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Please guys, stay on topic.

This thread is about the situation in Iraq and Syria.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43677 Posts
May 19 2015 21:06 GMT
#5881
I guess we can be happy that the chemical weapons aren't still there for the taking.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15363 Posts
May 19 2015 21:19 GMT
#5882
Please, whoever is willing to, protect Palmyra from ISIS.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43677 Posts
May 19 2015 21:27 GMT
#5883
On May 20 2015 06:19 zatic wrote:
Please, whoever is willing to, protect Palmyra from ISIS.

Any specific reason? Because the whole conflict thus far has been a demolition in a museum.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 19 2015 21:36 GMT
#5884
So why no stories on the fall of Ramadi and the virtual loss of Anbar?
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
May 19 2015 22:06 GMT
#5885
On May 20 2015 06:36 xDaunt wrote:
So why no stories on the fall of Ramadi and the virtual loss of Anbar?


If you know of this, please link sources. CCStealthBlue isnt officially responsible, he's just really good at keeping us updated.
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
May 19 2015 22:10 GMT
#5886
On May 20 2015 07:06 Catch]22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 06:36 xDaunt wrote:
So why no stories on the fall of Ramadi and the virtual loss of Anbar?


If you know of this, please link sources. CCStealthBlue isnt officially responsible, he's just really good at keeping us updated.


I think Daunt is faulting the media for not carrying these stories as prominently, not Blue for not linking them.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23714 Posts
May 19 2015 22:29 GMT
#5887
On May 20 2015 07:10 Yoav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 07:06 Catch]22 wrote:
On May 20 2015 06:36 xDaunt wrote:
So why no stories on the fall of Ramadi and the virtual loss of Anbar?


If you know of this, please link sources. CCStealthBlue isnt officially responsible, he's just really good at keeping us updated.


I think Daunt is faulting the media for not carrying these stories as prominently, not Blue for not linking them.


It's kind of a tough spot like Bush in Iraq. It becomes political propaganda on both sides, meaning herr and over there. If the media puts out a bunch of stories about losing the city it will be repeated on a loop, regardless if we went and took the city back the next day the next week or the next year.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 19 2015 22:45 GMT
#5888
On May 20 2015 07:10 Yoav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 07:06 Catch]22 wrote:
On May 20 2015 06:36 xDaunt wrote:
So why no stories on the fall of Ramadi and the virtual loss of Anbar?


If you know of this, please link sources. CCStealthBlue isnt officially responsible, he's just really good at keeping us updated.


I think Daunt is faulting the media for not carrying these stories as prominently, not Blue for not linking them.

"Fault" isn't really the correct word, though the focus is on StealthBlue. I have found his selective posting of articles to be curious for years. He has no trouble finding obscure Syrian shit all over the place, but when something truly major like the fall of Ramadi happens, there's nothing.
URfavHO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States514 Posts
May 19 2015 22:53 GMT
#5889
On May 20 2015 07:45 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 07:10 Yoav wrote:
On May 20 2015 07:06 Catch]22 wrote:
On May 20 2015 06:36 xDaunt wrote:
So why no stories on the fall of Ramadi and the virtual loss of Anbar?


If you know of this, please link sources. CCStealthBlue isnt officially responsible, he's just really good at keeping us updated.


I think Daunt is faulting the media for not carrying these stories as prominently, not Blue for not linking them.

"Fault" isn't really the correct word, though the focus is on StealthBlue. I have found his selective posting of articles to be curious for years. He has no trouble finding obscure Syrian shit all over the place, but when something truly major like the fall of Ramadi happens, there's nothing.

There isn't much reason to post the front page of BBC or wherever. I'm pretty sure most people don't get the majority of their news from a video game forum.
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2116 Posts
May 19 2015 23:15 GMT
#5890
If Assad loses, I fear Syria is doomed
John 15:13
Eliezar
Profile Joined May 2004
United States481 Posts
May 20 2015 00:01 GMT
#5891
On May 20 2015 07:45 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 07:10 Yoav wrote:
On May 20 2015 07:06 Catch]22 wrote:
On May 20 2015 06:36 xDaunt wrote:
So why no stories on the fall of Ramadi and the virtual loss of Anbar?


If you know of this, please link sources. CCStealthBlue isnt officially responsible, he's just really good at keeping us updated.


