :/ Well, not the falling asleep part.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 24 2018 12:55 GMT
#13716
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AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
February 24 2018 13:17 GMT
#13717
It is actually healthier to sit.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
March 02 2018 17:33 GMT
#13718
Is there a pie and mash place somewhere in the world that actually serves eels that are not jellied or disgusting? Everyone loves grilled eels, isn't there some hipster chef out there that can make an eel dish that is not soy based to go with pie and mash? I just can't help but see this as a business opportunity that could rake in millions and save the eel industry in Britain.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18864 Posts
March 02 2018 17:35 GMT
#13719
Having only had raw eel, I can't say whether or not I like grilled eel.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-02 17:43:08
March 02 2018 17:42 GMT
#13720
On March 03 2018 02:35 farvacola wrote:
Having only had raw eel, I can't say whether or not I like grilled eel.

Wait, you had eel raw before? As a sushi chef, I never heard of anyone doing that before because it can literally kill you. We always either grilled it with a soy tare or simmered it.

But if you have, do tell because I am always pushing for people to eat all meats rare/raw. You can cook your pork medium rare now and I often eat it rare and have not gotten food poisoning. I do the same to my chicken as well.
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