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Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
January 17 2017 08:25 GMT
#11421
On January 17 2017 17:16 xM(Z wrote:
i'm working so i'll replay rarely, if ever, until the evening or a break.
i'll use your own words because it's easier:
Show nested quote +
A person is turned on by cars because he lives in a society where cars exist, are acknowledged, and are given both a social worth and a social relevance.
implies that the agent is missing and that the environment is making the choice for the individual while
Show nested quote +
based solely on the social group you ... attach yourself into
implies an agent that makes the choice based on something. so which is it?.
i can do(argue on) both but you need to validate and acknowledge them as options.


Reread both your assumptions. The. Reread what I said. Do it a lot if you have to. Its obvious reading is not your strong suite so please try again.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
January 17 2017 08:30 GMT
#11422
On January 17 2017 17:25 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 17:16 xM(Z wrote:
i'm working so i'll replay rarely, if ever, until the evening or a break.
i'll use your own words because it's easier:
A person is turned on by cars because he lives in a society where cars exist, are acknowledged, and are given both a social worth and a social relevance.
implies that the agent is missing and that the environment is making the choice for the individual while
based solely on the social group you ... attach yourself into
implies an agent that makes the choice based on something. so which is it?.
i can do(argue on) both but you need to validate and acknowledge them as options.


Reread both your assumptions. The. Reread what I said. Do it a lot if you have to. Its obvious reading is not your strong suite so please try again.

Why the aggressive tone throughout this exchange?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18382 Posts
January 17 2017 08:34 GMT
#11423
On January 17 2017 16:51 jrkirby wrote:
I've barely been on TL in the last 2 years or so. Are there any good girl blogs that I missed?

Doubt it. Shauni has been banned since forever and kushm4sta posts his blogs elsewhere.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 17 2017 08:48 GMT
#11424
On January 17 2017 17:34 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 16:51 jrkirby wrote:
I've barely been on TL in the last 2 years or so. Are there any good girl blogs that I missed?

Doubt it. Shauni has been banned since forever and kushm4sta posts his blogs elsewhere.


Is fluffy_pylon more than 2 years ago? YokoKano is always there for the rescue.

And if you want something unironically good, go to mine and pick the 5 star ones, those have pretty pictures
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
January 17 2017 08:56 GMT
#11425
On January 17 2017 17:48 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 17:34 Acrofales wrote:
On January 17 2017 16:51 jrkirby wrote:
I've barely been on TL in the last 2 years or so. Are there any good girl blogs that I missed?

Doubt it. Shauni has been banned since forever and kushm4sta posts his blogs elsewhere.


Is fluffy_pylon more than 2 years ago? YokoKano is always there for the rescue.

And if you want something unironically good, go to mine and pick the 5 star ones, those have pretty pictures


I read TL blogs for girl drama, not pictures. Those are some pretty pictures though.
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
January 17 2017 08:58 GMT
#11426
On January 17 2017 17:25 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 17:16 xM(Z wrote:
i'm working so i'll replay rarely, if ever, until the evening or a break.
i'll use your own words because it's easier:
A person is turned on by cars because he lives in a society where cars exist, are acknowledged, and are given both a social worth and a social relevance.
implies that the agent is missing and that the environment is making the choice for the individual while
based solely on the social group you ... attach yourself into
implies an agent that makes the choice based on something. so which is it?.
i can do(argue on) both but you need to validate and acknowledge them as options.


Reread both your assumptions. The. Reread what I said. Do it a lot if you have to. Its obvious reading is not your strong suite so please try again.
come on, go down the rabbit hole, i know it's hard but you can do it.
doesn't matter how many times i read them they're still unclear.
you ... attach yourself into
can happen forcefully or by choice. pick one and spare me of generalizations.
tangent:
- does the fact that the environment presents you with limited choices(as per your first quote) empties one of its agency+ Show Spoiler +
(agency is the capacity of an entity to act in any given environment)
?;

@Cascade - + Show Spoiler +
it's fine, he wants to heal; if i.r.l, we would already be hugging and he'd be crying on my shoulder.

