Iraq & Syrian Civil Wars - Page 108
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publicenemies
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publicenemies
458 Posts
On September 02 2013 18:26 publicenemies wrote: Have anyone beside the US confirms that there are usage of chemical weapons over there? If it's only the US, then I'm pretty sure those are the people that said there were WMD over in Iraq.. User was warned for this post | ||
Rosie
Russian Federation16 Posts
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Rosie
Russian Federation16 Posts
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/503037/20130902/syrian-electronic-army-hacks-marine-website-hacked.htm ![]() | ||
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Croatia7457 Posts
On September 02 2013 20:37 Steveling wrote: Syria's electronic war bureau is sick. Well, expected if they trained in russia. http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/503037/20130902/syrian-electronic-army-hacks-marine-website-hacked.htm ![]() It is only sick if it is not true. | ||
Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
Also these photos have all being circulating separately in the internet in the last few days, it's not some syrians dressed up as us soldiers to fake them. SEA just collected them all to prove their point. | ||
heliusx
United States2306 Posts
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iMOOrtal
Canada144 Posts
On September 02 2013 18:26 publicenemies wrote: Have anyone beside the US confirms that there are usage of chemical weapons over there? If it's only the US, then I'm pretty sure these are the people that said there were WMD over in Iraq.. If you consider NATO "anyone else" then yes, they have. | ||
nunez
Norway4003 Posts
On September 02 2013 17:14 Ghanburighan wrote: That's a good example, boys and girls, why you don't look for news in random youtube videos (referring to promiseme's post). - they are full of flat out verifiable lies. For example consider the claim that "the previous UN inspection team found that rebels used chemical weapons" (02.35) There was no earlier UN inspection team, and there is no UN report that the rebels used chemical weapons. And this is easily verified as you can check for UN reports. I stopped soon after when he was offering a conspiracy theory regarding the FED. Go read verified news sources which fact check their claims. The reason why this guy isn't more well known is not that he's shunned by main stream media or whatnot, it's because he is full of shit. there was a previous inspection team back in april and early may which, according to one investigator had "strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof" that the rebels used sarin gas. i have posted this 5-6 times and it was reported on in msm as well. | ||
Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
On September 02 2013 23:14 iMOOrtal wrote: If you consider NATO "anyone else" then yes, they have. German intelligence, french intelligence, british intelligence and soon the UN investigators will have confirmed it too. This is similar to yugoslavia, not iraq. | ||
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On September 02 2013 23:21 nunez wrote: there was a previous inspection team back in april and early may which, according to one investigator had "strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof" that the rebels used sarin gas. i have posted this 5-6 times and it was reported on in msm as well. Do you mean the Carlo del Ponte utterance? That's a) not a report, b) not a UN inspection. | ||
Mindflow
Korea (South)320 Posts
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Pika Chu
Romania2510 Posts
On September 02 2013 20:37 Steveling wrote: Syria's electronic war bureau is sick. Well, expected if they trained in russia. http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/503037/20130902/syrian-electronic-army-hacks-marine-website-hacked.htm ![]() How do you know they've been trained in Russia? And it's not that much, they just defaced a website. To be honest, before SEA i never imagined syria has a decent cyber war department. But if they really do, and it's not just some kids pretending, then they could deal way more damage. It may be the first conflict in which the cyberwarfare is used. | ||
nunez
Norway4003 Posts
On September 02 2013 23:30 Ghanburighan wrote: Do you mean the Carlo del Ponte utterance? That's a) not a report, b) not a UN inspection. you are correct. a United Nations independent panel investigating human rights violations. it's report was inconclusive on the matter of who used chemical weapons. it does however state that: "...there remains no military solution. The conflict will end only through a comprehensive, inclusive political process. The international community must prioritize the de-escalation of the war and work within the framework of the final communiqueé of the Action Group for Syria." commision page | ||
zeo
Serbia6298 Posts
On September 02 2013 23:52 Pika Chu wrote: How do you know they've been trained in Russia? And it's not that much, they just defaced a website. To be honest, before SEA i never imagined syria has a decent cyber war department. But if they really do, and it's not just some kids pretending, then they could deal way more damage. It may be the first conflict in which the cyberwarfare is used. It would be really interesting to see the public reaction in America if the wars they are involved in start 'coming home'. Imagine if someone just took out the internet in NA alltogether. Very few countries can reach mainland America with troops so electronic warfare would be the only real offence most countries could put together in the face of NATO aggresion. | ||
Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
On September 02 2013 23:52 Pika Chu wrote: How do you know they've been trained in Russia? And it's not that much, they just defaced a website. To be honest, before SEA i never imagined syria has a decent cyber war department. But if they really do, and it's not just some kids pretending, then they could deal way more damage. It may be the first conflict in which the cyberwarfare is used. Well they could be some kids pretending, though I'm assuming they aren't since syria-russia military bonds are very strong. Cyberwarfare definitely is on the table though, the russians have just brought their best anti-intelligence ship in east mediterranean, so we'll see how that turns out. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/02/syria-russia-spy-ship-us-military | ||
HeartOfTheSwarm
Niue585 Posts
Iranian ex president says Syria government behind chemical attack sourceFormer Iranian President Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani said the Syrian government, a strong ally of Tehran, had carried out chemical weapons attacks against its own people, the semi-official Iranian Labour News Agency reported on Sunday. "The people have been the target of chemical attacks by their own government and now they must also wait for an attack by foreigners," Rafsanjani said, according to ILNA. "The people of Syria have seen much damage in these two years." This was apparently denied later on by the officials in Iran Lavrov brushes aside Western evidence suggesting that Syrian regime was behind chemical attack sourceThe AP new agency reports on Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov's latest rejection of western intelligence against the Assad regime: Evidence of alleged chemical weapons use by the Syrian regime presented to Moscow by the US and its allies is "absolutely unconvincing", Russia's foreign minister said. Lavrov said: there was nothing specific there, no geographic coordinates, no names, no proof that the tests were carried out by the professionals." He did not describe the tests further. (AJE notes: although the US secretary of State, John Kerry, did say the US had field and blood evidence that sarin was used in the attack on August 21) Lavrov brushed aside Western evidence of an alleged Syrian regime role. Russia, along with China and Iran, has staunchly backed Assad throughout the conflict. "What our American, British and French partners showed us in the past and have showed just recently is absolutely unconvincing," Lavrov said at Russia's top diplomatic school. "And when you ask for more detailed proof they say all of this is classified so we cannot show this to you." | ||
nunez
Norway4003 Posts
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TheOneWhoKnocks
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Now you have Syria, where an actual war is taking place, chemical weapons have been used, over 100,000 people killed, and nobody even wants to launch a few rockets from miles away. Not even Great Britain will join the US, won't even lend a plane to strike. France is the only supporter? My, how quickly and how high the pendulum swings, how fickle populations are. We swing from one extreme to another. | ||
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