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On January 15 2017 22:58 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2017 14:06 Uldridge wrote:
Because porn movies use everything that's cliché to cater to their audience. Want barnyard? Throw in a pair of overalls, a wild rag, a horse and some bales of hay. Want a chique setting? Have the people dress up fancy, with flashy jewelry and a house with the interior with polished marble floor and greek columns with a view on the pool and a white, slightly off center couch. Want outdoors? Pick a picnic blanket, picnic basket and perhaps use a tree from your environment and also have the girl have her hair in some form of tail wearing way too short shorts, preferably cut jeans where the buttcheeks slightly show as to initiate the first action of the scene.
They have no clue how to make movies, they just want sex, but try to dress it up a little bit. Unfortunately they can't do it very well. It's like trying to pull off some combination of clothes without actually knowing anything about what makes good combinations. Lies! Next thing you are going to tell me that the nerdy girls are not just wearing glasses and the mild are not just anyone over 30. Why would they spend time and money on sets and costumes when people just want to watch them bone?
People don't actually like watching sex--they enjoy the fantasy being projected at them.
It's the "could you imagine..." moment that most people already innately have, and the porno allows them to pretend.
Which is why it's super simplistic--because the audience already have a person in mind, the porno is just to make the experience of jacking off to that person more visceral and raw.
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I like to just watch sex and I don't care at all in what setting it is. I don't find anything imaginative with watching porn at all, it's literally displayed for you right there.
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On January 16 2017 03:36 Uldridge wrote:
I like to just watch sex and I don't care at all in what setting it is. I don't find anything imaginative with watching porn at all, it's literally displayed for you right there.
When you watch porn: How many people are involved? What sex? Who is on top? Who is penetrating? How many toys? Indoor or outdoor? Or do you not search and simply let "whatever is first available" come to you?
Because these are all things.
For example, I never accidentally watch animal porn.
I also don't really watch porn with penetration of males either Homosexual or Heterosexual.
I also don't watch porn where the film quality is low, too grainy makes it boring.
I also don't watch porn where the film quality is high, too clean and I start analyzing it.
There's a popular trend of "pure" or "home video" porn right now, an anti-imagination slant that tries to project porn as people just having sex with as little roleplaying as possible; very much occuring at the same time as identity politics became a bigger deal as people in these videos are usually white heterosexuals in order to project the idea of the white suburban experience of sex.
Its actually really fascinating when you start looking into it.
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I find porn to be very interesting too from an analytical viewpoint and sure I do have my preferences about what "kind" of porn I want to watch I guess, but the setting isn't that interesting to me, the people are more interesting in that regard. How do they convey the sex, how into it are they, how well is it performed. In that respect it can come very close to art imo. And if it's done well it's just amazing to watch and to masturbate to that. Sometimes I'm just too horny, however, and just want to rub one out on the fastest, easiest thing I find.
The pornindustry and everything that surrounds it is a very complex thing I think which is too underappreciated and undertalked because of the stigmas associated with it. There's also the very thin line of legality and whatnot that's far too often associated with it. Too many fringe fetishes, too many vague settings to know what went down prior to it, but it's definitely something extremely interesting.
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I sometimes think: "wow why is this so poorly written" before I realize it's porn. What's your favourite plot outline?
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Favourite as in so bad it's good or as in actually good?
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That question's definitely open to interpretation.
edit: but please be sure to state which it is.
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As for the so bad it's good (but not really) I'd go for the guy that goes to buy a house and he offers her money to have sex as an extra. First she refuses, but then she's like: "ok", after a very meager persuasion attempt.
And the best plot outline is just: here are 10 men, now you will have sex with them all at the same time, ahahaha. Or more generally, not hiding what you're viewing.
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People pay enough attention to discern a plot? It's like random blablabla. Whoops, I'm naked. Let's have sex. The blablabla Paty is completely interchangeable and only barely justifies whatever outfits they are getting out of asap.
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On January 16 2017 06:09 Uldridge wrote:
As for the so bad it's good (but not really) I'd go for the guy that goes to buy a house and he offers her money to have sex as an extra. First she refuses, but then she's like: "ok", after a very meager persuasion attempt.
And the best plot outline is just: here are 10 men, now you will have sex with them all at the same time, ahahaha. Or more generally, not hiding what you're viewing.
There is a scene from a german porn movie that was kind of a meme a few years back, which is pretty amazing.
Dude with a mask and girl are in a room with some hay and a fuse box.
Girl "This is the fuse box you are here about."
Dude:"Ok, and why is there hay in the corner?"
Girl "Hm, Why do you wear a mask"
Dude "Hm, suck my dick."
(Note: Suck my dick is in German not used in the figurative way that it is often used in in english. It has pretty much only the literal meaning)
Sadly, i have never seen more than that single scene from the movie, so i don't know if it holds up that promise of being a surrealist art piece that that scene implies.
But generally, i would disagree here. To me, an important part of porn is the plot. Not necessarily in the "What people actually say" part, and porn that gets too artsy and does too much plot and not enough fucking is also bad. But just random people fucking without any context isn't that titilating. A lot of sex happens in the brain imo, and having a good setup can make the porn more enjoyable.