And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
January 17 2017 09:07 GMT
#11427
On January 17 2017 17:30 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 17:25 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On January 17 2017 17:16 xM(Z wrote:
i'm working so i'll replay rarely, if ever, until the evening or a break.
i'll use your own words because it's easier:
A person is turned on by cars because he lives in a society where cars exist, are acknowledged, and are given both a social worth and a social relevance.
implies that the agent is missing and that the environment is making the choice for the individual while
based solely on the social group you ... attach yourself into
implies an agent that makes the choice based on something. so which is it?.
i can do(argue on) both but you need to validate and acknowledge them as options.


Reread both your assumptions. The. Reread what I said. Do it a lot if you have to. Its obvious reading is not your strong suite so please try again.

Why the aggressive tone throughout this exchange?


Magpie is still in stage 2 of the grieving process following the US elections.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 17 2017 09:13 GMT
#11428
On January 17 2017 17:30 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 17:25 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On January 17 2017 17:16 xM(Z wrote:
i'm working so i'll replay rarely, if ever, until the evening or a break.
i'll use your own words because it's easier:
A person is turned on by cars because he lives in a society where cars exist, are acknowledged, and are given both a social worth and a social relevance.
implies that the agent is missing and that the environment is making the choice for the individual while
based solely on the social group you ... attach yourself into
implies an agent that makes the choice based on something. so which is it?.
i can do(argue on) both but you need to validate and acknowledge them as options.


Reread both your assumptions. The. Reread what I said. Do it a lot if you have to. Its obvious reading is not your strong suite so please try again.

Why the aggressive tone throughout this exchange?


Dont act like you have never heard of xmz

I think he has quite a future on TL, if not long then at least colorful. I predict though that we will eventually shift that discussion to ... the other thread.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
January 17 2017 10:27 GMT
#11429
On January 17 2017 18:13 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 17:30 Cascade wrote:
On January 17 2017 17:25 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On January 17 2017 17:16 xM(Z wrote:
i'm working so i'll replay rarely, if ever, until the evening or a break.
i'll use your own words because it's easier:
A person is turned on by cars because he lives in a society where cars exist, are acknowledged, and are given both a social worth and a social relevance.
implies that the agent is missing and that the environment is making the choice for the individual while
based solely on the social group you ... attach yourself into
implies an agent that makes the choice based on something. so which is it?.
i can do(argue on) both but you need to validate and acknowledge them as options.


Reread both your assumptions. The. Reread what I said. Do it a lot if you have to. Its obvious reading is not your strong suite so please try again.

Why the aggressive tone throughout this exchange?


Dont act like you have never heard of xmz

I think he has quite a future on TL, if not long then at least colorful. I predict though that we will eventually shift that discussion to ... the other thread.
it is a possibility but also a choice ...
thing is, the brain is always looking to fix logical inconsistencies(akin to having an automatic bug-repair system), some/most arisen by the interaction between nature and nurture; it's why people always come back to the same topics.

anyway, to not go there, i could change the discussion to this(as an ex.): i've seen a documentary on BDSM in which the headmistress/matron/countess/whatever stopped practicing it then ask people to entertain scenarios and try to guess why. she claimed a loss of desire and a lack of pleasure from it but some people would probably know better ... (i don't know, the environment or something).

the thing is, once he makes the separation between environmental driven vs self driven, the argument pretty much dies out. the logical inconsistency will be obvious and the brain will try and fix it.
even when claiming that both exist within a taken path(in different percentages), in practice, one will always outscale the other(in/for a given example) plus, it'll muddy the waters as far as consent goes(can the environment give consent as per its %?).

(i'll go enjoy my 'Dong now)
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18382 Posts
January 17 2017 11:39 GMT
#11430
On January 17 2017 18:13 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 17:30 Cascade wrote:
On January 17 2017 17:25 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On January 17 2017 17:16 xM(Z wrote:
i'm working so i'll replay rarely, if ever, until the evening or a break.
i'll use your own words because it's easier:
A person is turned on by cars because he lives in a society where cars exist, are acknowledged, and are given both a social worth and a social relevance.
implies that the agent is missing and that the environment is making the choice for the individual while
based solely on the social group you ... attach yourself into
implies an agent that makes the choice based on something. so which is it?.
i can do(argue on) both but you need to validate and acknowledge them as options.


Reread both your assumptions. The. Reread what I said. Do it a lot if you have to. Its obvious reading is not your strong suite so please try again.

