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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.

Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true.
Dimagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1004 Posts
March 15 2011 00:03 GMT
#2461
On March 15 2011 09:02 hugman wrote:
They're saying it's 8 mSv / h!!
That is not good


That would be way above 3 times per year, they have to mean uSv
naim
Profile Joined February 2011
41 Posts
March 15 2011 00:04 GMT
#2462
On March 15 2011 08:52 dkim wrote:
hey I got into the hugest argument with a facebook friend about this. so she goes off saying how she doesn't feel sorry for japan after things that japanese people did to chinese and how they have not made any official apologies for it.
I was outraged, I am not even japanese, I am a korean. and for one, koreans have more reasons to hate japanese to begin with, but at the end of the day, Japan 80 years ago is nothing like japan today. Different rule, different attitude, different nation. How can some people be that dumb to hold grudges against an evolved entity and be able to say such things at the worst timing possible?

Just try to ignore dumb people until we can heat water with arrogance and stupidity.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
March 15 2011 00:04 GMT
#2463
On March 15 2011 09:02 Ingruz wrote:
BREAKING NEWS: Water level rises to cover 1.2 m of No. 2 reactor's fuel rods: TEPCO

If the level of the water rises it means that there is no major breach in the container?

It means they pump more than what is going out, either through leaks or as steam. If there's a breach and the steam can escape, lowering pressure, it will become easier to pump the water in.

So no, it doesn't mean that.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 00:06:34
March 15 2011 00:05 GMT
#2464
On March 15 2011 09:03 Dimagus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 09:02 hugman wrote:
They're saying it's 8 mSv / h!!
That is not good


That would be way above 3 times per year, they have to mean uSv

No, they said 8127 µSv / h
That is over 320 times more than the max exposure rate for radiological personnel (as a steady dose in their work environment)
Dimagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1004 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 00:06:24
March 15 2011 00:05 GMT
#2465
Edit - whoa major quote/reply fail

What the english translator is saying is 8000 micro-Sv which has to mean uSv yes.
sqrt
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1210 Posts
March 15 2011 00:05 GMT
#2466
On March 15 2011 09:03 Dimagus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 09:02 hugman wrote:
They're saying it's 8 mSv / h!!
That is not good


That would be way above 3 times per year, they have to mean uSv


No, it's mSv, they themselves stated the level was above 3 times per year, watch the conference.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nhk-world-tv
@
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 15 2011 00:05 GMT
#2467
Finnish news says they're planning on raising the level of the Fukushima nuclear situation from 4 to 5 or 6 o_O

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Nuclear_Event_Scale
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hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 00:08:22
March 15 2011 00:06 GMT
#2468
Pressure reduced from 300 kPa to normal atmospheric pressure.. Aka it's breached.

source: NHK

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nhk-world-tv
Razith
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada431 Posts
March 15 2011 00:08 GMT
#2469
On March 15 2011 09:06 hifriend wrote:
Pressure reduced from 300 kPa to normal athmospheric pressure.. Aka it's breached.


Please link sources for us to follow up on!
Desti
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany138 Posts
March 15 2011 00:09 GMT
#2470
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nhk-world-tv
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
March 15 2011 00:09 GMT
#2471
On March 15 2011 09:08 Razith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 09:06 hifriend wrote:
Pressure reduced from 300 kPa to normal athmospheric pressure.. Aka it's breached.


Please link sources for us to follow up on!


They said "from three to one"
But he's right
On both accounts
RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
March 15 2011 00:09 GMT
#2472
On March 15 2011 09:03 wishbones wrote:
please don't shoot me for asking, ive been clicking the new pages on and off but i am just curious what happens if the worst happens. Is there a nuclear explosion, a regular explosion, nature disturbed by nuclear stuff? what happens?

I guess what i am asking for, is what can happen.

It's all theoretical, according to wikipedia nobody really knows exactly what would happen in the event of a meltdown, but it's probably that if the containment dome is breached and the fuel rods fuse together, it would explode and scatter radioactive material all over Japan, and possibly all the way to the west coast of the USA.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 00:10:22
March 15 2011 00:10 GMT
#2473
3mSv/h would mean you get 3 times the dosis radiation in 1 hour that you would usually get in 1 year
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Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
March 15 2011 00:11 GMT
#2474
On March 15 2011 09:09 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 09:08 Razith wrote:
On March 15 2011 09:06 hifriend wrote:
Pressure reduced from 300 kPa to normal athmospheric pressure.. Aka it's breached.


Please link sources for us to follow up on!


They said "from three to one"
But he's right
On both accounts


so the reactors has cracked and radiation is getting out....
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Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
March 15 2011 00:12 GMT
#2475
BREAKING NEWS: Radiation at Fukushima plant briefly hits 8,217 micro sievert per hour: TEPCO (09:05)
BREAKING NEWS: TEPCO detects radiation of 8,217 micro sievert per hour, 8 times annual limit (09:03)
Dimagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1004 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 00:13:09
March 15 2011 00:12 GMT
#2476
Whether the reporter can get the units right or not, an 8 hour shift nets you 24 years of radiation. Still not a good prospect.

Or if it's now 8x instead of 3x... 64 years
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
March 15 2011 00:13 GMT
#2477
I have to admit that the technicians who are working in the central to fix all this mess are amazing. Those guys might (?) be doomed and they are still working.

fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
March 15 2011 00:13 GMT
#2478
I interpreted it as the pressure vessel being breached, not the surrounding containment vessel.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
March 15 2011 00:14 GMT
#2479
Come on guys...

microsievert = µSv = 10^-6 Sv

millisievert = mSv = 10^-3 Sv
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 15 2011 00:15 GMT
#2480
On March 15 2011 09:13 Boblion wrote:
I have to admit that the technicians who are working in the central to fix all this mess are amazing. Those guys might (?) be doomed and they are still working.


They indeed are most probably doomed.
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