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But wouldnt that same logic work in the case of "violent/gory" media and murder?
i.e. violent video games would lead to murder, therefore we should ban those video games?
I think the distinction should be made between getting pleasure from "accomplishing" something like headshotting that snotnosed little shit who keeps screaming obscenities into the mic in his pre-pubescent screechvoice on Modern Warfare, and getting sexual pleasure from it. Those are two different beasts.
Most serial killers (and obviously rapists) get sexual pleasure from dominating and causing terror and humiliation in their victims, it's conceivable that they could be urged on by viewing violent material or depictions of sexual violence. I don't think it's a big enough concern that we should be toning down violence to pre-Easy Rider levels and depictions in media, but coarsening the culture and possibly giving inspiration to some whacko should be something we think about if we're going to write a book or make a movie that is incredibly, awfully, graphically violent and "disturbing."
There's nothing wrong with discretion. As long as its not enforced by a jackboot in the face.
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On June 08 2011 15:01 DeepElemBlues wrote:Show nested quote +
But wouldnt that same logic work in the case of "violent/gory" media and murder?
i.e. violent video games would lead to murder, therefore we should ban those video games?
... There's nothing wrong with discretion. As long as its not enforced by a jackboot in the face.
No, as long as the majority and you agree that the discretion is in order, and as long as the government gives you the chance to cooperate willingly before they fine or handcuff you, and only under the threat of shooting you if you don't consent to being handcuffed/fined, as long as it's not a jackboot in the face.
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Ugh censorship is the worst, can't say I'd ever watch this shit but that doesn't change anything.
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On June 08 2011 08:25 thekibk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 08:01 emythrel wrote:
Damn i don't remember a film being banned since The Exorcist...... this must be some heavy shit if it got banned in the UK... we have pretty liberal film ratings these days, films that were 18's when the were released 15 years ago are now 12's lol Lol, I got interested and did some research on what has been banned. There have been 11 bans in the United Kingdom: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banned_films#United_Kingdomonly Three Remained Banned: Visions of Ecstacy (for religious crimes) Mikey (A Child murders people) Grotesque (Japanese) I don't really care. I hate all forms of horror movies. But freedom of speech seems kinda important, even though this would inspire some fucked up shit. I watched Grotesque out of curiosity since I like these types of movies and I realized I can't stomach it the way I used to be able to only like a year or 2 ago, I feel pretty nauseous right now as a result. 
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No, as long as the majority and you agree that the discretion is in order, and as long as the government gives you the chance to cooperate willingly before they fine or handcuff you, and only under the threat of shooting you if you don't consent to being handcuffed/fined, as long as it's not a jackboot in the face.
That's a nice little fantasy you have there.
Be careful, Big Brother is always watching.
Right?
It's very selfish and entitled to think you should be able to do or say what you want and if people don't like it or, God forbid, don't want their children to know about it, well, they are just a bunch of fascists. Bravo, you've put out a work that degrades the humanity of the characters in the most disgusting ways you can think of! You are such a free spirit! If we don't approve, why, free speech is at risk!
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I actually skipped through the first one because it was so boring.
I'll probably skip through the second one aswell ^_^
That director is just a shitty film maker so needs to do weird stuff to get attention.
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On June 08 2011 15:43 DeepElemBlues wrote:Show nested quote +No, as long as the majority and you agree that the discretion is in order, and as long as the government gives you the chance to cooperate willingly before they fine or handcuff you, and only under the threat of shooting you if you don't consent to being handcuffed/fined, as long as it's not a jackboot in the face. That's a nice little fantasy you have there. Be careful, Big Brother is always watching. Right?
I don't understand. I described the way law enforcement works. What about it do you find fantastical? Big brother is a cooky sci-fi depiction of a very real idea. Giving the government unnecessary control over our lives is a good thing, right? Could you maybe be more elaborate?
It's very selfish and entitled to think you should be able to do or say what you want and if people don't like it or, God forbid, don't want their children to know about it, well, they are just a bunch of fascists. Bravo, you've put out a work that degrades the humanity of the characters in the most disgusting ways you can think of! You are such a free spirit! If we don't approve, why, free speech is at risk!
Free speech is not put at risk by you not approving, it's put at risk by you physically forcing people not to speak, which is more or less what you're suggesting. The people who made that movie are not free spirits, they're idiots. I never said otherwise and I'd appretiate it if you didn't simply invent things about me for you not to like.