Why the aggressive tone throughout this exchange?


Dont act like you have never heard of xmz

I think he has quite a future on TL, if not long then at least colorful. I predict though that we will eventually shift that discussion to ... the other thread.

xMZ is amazingly good at skirting right along the side of banworthiness for forever and ever. I foresee a bright AND long future. Albeit an incredibly frustrating one for anybody who engages in a conversation with him
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18382 Posts
January 17 2017 11:44 GMT
#11431
On January 17 2017 17:48 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 17:34 Acrofales wrote:
On January 17 2017 16:51 jrkirby wrote:
I've barely been on TL in the last 2 years or so. Are there any good girl blogs that I missed?

Doubt it. Shauni has been banned since forever and kushm4sta posts his blogs elsewhere.


Is fluffy_pylon more than 2 years ago? YokoKano is always there for the rescue.

And if you want something unironically good, go to mine and pick the 5 star ones, those have pretty pictures

There's no girl blogs. Just mountains and birds. And here I thought you had pretty pictures... of girls hidden away on TL :O

Anyway, good job on that climb! I made it to the top of nearby Licancabur (4 meters short of a 6000 peak). But I digress. You have no girl blog! And not much hope of writing one, given the references to Mrs. Opisska...

Thus: 0/5 for this self-promoting post (despite the pretty pictures).
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 17 2017 12:11 GMT
#11432
On January 17 2017 20:44 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 17:48 opisska wrote:
On January 17 2017 17:34 Acrofales wrote:
On January 17 2017 16:51 jrkirby wrote:
I've barely been on TL in the last 2 years or so. Are there any good girl blogs that I missed?

Doubt it. Shauni has been banned since forever and kushm4sta posts his blogs elsewhere.


Is fluffy_pylon more than 2 years ago? YokoKano is always there for the rescue.

And if you want something unironically good, go to mine and pick the 5 star ones, those have pretty pictures

There's no girl blogs. Just mountains and birds. And here I thought you had pretty pictures... of girls hidden away on TL :O

Anyway, good job on that climb! I made it to the top of nearby Licancabur (4 meters short of a 6000 peak). But I digress. You have no girl blog! And not much hope of writing one, given the references to Mrs. Opisska...

Thus: 0/5 for this self-promoting post (despite the pretty pictures).


Some of the birds are surely female!!

Yeah it was shameless but I hope that people don't take that too seriously, I don't really care that much about my blogging success and though that plugging myself is some mildly self-reflective humor.

I could actually make a somewhat interesting relationship blog related to Mrs. Opisska, but I think that I am still better off posting landscapes

PS: In 2012 I was on the base of Licancabur during a very frustrating jeep tour. That's what inspired me to find some similar but better accessible mountains in Argentina.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 17 2017 15:18 GMT
#11433
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Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
January 17 2017 15:39 GMT
#11434
On January 18 2017 00:18 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 16:59 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On January 17 2017 16:47 xM(Z wrote:
On January 17 2017 15:54 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On January 16 2017 16:38 xM(Z wrote:
watching hour long pornos for a 30 sec wank ... ; first world problem?.
imo(not really), sex doesn't happen in the brain; it happens in the genitalia area and in the spine.

if you're looking for meaning or context in a porno you're done for. any transposition of "material" from movies to real life = damage.

Edit: and yea, look at the dude that was living and dying by consent getting a hard on on women being tricked/bullied into submission.


If you are unable to understand the difference between fantasies and transposition then you really should not be on the internet. People who are unable to see a difference between those two usually are best in mental hospitals. Has your family come to get you yet?
the question is, why do you bite?; i'm known to deliver so, this goes like this:
- acknowledge that your particular fantasy is a choice(between other fantasies) and that no one forces you to make it;
- realize that you make that choice based on something real; something in your brain clicks and goes: yep, this is is, i'm getting excited.
- know that if the above doesn't happen you choose another fantasy and if there are none to trigger that response in the brain, you don't watch porn because it does nothing to you.

sure you can argue if it's a nature or nurture/culture based choice, but the fact of it being a preference is what makes it go beyond a fantasy, it's what makes it real in some way.
did i get it right so far?.


