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Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-17 02:33:55
July 12 2011 23:07 GMT
#241
I really hope they do a good job with Bane! Having read the Batman comics, everyone remembers Bane as the man who broke Batman (Literally, he beats Batman to a pulp and breaks his back) Which lead to some weird post-Batman drama involving Azreal and Robin and a slew of other DC characters who take on the role of Batman as Bruce Wayne recovers. I really hope the movie trilogy doesn't end with the death/paralysis of Bruce Way, but still shows Bane as the threatening villain he is.

Edit, also, personally, I like the gravelly Batman voice. But, then again, I listen to Death Metal, so there you go.
Teching to hive too quickly isn't just a risk: it's an ultrarisk
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
July 12 2011 23:40 GMT
#242
Is there a trailer out yet? I wanna see it. I'm so excited for this...
darkness overpowering
randomness
Profile Joined April 2010
United States38 Posts
July 12 2011 23:43 GMT
#243
I agree with those that liked Batman Begins more than the Dark Knight although I liked both. The Dark Knight just has too many completely unbelievable things (driving a bus in and out the side of a bank wall without being noticed, planting huge amounts of explosives all over a hospital and on two ferry boats without being noticed, actually knowing how he would be caught and preparing an incredibly unlikely string of things to happen, etc.). Plus (and people will hate me for this) I thought Ledger did a good job but I think people just loved the way that character was written--extreme confidence, doesn't care at all what others think, no conscious. I think a few others could have played the role and it would have gotten the same reaction about how amazing it was.
With all that being said, they were both really interesting and entertaining and I'm really looking forward to the third one.
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keeblur
Profile Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
July 12 2011 23:45 GMT
#244
The official poster was revealed, think it looks pretty good.

[image loading]

Not really sure what it suggests though.
Isn't it ironic and selfish to say that God made man in his image, when God was made in man's image?
Mechwarrior
Profile Joined April 2011
United States76 Posts
July 12 2011 23:50 GMT
#245
Anne Hathaway as Catwoman? Hmm... That's interesting.

Still, I can't wait for this movie... It's going to be sick.
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
July 12 2011 23:53 GMT
#246
On July 13 2011 08:45 keeblur wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
The official poster was revealed, think it looks pretty good.

[image loading]

Not really sure what it suggests though
.


Reminds me of inception. Think we'll go into Batman's dreams?
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
July 12 2011 23:57 GMT
#247
On July 13 2011 01:27 OrchidThief wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 22:03 Jayjay54 wrote:
On July 12 2011 21:29 Spitfire wrote:
Fingers crossed they come up with a great conclusion to the story arc.

Loved the ending for TDK, gives me chills everytime. Especially when Gordon says "so we'll hunt him" and you see the cops chasing after Batman with their sniffer dogs.

As others have said though, film 3 is usually the let-down.


this is christopher nolan though. he's not gonna care about usual hollywood crap and will find a fine conclusion.

I'm extremely sceptical about anne as catwoman...

But we gotta trust nolan here. he never disappoints. he's the best. and not a sellout


His movies has been almost textbook hollywood endings so far. Twists and/or happy endings. He did great jobs with the two prior movies, and I'm sure the third is gonna be great as well, but it's hollywood right on the spot.

I'm disappointed about the whole Robin thing, I think they could include Robin as some kind of "sidekick" without it being tacky. Robin is a major character of the Batman universe and should be allowed to play a role.


dunno, inception, prestige and memento weren't exactly hollywood endings. even dark knight was not a 'real' hollywood ending concerning batman. in batman begins + Show Spoiler +
he doesn't get the girl
. compare to e.g. spider man.

and i feel he's not gonna do pure happy ending as the conclusion
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 00:13:35
July 12 2011 23:58 GMT
#248
On July 13 2011 08:43 randomness wrote:
Plus (and people will hate me for this) I thought Ledger did a good job but I think people just loved the way that character was written--extreme confidence, doesn't care at all what others think, no conscious. I think a few others could have played the role and it would have gotten the same reaction about how amazing it was.

lol this makes no sense. The actor shouldn't get any credit because the character is already interesting enough? It's his unique interpretation of the joker that got him so many fans. Those qualities you described are present in almost every villain. Ledger just made it more real.

