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ixi.genocide
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States981 Posts
February 19 2011 09:52 GMT
#321
ok, I'll conced teh point that charging a criminal for a more serious offense and reducing it to a more appropriate charge is common and the hype over that unjustice isn't justified but just because it happens 100 times a day doesn't make it the right way... While I am not a law student or lawyer you don't have to be one to know when something is done with the right intentions in the wrong way.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
February 19 2011 09:53 GMT
#322
Yeah jailtime sounds really really harsh but imagine if it was your kid in the video.. At least he could've blurred the faces..
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sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
February 19 2011 10:00 GMT
#323
His cellmate is gonna ask him what he's in for.

and he's gonna answer "A stupid joke, 20 years. Might be out in ten with good behaviour."
really?
VTArlock
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1763 Posts
February 19 2011 10:01 GMT
#324
Meh, this is retarted... 20 years?? I love how the newscaster was like "he's chain and shackled"...because thats all so very necessary. Give him a fine, slap him on the wrist and send him on his way. The only thing he did that was wrong was not censor the kids faces.
Why?
snpnx
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany454 Posts
February 19 2011 10:02 GMT
#325
On February 19 2011 18:53 DwD wrote:
Yeah jailtime sounds really really harsh but imagine if it was your kid in the video.. At least he could've blurred the faces..

Even if it was my kid I would do with a harsh fine.
20 Years for a prank that didn't even really involve the kids is just stupid.
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StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
February 19 2011 10:04 GMT
#326
Even if he did sing it in front of the kids how can he actually be punished with a prison sentence? To even consider that shows a fucking broken community. Bible thumping morons with no knowledge of how the internet works.
PanzerKing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States483 Posts
February 19 2011 10:04 GMT
#327
On February 19 2011 19:01 VTArlock wrote:
Meh, this is retarted... 20 years?? I love how the newscaster was like "he's chain and shackled"...because thats all so very necessary. Give him a fine, slap him on the wrist and send him on his way. The only thing he did that was wrong was not censor the kids faces.


Hypothetical - I take a picture of your 5-year-old niece, put a word bubble next to her mouth with the caption "I love big hairy cocks" and post it on every telephone pole in the county where you live. The girl's mother calls you up, crying her eyes out, and her father is in a blinding rage. Would you be ok with giving me a fine and a slap on the wrist? Now imagine I did that to twenty other kids. So, twenty counts of the same offense, and you're still ok with a fine and a slap on the wrist?
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RedTerror
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
New Zealand742 Posts
February 19 2011 10:09 GMT
#328
To get 20 years in New Zealand you basically have to go on a premeditated killing spree
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
February 19 2011 10:10 GMT
#329
wtf 20 years? Ppl get away with less for murder, it's ridiculous even to consider
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snpnx
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany454 Posts
February 19 2011 10:20 GMT
#330
On February 19 2011 19:04 PanzerKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2011 19:01 VTArlock wrote:
Meh, this is retarted... 20 years?? I love how the newscaster was like "he's chain and shackled"...because thats all so very necessary. Give him a fine, slap him on the wrist and send him on his way. The only thing he did that was wrong was not censor the kids faces.


Hypothetical - I take a picture of your 5-year-old niece, put a word bubble next to her mouth with the caption "I love big hairy cocks" and post it on every telephone pole in the county where you live. The girl's mother calls you up, crying her eyes out, and her father is in a blinding rage. Would you be ok with giving me a fine and a slap on the wrist? Now imagine I did that to twenty other kids. So, twenty counts of the same offense, and you're still ok with a fine and a slap on the wrist?

You'd really want someone that does that to go to prison for 20 years?
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ixi.genocide
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States981 Posts
February 19 2011 10:20 GMT
#331
On February 19 2011 19:04 PanzerKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2011 19:01 VTArlock wrote:
Meh, this is retarted... 20 years?? I love how the newscaster was like "he's chain and shackled"...because thats all so very necessary. Give him a fine, slap him on the wrist and send him on his way. The only thing he did that was wrong was not censor the kids faces.


Hypothetical - I take a picture of your 5-year-old niece, put a word bubble next to her mouth with the caption "I love big hairy cocks" and post it on every telephone pole in the county where you live. The girl's mother calls you up, crying her eyes out, and her father is in a blinding rage. Would you be ok with giving me a fine and a slap on the wrist? Now imagine I did that to twenty other kids. So, twenty counts of the same offense, and you're still ok with a fine and a slap on the wrist?