You bite based on options provided and what the culture deems good, bad, or unsavory, contextualized by your own biases responding to the rules stated by your culture.

For example: people who get turned on by cars do not get turned on by cars because their DNA understands what a car is and is turned on it. A person is turned on by cars because he lives in a society where cars exist, are acknowledged, and are given both a social worth and a social relevance.

Hence, how turned on you are is based solely on the social group you are in or attach yourself into. It is a dialogue based on what you believe the world to be, what your place is in that world, and what you want that placement in that world to be.

This is super baseline stuff. Its a bit embarrassing that I have to explain it to you, but I understand kids like you are so desperate to sound adult in the internet you'll just say whatever you think sounds edgy.




I may be miss interpreting your post because I am reading it out of context (I don't read XMZ posts, he is like JimmyjRaynor is in the sports threads and I can only handle one troll/moron where you can't tell which is which)

But I think turn on's have very little to our Culture. I think because it's in our heads and for the most part kept private and intimate the one thing many people will not care about culture.

I think it is a nature nurture discussion with the nurture crushing the nature. Like for nature there usually needs some nakedness and sex of some kind. But I think it's experiences that lead to turn ons. Either what made you have your first boner (or turn on for girls) Or some other event in child hood can make what people would consider normal turn ons or odd fetishes. I do think culture plays a roll in some ways. Like people love to be naughty in the porn. If culture was accepting of interracial you wouldn't see "black guy does white woman" as often.

It's interesting that often times I'll watch shit I would never want to do in real life, more then stuff I would actually want to do.


I agree.

XMZ said:
if you're looking for meaning or context in a porno you're done for. any transposition of "material" from movies to real life = damage.

Suggesting that porn having meaning and context being enjoyed by the viewer is that person trying to transpose the material into his real life. ie, if you watch something you obviously want to do that thing you watched.

I am telling him that imagination is not that limited, but that turn-ons are usually limited to what is around you. Can't have an astronaut fetish in the 1200s for example, since there are no astronauts. Can't have a Taylor Swift fetish in 1776, because Taylor Swift wasn't born yet.

There will be instinctual things--being straight, being gay, being a man, being a woman, being a man born as a woman, being a woman born as a man, etc... that sets up your initial sensors. But when you start getting specific--like "wife swap" or "gangbang" it is because you live in a society that has a stake in those ideals/fears. Both those fantasies, for example, are only kinky if you live in a society that expects monogamy to be the norm. If you live in a society where men have 5-6 wives each would gangbang videos be all that kinky if every household already has regular gangbangs?

It does reveal societal tensions; like your example of Black on White sex being considered a taboo, or Yellow Fever videos, or "Young Co-Ed" Videos, or Non-Consent Videos, etc... It presents a reality that we are supposed to be both okay with something happening even if we also are supposed to not be okay with those same things happening.

Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
January 17 2017 15:46 GMT
#11435
Is the difficulty of a 3 hours flight for a pilot the same of a 3 hours drive on a road without other cars to a driver?
Dating thread on TL LUL
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
January 17 2017 15:48 GMT
#11436
On January 18 2017 00:46 SoSexy wrote:
Is the difficulty of a 3 hours flight for a pilot the same of a 3 hours drive on a road without other cars to a driver?


idk the answer, but this is relevant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopilot
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
January 17 2017 17:25 GMT
#11437
wth are these site backgrounds? http://i.imgur.com/ZSY3u.gif and https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/136283360283590656/270966655708954624/Untitled.png

rofl :D
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18382 Posts
January 17 2017 17:34 GMT
#11438
On January 18 2017 00:46 SoSexy wrote:
Is the difficulty of a 3 hours flight for a pilot the same of a 3 hours drive on a road without other cars to a driver?

Presumably similar. Assuming the road is straight and flat. I expect the main challenge to pilots is staying awake (as it is on a 3 hour boooooooooring drive).
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18382 Posts
January 17 2017 17:35 GMT
#11439
On January 18 2017 02:25 esdf wrote:
wth are these site backgrounds? http://i.imgur.com/ZSY3u.gif and https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/136283360283590656/270966655708954624/Untitled.png

rofl :D

Wow. I don't have that. I did see the tank background at one point (can't remember why).
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 17 2017 18:00 GMT
#11440
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