I really enjoyed dark knight, but like others have said I liked batman begins more simply because the dark knight was trying to accomplish way too many things. DK would've been way better if they hadn't had the two face bit. That part just seemed rushed and added on as an after-thought, causing the movie to seem way too bloated. Two face is a really intriguing character by himself, and I thought aaron eckhart would've really shown the complexity/depth of of him if he had more scenes or simply fleshed him out in a completely different story. If DK would've ended with a conclusion stressing how the joker basically "proved his point" by corrupting harvey dent, and made the next movie about two face, it would've allowed DK to just focus solely on the joker and make for a smooth transition into a third movie.
Kingsp4de20
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States716 Posts
July 13 2011 00:06 GMT
#249
On March 20 2011 20:03 CookieMaker wrote:
O hell yes...... if it can be half as good as the dark knight it'll be a great movie


Yea it is definitly going to be hard to live up to the Dark Night, but from what I've read in the OP is sounds like its gonna be pretty good. Cant wait!
OrchidThief
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark2298 Posts
July 13 2011 00:54 GMT
#250
On July 13 2011 08:57 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 01:27 OrchidThief wrote:
On July 12 2011 22:03 Jayjay54 wrote:
On July 12 2011 21:29 Spitfire wrote:
Fingers crossed they come up with a great conclusion to the story arc.

Loved the ending for TDK, gives me chills everytime. Especially when Gordon says "so we'll hunt him" and you see the cops chasing after Batman with their sniffer dogs.

As others have said though, film 3 is usually the let-down.


this is christopher nolan though. he's not gonna care about usual hollywood crap and will find a fine conclusion.

I'm extremely sceptical about anne as catwoman...

But we gotta trust nolan here. he never disappoints. he's the best. and not a sellout


His movies has been almost textbook hollywood endings so far. Twists and/or happy endings. He did great jobs with the two prior movies, and I'm sure the third is gonna be great as well, but it's hollywood right on the spot.

I'm disappointed about the whole Robin thing, I think they could include Robin as some kind of "sidekick" without it being tacky. Robin is a major character of the Batman universe and should be allowed to play a role.


dunno, inception, prestige and memento weren't exactly hollywood endings. even dark knight was not a 'real' hollywood ending concerning batman. in batman begins + Show Spoiler +
he doesn't get the girl
. compare to e.g. spider man.

and i feel he's not gonna do pure happy ending as the conclusion


In spiderman he didn't really get the girl until the end either though because of his responsibility as a protector of the city and all that. Inception had the main character succesfully make it home to his children, succeed in his mission and even pulled out the guy who was bleeding for the whole movie. Memento was a "surprise twist"-movie, in my book in the same style as i.e. Saw or Se7en. Very very hollywood. The prestige was sort of similar in the whole twist thing.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
July 13 2011 01:01 GMT
#251
It's got all the right ingredients; Kickass ensemble of actors, awesome director, 2 brilliant prequels and their writers and a huge budget. I will be very surprised if they somehow manage to fuck this up. I'm very looking forward to the conclusion of Nolan's Batman series.
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happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
July 13 2011 01:06 GMT
#252
On July 13 2011 09:54 OrchidThief wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 08:57 Jayjay54 wrote:
On July 13 2011 01:27 OrchidThief wrote:
On July 12 2011 22:03 Jayjay54 wrote:
On July 12 2011 21:29 Spitfire wrote:
Fingers crossed they come up with a great conclusion to the story arc.

Loved the ending for TDK, gives me chills everytime. Especially when Gordon says "so we'll hunt him" and you see the cops chasing after Batman with their sniffer dogs.

As others have said though, film 3 is usually the let-down.


this is christopher nolan though. he's not gonna care about usual hollywood crap and will find a fine conclusion.

I'm extremely sceptical about anne as catwoman...

But we gotta trust nolan here. he never disappoints. he's the best. and not a sellout


His movies has been almost textbook hollywood endings so far. Twists and/or happy endings. He did great jobs with the two prior movies, and I'm sure the third is gonna be great as well, but it's hollywood right on the spot.