The law's only reason for existing is to protect individual rights. Any action that does not violate the rights of others is a right, and to inhibit such actions by law is fascism. The production and even the sale of a disgusting dehumanizing movie does not inherently violate anyone's rights. If you don't like it being offered then you should refrain from going to the places where it's offered. People will not offer it in places where those uninterested in the offer don't frequent, and should be easy enough to avoid. You can control either your child's access to such things, or the way he/she interprets such things. Keep in mind I'm not telling you how to be a parent, I'm telling you how to not be a fascist.
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I'm totally going to watch this, first one was aweeesome. How can you claim it was boring? dude was stitching people together!!
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So the whole purpose of this movie is to be as disgusting as possible?
I am normaly against any kind of censorship since it normaly gets circumvented or gives
the shit promotion, but yes i can understand why they banned it and i can't realy disagree...
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banning movie is just s statement again the filmmakers,it doesnt prevent anyone from watching the movie obviously cuz of the internet.They are just adding to the publicity of the movie by banning it.Im sure a lot of people would had not even noticed that this kinda movie was coming. So as a conclusion its a stupid thing to do to ban it 
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On June 08 2011 09:50 WniO wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 09:12 Elzar wrote:On June 08 2011 04:45 iCanada wrote:On June 08 2011 04:42 zakmaa wrote:
I've some friends who watched it and described it as being "weird." Honestly, I don't think it's all that fucked up. The concept of the movie seems somewhat interesting, maybe I'll watch it. Imo it doesn't seem to be near as bad as any of the Saw films. You mean they rape a girl with a barbed wire dildo in Saw? I must have missed those scenes. No you were just watching the wrong movie. Check out Seven, where Kevin Spacey forced this one guy to fuck a hooker with a strapon knife. Maybe someone should inform the BBFC to ban this movie. they talked about that scene they didnt show it or glorify it
What about Antichrist where the woman jerks off her husband and he comes blood?
Sure, they dont glorify it, but are they doing this in Human Centipede II?
I mean the guy in this movie is clearly one sick bastard, it's not like they portray him as an hero or am i wrong there?
On June 08 2011 11:49 Gummy wrote:
This isn't censorship. This is consumer protection. Protecting people from wasting their mone yon watching what is clearly a ridiculous and disgusting movie.
Because we're all dumb and can't decide for ourselfs what we spend our money on.
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imo, im pretty sure the people who came up with the idea to create this movie had this kind of controversy in mind.
why not ban it? youre giving them what they wanted =)
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On June 08 2011 16:47 Revolt wrote:
imo, im pretty sure the people who came up with the idea to create this movie had this kind of controversy in mind.
why not ban it? youre giving them what they wanted =)
Of course they had this kind of controversy in mind, but they certainly didnt want the movie to get banned. You can't earn money with movies that are banned everywhere.
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On June 08 2011 16:39 Elzar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 09:50 WniO wrote:On June 08 2011 09:12 Elzar wrote:On June 08 2011 04:45 iCanada wrote:On June 08 2011 04:42 zakmaa wrote:
I've some friends who watched it and described it as being "weird." Honestly, I don't think it's all that fucked up. The concept of the movie seems somewhat interesting, maybe I'll watch it. Imo it doesn't seem to be near as bad as any of the Saw films. You mean they rape a girl with a barbed wire dildo in Saw? I must have missed those scenes. No you were just watching the wrong movie. Check out Seven, where Kevin Spacey forced this one guy to fuck a hooker with a strapon knife. Maybe someone should inform the BBFC to ban this movie. they talked about that scene they didnt show it or glorify it What about Antichrist where the woman jerks off her husband and he comes blood? Sure, they dont glorify it, but are they doing this in Human Centipede II? I mean the guy in this movie is clearly one sick bastard, it's not like they portray him as an hero or am i wrong there? Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 11:49 Gummy wrote:
This isn't censorship. This is consumer protection. Protecting people from wasting their mone yon watching what is clearly a ridiculous and disgusting movie. Because we're all dumb and can't decide for ourselfs what we spend our money on.
Anybody who paid money to watch a line of people shit in each other's mouths is probably too dumb to decide what to spend their money on.