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watching hour long pornos for a 30 sec wank ... ; first world problem?.
imo(not really), sex doesn't happen in the brain; it happens in the genitalia area and in the spine.
if you're looking for meaning or context in a porno you're done for. any transposition of "material" from movies to real life = damage.
Edit: and yea, look at the dude that was living and dying by consent getting a hard on on women being tricked/bullied into submission.
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Could you get someone locked up (in treatment) for eating themselves into oblivion like you can someone for being in a mental health state (suicidal) that makes them a threat to themselves?
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I definitely like it a bit more if there's a plot, kinda gives it some context.
On January 17 2017 08:53 GreenHorizons wrote:
Could you get someone locked up (in treatment) for eating themselves into oblivion like you can someone for being in a mental health state (suicidal) that makes them a threat to themselves?
I think you can lock up someone for a lot of reasons if they're dangerous to themselves, or at least I believe you can in Canada.
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On January 16 2017 16:38 xM(Z wrote:
watching hour long pornos for a 30 sec wank ... ; first world problem?.
imo(not really), sex doesn't happen in the brain; it happens in the genitalia area and in the spine.
if you're looking for meaning or context in a porno you're done for. any transposition of "material" from movies to real life = damage.
Edit: and yea, look at the dude that was living and dying by consent getting a hard on on women being tricked/bullied into submission.
If you are unable to understand the difference between fantasies and transposition then you really should not be on the internet. People who are unable to see a difference between those two usually are best in mental hospitals. Has your family come to get you yet?
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On January 17 2017 15:54 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2017 16:38 xM(Z wrote:
watching hour long pornos for a 30 sec wank ... ; first world problem?.
imo(not really), sex doesn't happen in the brain; it happens in the genitalia area and in the spine.
if you're looking for meaning or context in a porno you're done for. any transposition of "material" from movies to real life = damage.
Edit: and yea, look at the dude that was living and dying by consent getting a hard on on women being tricked/bullied into submission. If you are unable to understand the difference between fantasies and transposition then you really should not be on the internet. People who are unable to see a difference between those two usually are best in mental hospitals. Has your family come to get you yet? the question is, why do you bite?; i'm known to deliver so, this goes like this:
- acknowledge that your particular fantasy is a choice(between other fantasies) and that no one forces you to make it;
- realize that you make that choice based on something real; something in your brain clicks and goes: yep, this is is, i'm getting excited.
- know that if the above doesn't happen you choose another fantasy and if there are none to trigger that response in the brain, you don't watch porn because it does nothing to you.
sure you can argue if it's a nature or nurture/culture based choice, but the fact of it being a preference is what makes it go beyond a fantasy, it's what makes it real in some way.
did i get it right so far?.
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I've barely been on TL in the last 2 years or so. Are there any good girl blogs that I missed?
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On January 17 2017 16:47 xM(Z wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2017 15:54 Thieving Magpie wrote:On January 16 2017 16:38 xM(Z wrote:
watching hour long pornos for a 30 sec wank ... ; first world problem?.
imo(not really), sex doesn't happen in the brain; it happens in the genitalia area and in the spine.
if you're looking for meaning or context in a porno you're done for. any transposition of "material" from movies to real life = damage.
Edit: and yea, look at the dude that was living and dying by consent getting a hard on on women being tricked/bullied into submission. If you are unable to understand the difference between fantasies and transposition then you really should not be on the internet. People who are unable to see a difference between those two usually are best in mental hospitals. Has your family come to get you yet? the question is, why do you bite?; i'm known to deliver so, this goes like this: - acknowledge that your particular fantasy is a choice(between other fantasies) and that no one forces you to make it; - realize that you make that choice based on something real; something in your brain clicks and goes: yep, this is is, i'm getting excited. - know that if the above doesn't happen you choose another fantasy and if there are none to trigger that response in the brain, you don't watch porn because it does nothing to you. sure you can argue if it's a nature or nurture/culture based choice, but the fact of it being a preference is what makes it go beyond a fantasy, it's what makes it real in some way. did i get it right so far?.
You bite based on options provided and what the culture deems good, bad, or unsavory, contextualized by your own biases responding to the rules stated by your culture.
For example: people who get turned on by cars do not get turned on by cars because their DNA understands what a car is and is turned on it. A person is turned on by cars because he lives in a society where cars exist, are acknowledged, and are given both a social worth and a social relevance.
Hence, how turned on you are is based solely on the social group you are in or attach yourself into. It is a dialogue based on what you believe the world to be, what your place is in that world, and what you want that placement in that world to be.
This is super baseline stuff. Its a bit embarrassing that I have to explain it to you, but I understand kids like you are so desperate to sound adult in the internet you'll just say whatever you think sounds edgy.
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i'm working so i'll replay rarely, if ever, until the evening or a break.
i'll use your own words because it's easier: A person is turned on by cars because he lives in a society where cars exist, are acknowledged, and are given both a social worth and a social relevance. implies that the agent is missing and that the environment is making the choice for the individual while based solely on the social group you ... attach yourself into implies an agent that makes the choice based on something. so which is it?.
i can do(argue on) both but you need to validate and acknowledge them as options.
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