EPTThat's like saying your thought process is already decided and all the thoughts you'll have in life are already pre-determined.
//tx
What would happen if you fought your clone? - Page 12
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Tschis
Brazil1511 Posts
That's like saying your thought process is already decided and all the thoughts you'll have in life are already pre-determined. //tx | ||
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Butterz
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Earll
Norway847 Posts
On April 11 2011 20:11 Tschis wrote: Just because it's a clone it doesn't mean you'll have the same thought process. That's like saying your thought process is already decided and all the thoughts you'll have in life are already pre-determined. //tx Yes you will, if you do not then it is not an excact clone. Your thoughts are not pre-determined, excactly what they are decided by is obviously somewhat hard to pinpoint but it is probably mainly influenced by your past (the clone has the excact same past\memory) your enviorment (clone has excact same enviorment) And genetics (clone has excact same genetics.) D=? | ||
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Gummy
United States2180 Posts
Edit: Saw revision in OP. Is there randomness allowed in your closed system? If there is perfect symmetry, then nobody can decisively "win." Whatever one person does is done by the other and whatever is done to one person is done to the other. | ||
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-Exalt-
United States972 Posts
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Swwww
Switzerland812 Posts
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gulati
United States2241 Posts
On April 11 2011 20:11 Tschis wrote: Just because it's a clone it doesn't mean you'll have the same thought process. That's like saying your thought process is already decided and all the thoughts you'll have in life are already pre-determined. //tx This is all hypothetical, so I won't come out as an elitist and say you are "wrong". However, I think that is incorrect; IF a person/place/object were to be an EXACT replica and clone (once again, referring to my previous point, there is no such possibility in the known universe as an exact 100% clone/replica), then both persons/places/objects would exhibit identical characteristics, based on their genetic makeup and/or physical makeup, thus offsetting each other perfectly. Solution? They would never exist amongst one another. I know this is an annoying answer to swallow, since it kills braincrafting, but I think it is the only actual answer; other theories seem to forget the fact that these are exact replications, and from my knowledge, there is no such existance of two perfectly identical objects in the universe which can combat each other. | ||
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myfriendspro
United Kingdom51 Posts
On April 10 2011 06:30 iNcontroL wrote: I'd win. This would also be the outcome of a fight between me vs my clone. Geoff would win. | ||
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Swwww
Switzerland812 Posts
On April 11 2011 20:18 EternaL_9 wrote: I'de convince him to do me sexual favors. Why? Well, masturbation isn't weird and that is PRETTY much having sex with yourself. Why would having sex with your clone be weird? G to the a y - You would be having sex with another man just because he is a clone of you doesn't mean he is not a separate entity from you | ||
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Cheeseburgered
United States716 Posts
he'd never see it coming and would be unable to react to such an attack | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
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underscore
252 Posts
We grab the Lasergun from the guard and shoot him in the face. The scientiest tries to scream for help but we smack him with the gun. We'd fist bump and say "clone power". We use the scientist as a hostage and escape. After hiding in the underground of post apocalyptic New York City we get approached by rebels that are fighting against the evil clone men. As we are the only ones that know where the clone facilty is we go back in and blow the facility up by pressing the self-destruction button. We also rescue two superhot clone chicks. Outside while the facilty explodes in the background we make love to these sweet girls. Fistbump. Clone power. | ||
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Maxwell3
United States88 Posts
On April 11 2011 20:16 Earll wrote: Yes you will, if you do not then it is not an excact clone. Your thoughts are not pre-determined, excactly what they are decided by is obviously somewhat hard to pinpoint but it is probably mainly influenced by your past (the clone has the excact same past\memory) your enviorment (clone has excact same enviorment) And genetics (clone has excact same genetics.) D=? You can't just do whatever you want in a fight... your actions are based off your environment. You've just been watching too many movies. | ||
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Earll
Norway847 Posts
On April 11 2011 20:50 Maxwell3 wrote: You can't just do whatever you want in a fight... your actions are based off your environment. You've just been watching too many movies. How is me watching too many movies at all related to you not reading the OP? If you did you would realize the hypothetical enviorment is perfectly symetrical and excactly the same for both clones. | ||
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Ottoxlol
735 Posts
On April 11 2011 20:18 EternaL_9 wrote: I'de convince him to do me sexual favors. Why? Well, masturbation isn't weird and that is PRETTY much having sex with yourself. Why would having sex with your clone be weird? Because my clone is a guy? It's not the same for me, maybe I'm too homophobic. Imagine if you could would you use your mouth for pleasuring yourself? I had a decent discussion about this with my friends, its still a cock in your mouth, i wouldn't care if its mine. It's the same with other holes too. | ||
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pileopoop
Canada317 Posts
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sTromSK
Slovakia77 Posts
 but i agree with those with materialistic and stochastic stance: from my understanding of quantum effects.. they usually net each other out but if the clones fought for a long enough time - they would have some impact (to mental processes and physical execution). But this also depends on the physics of the "perfectly homogenic and same environment" in which the clones fight ).. But good question.. thanks OP. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On April 10 2011 06:25 Xanbatou wrote: So I was recently having a discussion with one of my friends. It started off as what you would do if you were in a small room with a clone with no artifacts except for one light source in the very center of the room. We started talking about fighting your clone and then we started arguing about how the fight would play out: Since you are perfect clones of each other (i.e. same physical and mental attributes), you would have the same exact thought processes. My friend argued that the fight would be somewhat dynamic and, although you would have the same fighting style, you would be doing different moves at different times and therefore you would be reacting differently. I argued that, since you have the same thought processes, you would both choose to not only open the fight with the same exact move, but you would also open the fight at the same exact time. You would then both see the same move and respond in exactly the same way and you would end up mirroring each others moves. I thought this was an interesting question and I was wondering what TL would think. EDIT: To be more specific, the room in question is a perfectly symmetric room in every aspect. In fact, to make it even more symmetric, maybe instead of a single light source at the center of the room, the entire ceiling actually emits some low level light. Basically, the room is designed so that two people in the room will experience the same exact stimuli. EDIT2: By clone, I don't mean the modern conventional definition. I just mean some entity that is exactly the same as you are both mentally and physically. Also, this clone is created the instant you enter the room, so it has all your memories up until that point. There's nothing that says that a clone would have the exact same thought process as what it was a clone of. Your personality and other mental attributes are shaped second to second with every interaction and experience you make - a clone would rapidly change to be a mentally different person that the original person. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
So whoever leaves the room is more evil than before. Other option would be we decide to work together and do a fusion and find the evil person responsibel for this and punish him *-*. | ||
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