I'm disappointed about the whole Robin thing, I think they could include Robin as some kind of "sidekick" without it being tacky. Robin is a major character of the Batman universe and should be allowed to play a role.


dunno, inception, prestige and memento weren't exactly hollywood endings. even dark knight was not a 'real' hollywood ending concerning batman. in batman begins + Show Spoiler +
he doesn't get the girl
. compare to e.g. spider man.

and i feel he's not gonna do pure happy ending as the conclusion


In spiderman he didn't really get the girl until the end either though because of his responsibility as a protector of the city and all that. Inception had the main character succesfully make it home to his children, succeed in his mission and even pulled out the guy who was bleeding for the whole movie. Memento was a "surprise twist"-movie, in my book in the same style as i.e. Saw or Se7en. Very very hollywood. The prestige was sort of similar in the whole twist thing.


Very hollywood? I would say most movies and books and stories have a bittersweet ending or a twist, depending on what kind of story it is. Tragedies really aren't that common in any storytelling genre.

Usually the term "hollywood ending" means a perfect ending where everything is concluded, and Nolan's movies have never done that.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 01:44:45
July 13 2011 01:44 GMT
#253
Teaser trailer description

+ Show Spoiler +
Trailer opens with studio logos set on top of the blue flame from Dark Knight.

Start panning up some buildings, cut to screen card. EVERY HERO HAS A JOURNAY.

Cuts to a shot from "Begins" with Bruce walking up to that Village when he's looking for Ra's Al Ghul.

Screen Card: EVERY HERO HAS AN END

Ra's voice over: "If you make yourself more than just a man. If you devout yourself to be ideal. And you become something else entirely. A legend Mr. Wayne... A LEGEND!"

Screen Card: THE EPIC CONCLUSION

Cut to Gordon in a hospital bed laying on his side. Looks to be in serious pain. Has a breathing mask on. He's talking to someone.

Gordon: "We were in this together, then you were gone... Now this Evil rises. The Batman... HAS to come back." (All this is said in a very raspy voice, in much pain.)

Bruce/Batman (its not shown who he's talking to, so don't know in which form Bruce is visiting him in. My guess would be as Bruce Wayne): "What if he doesn't exist anymore?"

This part is the hardest to understand in the entire trailer. I listened to it at least 10 times but the score is over powering here and Gordon is having trouble talking. It sounds like if says "Humor me" while trying to laugh. I might be wrong here, full disclosure.

During this quick talk we're shown a shot of the bat cycle when it drives up the ramp from "Dark Knight," Gordon destroying the Bat Signal all cut in with the Hospital. As well as super fast flashes of Bane's face.

Pan up crumbling buildings to reveal the teaser poster, the camera zooms to the white opening and on an all white screen the title appears. The score reaches a fever pitch before turning over to The chanting from the website.

THE DARK KNIGHT RISES

Fades to black and then we see Batman backing away from something, then Bane enters from the left side of the screen. Very quick shot, then the trailer is done.
Syracuse
Profile Joined March 2011
United States31 Posts
July 13 2011 03:39 GMT
#254
After reading through this I feel obliged to post that I'm a Nicholson fan. Maybe I'm just too old

Poster looks nice and without really knowing anything about bane it sounds like it has quite a bit of potential. I'm leery about the casting of catwoman, but really I haven't heard any names pop up in the thread that really jump out at me as a "catwoman" other than Halle Berry, but that's for different reasons ^^
Petninja
Profile Joined June 2011
United States159 Posts
July 13 2011 03:46 GMT
#255
On March 20 2011 20:05 TheKanAry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 20:03 se7en247 wrote:
On March 20 2011 19:53 gongryong wrote:
Release: July 20, 2100


It's gonna be awesome. But do we really have to wait 89 years to see it? xD




Well, do you want a quality movie, or one that got rushed out ahead of it's time, before roaches cost 2 food?