I think Daunt is faulting the media for not carrying these stories as prominently, not Blue for not linking them.

"Fault" isn't really the correct word, though the focus is on StealthBlue. I have found his selective posting of articles to be curious for years. He has no trouble finding obscure Syrian shit all over the place, but when something truly major like the fall of Ramadi happens, there's nothing.


His sources are typically excessively partisan. I don't know if there is much nonpartisan media for this war.

Assad seems to have gone on a PR offensive trying to paint Syria as Christian and being attacked by Muslims, Arab and being attacked by armies backed by western powers, and modern while being attacked by armies backed by Islamic terrorists backed by Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Israel.

I'm finding all over the internet people posting absurdly fake (or scripted) pro Assad propaganda. No, seeing Assad walking out a gate where there is a crowd of a couple hundred people bunched into a perfect square and then getting super excited to see him doesn't make me think Assad is loved by his people, it makes me think "wow, what has he done to have scripted PR like this?"

In the end...we were better off with Saddam, Qaddafi, and Assad than we will be with whatever is left in those countries, but post WW2 the west really botched world relations and things have been going downhill ever since.

Also, countries that don't make alliances with their neighbors end up in bad positions. That is part of Assad's problem.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 20 2015 03:45 GMT
#5892
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4742 Posts
May 20 2015 05:20 GMT
#5893
Assad is or at least was loved by some of his people. There is a reason while this war is still going on, and he is still in power. He is ganged by the whole world with only Iran/Russia to help him and the fight still continiues. He would be long gone if not for the trust his people have in him. Look what happend to Ghadaffi.
Pathetic Greta hater.
Eliezar
Profile Joined May 2004
United States481 Posts
May 20 2015 08:25 GMT
#5894
On May 20 2015 14:20 Silvanel wrote:
Assad is or at least was loved by some of his people. There is a reason while this war is still going on, and he is still in power. He is ganged by the whole world with only Iran/Russia to help him and the fight still continiues. He would be long gone if not for the trust his people have in him. Look what happend to Ghadaffi.


Assad would have already ended up like Ghadaffi if the US was bombing his military daily. Also don't forget he was also captured because the US hit his convoy with a missile after he was more less defeated and he was on the run if I am remembering right.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4742 Posts
May 20 2015 12:04 GMT
#5895
Yeah, instead US is shipping tons of weapons to his enemies (which ends mostly in hands of Al Nusra and ISIS) i would say he has harder time than Ghadaffi not easier.
Pathetic Greta hater.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 20 2015 13:20 GMT
#5896
Reports of ISIL pushing into the center of Palmyra. Parts of the SAA retreating but have emptied the Muesem beforehand.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Eliezar
Profile Joined May 2004
United States481 Posts
May 20 2015 14:07 GMT
#5897
On May 20 2015 21:04 Silvanel wrote:
Yeah, instead US is shipping tons of weapons to his enemies (which ends mostly in hands of Al Nusra and ISIS) i would say he has harder time than Ghadaffi not easier.


Had the US/foreign involvement been the same as in Libya then Assad would have lasted 6 months at most.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_Libya



URfavHO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States514 Posts
May 20 2015 14:46 GMT
#5898
This is probably one of the most hilarious videos I have ever watched. The sad thing is that I'm pretty sure there are many American Christian institutions that have analogous beliefs.

{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 20 2015 14:52 GMT
#5899




Director General of museums and monuments of Syria for Reuters: hundreds of statues moved from Palmyra to safe place. We ask the international community to take action.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
May 20 2015 16:25 GMT
#5900
On May 20 2015 23:46 URfavHO wrote:
This is probably one of the most hilarious videos I have ever watched. The sad thing is that I'm pretty sure there are many American Christian institutions that have analogous beliefs.


Uh, that think those who don't convert to Christianity should pay a tax or be killed? No, not a lot of American Christian institutions that think that. Even your crazy, off-the-charts fundamentalists don't go there. Maybe the KKK, but at the point your stooping to terrorist groups, you've gone pretty far beyond what anyone actually thinks. The Christian right might not be your cup of tea, but they don't advocate killing infidels.

If you mean that there are US Christians who think that the intense sexual objectification of women is a form of oppression in our society, sure. I'm one of them.
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