It's kind of a tough spot like Bush in Iraq. It becomes political propaganda on both sides, meaning herr and over there. If the media puts out a bunch of stories about losing the city it will be repeated on a loop, regardless if we went and took the city back the next day the next week or the next year.

xDaunt

United States17988 Posts

May 19 2015 22:45 GMT

#5888

On May 20 2015 07:10 Yoav wrote:

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I think Daunt is faulting the media for not carrying these stories as prominently, not Blue for not linking them.

"Fault" isn't really the correct word, though the focus is on StealthBlue. I have found his selective posting of articles to be curious for years. He has no trouble finding obscure Syrian shit all over the place, but when something truly major like the fall of Ramadi happens, there's nothing.

URfavHO

United States514 Posts

May 19 2015 22:53 GMT

#5889

On May 20 2015 07:45 xDaunt wrote:

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There isn't much reason to post the front page of BBC or wherever. I'm pretty sure most people don't get the majority of their news from a video game forum.

AssyrianKing

Australia2117 Posts

May 19 2015 23:15 GMT

#5890

If Assad loses, I fear Syria is doomed

Eliezar

United States481 Posts

May 20 2015 00:01 GMT

#5891

On May 20 2015 07:45 xDaunt wrote:

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His sources are typically excessively partisan. I don't know if there is much nonpartisan media for this war.

Assad seems to have gone on a PR offensive trying to paint Syria as Christian and being attacked by Muslims, Arab and being attacked by armies backed by western powers, and modern while being attacked by armies backed by Islamic terrorists backed by Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Israel.

I'm finding all over the internet people posting absurdly fake (or scripted) pro Assad propaganda. No, seeing Assad walking out a gate where there is a crowd of a couple hundred people bunched into a perfect square and then getting super excited to see him doesn't make me think Assad is loved by his people, it makes me think "wow, what has he done to have scripted PR like this?"

In the end...we were better off with Saddam, Qaddafi, and Assad than we will be with whatever is left in those countries, but post WW2 the west really botched world relations and things have been going downhill ever since.

Also, countries that don't make alliances with their neighbors end up in bad positions. That is part of Assad's problem.

{CC}StealthBlue

United States41117 Posts

May 20 2015 03:45 GMT

#5892

Silvanel

Poland4768 Posts

May 20 2015 05:20 GMT

#5893

Assad is or at least was loved by some of his people. There is a reason while this war is still going on, and he is still in power. He is ganged by the whole world with only Iran/Russia to help him and the fight still continiues. He would be long gone if not for the trust his people have in him. Look what happend to Ghadaffi.

Eliezar

United States481 Posts

May 20 2015 08:25 GMT

#5894

On May 20 2015 14:20 Silvanel wrote:
Assad is or at least was loved by some of his people. There is a reason while this war is still going on, and he is still in power. He is ganged by the whole world with only Iran/Russia to help him and the fight still continiues. He would be long gone if not for the trust his people have in him. Look what happend to Ghadaffi.

Assad would have already ended up like Ghadaffi if the US was bombing his military daily. Also don't forget he was also captured because the US hit his convoy with a missile after he was more less defeated and he was on the run if I am remembering right.

Silvanel

Poland4768 Posts

May 20 2015 12:04 GMT

#5895

Yeah, instead US is shipping tons of weapons to his enemies (which ends mostly in hands of Al Nusra and ISIS) i would say he has harder time than Ghadaffi not easier.

{CC}StealthBlue

United States41117 Posts

May 20 2015 13:20 GMT

#5896

Reports of ISIL pushing into the center of Palmyra. Parts of the SAA retreating but have emptied the Muesem beforehand.

Eliezar

United States481 Posts

May 20 2015 14:07 GMT

#5897

On May 20 2015 21:04 Silvanel wrote:
Yeah, instead US is shipping tons of weapons to his enemies (which ends mostly in hands of Al Nusra and ISIS) i would say he has harder time than Ghadaffi not easier.

Had the US/foreign involvement been the same as in Libya then Assad would have lasted 6 months at most.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_Libya

URfavHO

United States514 Posts

May 20 2015 14:46 GMT

#5898

This is probably one of the most hilarious videos I have ever watched. The sad thing is that I'm pretty sure there are many American Christian institutions that have analogous beliefs.

{CC}StealthBlue

United States41117 Posts

May 20 2015 14:52 GMT

#5899

Director General of museums and monuments of Syria for Reuters: hundreds of statues moved from Palmyra to safe place. We ask the international community to take action.

Yoav

United States1874 Posts

May 20 2015 16:25 GMT

#5900

On May 20 2015 23:46 URfavHO wrote:
This is probably one of the most hilarious videos I have ever watched. The sad thing is that I'm pretty sure there are many American Christian institutions that have analogous beliefs.

Uh, that think those who don't convert to Christianity should pay a tax or be killed? No, not a lot of American Christian institutions that think that. Even your crazy, off-the-charts fundamentalists don't go there. Maybe the KKK, but at the point your stooping to terrorist groups, you've gone pretty far beyond what anyone actually thinks. The Christian right might not be your cup of tea, but they don't advocate killing infidels.

If you mean that there are US Christians who think that the intense sexual objectification of women is a form of oppression in our society, sure. I'm one of them.