Hey, it worked for Duke Nukem!
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 03:51:35
July 13 2011 03:47 GMT
#256
On July 13 2011 08:58 EpiK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 08:43 randomness wrote:
Plus (and people will hate me for this) I thought Ledger did a good job but I think people just loved the way that character was written--extreme confidence, doesn't care at all what others think, no conscious. I think a few others could have played the role and it would have gotten the same reaction about how amazing it was.

lol this makes no sense. The actor shouldn't get any credit because the character is already interesting enough? It's his unique interpretation of the joker that got him so many fans. Those qualities you described are present in almost every villain. Ledger just made it more real.

I really enjoyed dark knight, but like others have said I liked batman begins more simply because the dark knight was trying to accomplish way too many things. DK would've been way better if they hadn't had the two face bit. That part just seemed rushed and added on as an after-thought, causing the movie to seem way too bloated. Two face is a really intriguing character by himself, and I thought aaron eckhart would've really shown the complexity/depth of of him if he had more scenes or simply fleshed him out in a completely different story. If DK would've ended with a conclusion stressing how the joker basically "proved his point" by corrupting harvey dent, and made the next movie about two face, it would've allowed DK to just focus solely on the joker and make for a smooth transition into a third movie.


Totally agree. Two-Face could have been a complete movie on its own. They should have had the creation of 2 face at the end as a teaser, and then base another movie on Two-Face.

Although I'm very excited for Catwoman. I think Anne Hathaway will do an excellent job. Many people underestimated Heath Ledger, and he made an excellent Joker.

EDIT: Now that I think of it. If they make it that 2-face doesn't actually die, but rather escapes Gotham and goes on a rampage, that would make an good movie. make him appear mid-way through a movie as the mastermind of something.
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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
July 13 2011 03:59 GMT
#257
On July 13 2011 12:47 GinDo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 08:58 EpiK wrote:
On July 13 2011 08:43 randomness wrote:
Plus (and people will hate me for this) I thought Ledger did a good job but I think people just loved the way that character was written--extreme confidence, doesn't care at all what others think, no conscious. I think a few others could have played the role and it would have gotten the same reaction about how amazing it was.

lol this makes no sense. The actor shouldn't get any credit because the character is already interesting enough? It's his unique interpretation of the joker that got him so many fans. Those qualities you described are present in almost every villain. Ledger just made it more real.

I really enjoyed dark knight, but like others have said I liked batman begins more simply because the dark knight was trying to accomplish way too many things. DK would've been way better if they hadn't had the two face bit. That part just seemed rushed and added on as an after-thought, causing the movie to seem way too bloated. Two face is a really intriguing character by himself, and I thought aaron eckhart would've really shown the complexity/depth of of him if he had more scenes or simply fleshed him out in a completely different story. If DK would've ended with a conclusion stressing how the joker basically "proved his point" by corrupting harvey dent, and made the next movie about two face, it would've allowed DK to just focus solely on the joker and make for a smooth transition into a third movie.


Totally agree. Two-Face could have been a complete movie on its own. They should have had the creation of 2 face at the end as a teaser, and then base another movie on Two-Face.

Although I'm very excited for Catwoman. I think Anne Hathaway will do an excellent job. Many people underestimated Heath Ledger, and he made an excellent Joker.

EDIT: Now that I think of it. If they make it that 2-face doesn't actually die, but rather escapes Gotham and goes on a rampage, that would make an good movie. make him appear mid-way through a movie as the mastermind of something.

sadly I don't think they recast Eckbert so probably not.. I too, thought itd be a great concept/opportunity to have let Two-Face survive and make the third movie primarily about him : P oh well, wasted opportunity..
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Twiggs
Profile Joined January 2011
United States600 Posts
July 13 2011 04:00 GMT
#258
The ONLY movie Im looking forward to in the upcoming year. But how will it top the Dark Knight. Nolan has his work cut out for him.
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zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
July 13 2011 04:14 GMT
#259
They WON'T recast Aaron Eckhart because he and Nolan confirmed that Two-Face is not in the next movie.
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
July 13 2011 04:23 GMT
#260
I'm looking forward to this one but they have a lot to live up to. I don't quite see how Catwomen can fit into a scene similar to the first two movies. It seems like she wouldn't quite have those dark, unfantasized elements. But maybe I just don't know her character well enough.

I'm also glad Nolan is not buying into 3D. 3D seems too gimmicky for me, and it can be a bit disorienting sometimes.
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