Yes, even though you are causing duress to these people, it is a bad moment in their life... Maybe a day- a fine and community service would be more than enough punishment for making a joke video that w/ lack of forsight was probably seen as harmless.
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
February 19 2011 10:33 GMT
#332
I dont get this.
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PanzerKing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States483 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-19 10:39:13
February 19 2011 10:34 GMT
#333
On February 19 2011 19:20 ixi.genocide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2011 19:04 PanzerKing wrote:
On February 19 2011 19:01 VTArlock wrote:
Meh, this is retarted... 20 years?? I love how the newscaster was like "he's chain and shackled"...because thats all so very necessary. Give him a fine, slap him on the wrist and send him on his way. The only thing he did that was wrong was not censor the kids faces.


Hypothetical - I take a picture of your 5-year-old niece, put a word bubble next to her mouth with the caption "I love big hairy cocks" and post it on every telephone pole in the county where you live. The girl's mother calls you up, crying her eyes out, and her father is in a blinding rage. Would you be ok with giving me a fine and a slap on the wrist? Now imagine I did that to twenty other kids. So, twenty counts of the same offense, and you're still ok with a fine and a slap on the wrist?


Yes, even though you are causing duress to these people, it is a bad moment in their life... Maybe a day- a fine and community service would be more than enough punishment for making a joke video that w/ lack of forsight was probably seen as harmless.


People get community service for getting caught with a joint or shoplifting a pair of underwear from Duane Reede on their second or third offense. Twenty or more counts of what I just described doesn't strike you as more severe?

The reason this is so much more serious is that there's a victim here. The first thing I was told when I started at the DA's office was "you never make an offer (at arraignments) when there's a victim." Why is that the policy? Because we don't want them coming to us later on and saying "How could you let that guy go with a violation and community service? Do you have any idea what happened to my family? I had people laughing at me in the streets, people looking away from me at the grocery store, my mother called me on the phone and said that she heard my daughter was in a sex tape, I was walking down the street and someone yelled that my daughter was a little whore and probably liked being in that video, my daughter won't leave the house because older kids are laughing at her and calling her names at school, etc."

Basically, they don't know how seriously these families were impacted. Their office needs time to investigate and create a resolution that's agreeable for all the parties and that serves the interests of justice. So yes, charging a heavy felony at arraignments is perfectly reasonable. Maybe some of these families were seriously traumatized. Maybe they weren't really that affected and they're just mugging it up for the press. The point is that the DA's office has the flexibility to react accordingly, but you bet your ass that, at arraignments, they're going to err on the side of caution.

EDIT: Going to bed, can't continue the discussion any longer, but thanks for keeping it civil :-)
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ixi.genocide
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States981 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-19 10:40:01
February 19 2011 10:39 GMT
#334
Yes, distribution of a sex tape can hinder someones life... While I couldn't watch the video so I don't know the severity of his crime you can't say that there was a victim in the face of anonymity. With 20 or so kids in the class, as long as one child wasn't targeted it isn't victimizing a child. I agree that what he did was wrong and deserves some punishment but to even suggest a title of child abuse and upwards of 20 years in jail is absurd. This video is 1 pissed off parent away from just being a bad video that youtube takes down instead of a serious charge and probable jail time.

EDIT: Good night, i enjoy civil debates
inermis
Profile Joined September 2010
353 Posts
February 19 2011 10:39 GMT
#335
such things are possible only in the USA, thats the american dream for you ! being sued and endangered with 20 years jail time for a stupid prank that didnt even involve these kids directly, seriously, how retarded some ppl can be ? theres gotta be some limit to this...
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Kong John
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark1020 Posts
February 19 2011 10:47 GMT
#336
Well after thinking about it, i'm quite sure this is an invasion of privacy. So a punishment should be guaranteed. 20 years is obviously way over the top but it seems to be an american custom to overcharge. Anyways, it all depends on the judges view on the children's privacy.

All in all it seems fair to me that he gets punished, but imo it shouldn't be more than a fine or community service. Saying this has anything to do with pedophilia is utter nonsense.
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limonovich
Profile Joined September 2010
England226 Posts
February 19 2011 11:03 GMT
#337
only in america
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Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
February 19 2011 11:08 GMT
#338
Here is Sweden people arrested for homicide don't get that much...?

Sure the man should have been forced to pay a small sum and do a month of civil work or something, but 20 years?! Sick

America can be so stupid sometimes. (No offense I've lived there when i was younger)
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Avaloch
Profile Joined August 2010
241 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-19 11:11:41
February 19 2011 11:09 GMT
#339
Well, the prosecutors are asking for 20 years, that doesn't mean he will be getting 20 years. Besides, I think that the court needs to have a benchmark and this is just an opportune way to do it.

Edit: But 20 years is really a bit too much if the kids were not abused.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
February 19 2011 11:18 GMT
#340
Wow, this is so ridiculous
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