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On June 08 2011 16:51 EmeraldSparks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 16:39 Elzar wrote:On June 08 2011 09:50 WniO wrote:On June 08 2011 09:12 Elzar wrote:On June 08 2011 04:45 iCanada wrote:On June 08 2011 04:42 zakmaa wrote:
I've some friends who watched it and described it as being "weird." Honestly, I don't think it's all that fucked up. The concept of the movie seems somewhat interesting, maybe I'll watch it. Imo it doesn't seem to be near as bad as any of the Saw films. You mean they rape a girl with a barbed wire dildo in Saw? I must have missed those scenes. No you were just watching the wrong movie. Check out Seven, where Kevin Spacey forced this one guy to fuck a hooker with a strapon knife. Maybe someone should inform the BBFC to ban this movie. they talked about that scene they didnt show it or glorify it What about Antichrist where the woman jerks off her husband and he comes blood? Sure, they dont glorify it, but are they doing this in Human Centipede II? I mean the guy in this movie is clearly one sick bastard, it's not like they portray him as an hero or am i wrong there? On June 08 2011 11:49 Gummy wrote:
This isn't censorship. This is consumer protection. Protecting people from wasting their mone yon watching what is clearly a ridiculous and disgusting movie. Because we're all dumb and can't decide for ourselfs what we spend our money on. Anybody who paid money to watch a line of people shit in each other's mouths is probably too dumb to decide what to spend their money on.
Oh so you must be the guy who decides what people should like.
Pleased to meet you.
Am i allowed to smoke a cigarette now or is that in bad taste because it's unhealthy?
Oh wait, i'm an adult so i can do whatever the fuck i want without being patronized like a child. =)
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On June 08 2011 16:51 EmeraldSparks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 16:39 Elzar wrote:On June 08 2011 09:50 WniO wrote:On June 08 2011 09:12 Elzar wrote:On June 08 2011 04:45 iCanada wrote:On June 08 2011 04:42 zakmaa wrote:
I've some friends who watched it and described it as being "weird." Honestly, I don't think it's all that fucked up. The concept of the movie seems somewhat interesting, maybe I'll watch it. Imo it doesn't seem to be near as bad as any of the Saw films. You mean they rape a girl with a barbed wire dildo in Saw? I must have missed those scenes. No you were just watching the wrong movie. Check out Seven, where Kevin Spacey forced this one guy to fuck a hooker with a strapon knife. Maybe someone should inform the BBFC to ban this movie. they talked about that scene they didnt show it or glorify it What about Antichrist where the woman jerks off her husband and he comes blood? Sure, they dont glorify it, but are they doing this in Human Centipede II? I mean the guy in this movie is clearly one sick bastard, it's not like they portray him as an hero or am i wrong there? On June 08 2011 11:49 Gummy wrote:
This isn't censorship. This is consumer protection. Protecting people from wasting their mone yon watching what is clearly a ridiculous and disgusting movie. Because we're all dumb and can't decide for ourselfs what we spend our money on. Anybody who paid money to watch a line of people shit in each other's mouths is probably too dumb to decide what to spend their money on.
They should pay for their stupidity. The alternative is that someone else pays to protect them from the results of their own stupidity, and often without the consent of either the payer or the 'benefactor'.
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What would be the results of their own "stupidity"?
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On June 08 2011 16:56 Elzar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 16:51 EmeraldSparks wrote:On June 08 2011 16:39 Elzar wrote:On June 08 2011 09:50 WniO wrote:On June 08 2011 09:12 Elzar wrote:On June 08 2011 04:45 iCanada wrote:On June 08 2011 04:42 zakmaa wrote:
I've some friends who watched it and described it as being "weird." Honestly, I don't think it's all that fucked up. The concept of the movie seems somewhat interesting, maybe I'll watch it. Imo it doesn't seem to be near as bad as any of the Saw films. You mean they rape a girl with a barbed wire dildo in Saw? I must have missed those scenes. No you were just watching the wrong movie. Check out Seven, where Kevin Spacey forced this one guy to fuck a hooker with a strapon knife. Maybe someone should inform the BBFC to ban this movie. they talked about that scene they didnt show it or glorify it What about Antichrist where the woman jerks off her husband and he comes blood? Sure, they dont glorify it, but are they doing this in Human Centipede II? I mean the guy in this movie is clearly one sick bastard, it's not like they portray him as an hero or am i wrong there? On June 08 2011 11:49 Gummy wrote:
This isn't censorship. This is consumer protection. Protecting people from wasting their mone yon watching what is clearly a ridiculous and disgusting movie. Because we're all dumb and can't decide for ourselfs what we spend our money on. Anybody who paid money to watch a line of people shit in each other's mouths is probably too dumb to decide what to spend their money on. Oh so you must be the guy who decides what people should like. Pleased to meet you. Am i allowed to smoke a cigarette now or is that in bad taste because it's unhealthy? Oh wait, i'm an adult so i can do whatever the fuck i want without being patronized like a child. =)
Yep, I'm the guy, and I decided that a movie whose premise is having a persons mouth sewn to another persons ass so that they're forced to eat their shit eternally is a movie that people shouldn't like.
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