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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 18 2023 03:44 GMT
#4861
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9037 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-11-18 13:16:40
November 18 2023 13:15 GMT
#4862
Successful launch and hot staging. Lost the booster on the return (Looked amazing) and currently lost telemetry of Starship.

E: Lost S25 to FTS (Flight Termination System)
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2746 Posts
November 18 2023 13:28 GMT
#4863
Really cool launch I would guess they are happy at SpaceX.
waaaaaaaaaaaooooow - Felicia, SPF2:T
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 18 2023 15:20 GMT
#4864
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-11-18 16:34:20
November 18 2023 16:33 GMT
#4865
Launch Pad looks good.


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
November 18 2023 19:00 GMT
#4866
That was about as successful as I think you could've hoped for.
The size of the flame off the exhaust is insane given just how big that rocket is.

Booster got as far as it needed to, and second stage ran into issues at the end. Hopefully they have enough telemetry to fix it for next time.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9037 Posts
November 18 2023 20:35 GMT
#4867
I think it could have completed the mission and crashed on target. The booster being lost was probably due to the hot stage on top being warped or something. It looked like that was where the leak and subsequent explosion came from.

Starship I'm not sure what went wrong. They lost telemetry signals and then it asploded. I wonder if that was because they lost the signal.

Will look forward to hearing what went wrong in the coming months. They probably won't launch until March anyway so we have time to theorize.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22190 Posts
November 18 2023 20:39 GMT
#4868
they said it was lost to FTS which is the explosives on board used to terminate a rocket so yes they lost the signal and blew it up rather then risk it crashing into something

I assume its standard procedure to terminate a rocket if they lose signal.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9037 Posts
November 18 2023 20:42 GMT
#4869
My question or thought was more along the line of why/how did they lose signal. I get why they did it, just talking aloud.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 18 2023 22:57 GMT
#4870

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
November 19 2023 02:05 GMT
#4871
My guess is that with where the engines are, the center of mass of the booster is fairly low in the rocket. It's near the engines, even with the remaining propellant still in the tanks.

When it spins, the Methane in the upper tank which is light (it has roughly 3.5:1 Oxygen:methane by weight) gets flung outwards via centrifugal force, even with the little bit of ullage pressure from the three enginesand the engines get starved. As the rotation stops and the rocket starts the boostback, the liquid methane in the tank (guesstimate around 50 tons left) smashes into the bulkhead and blows the rocket apart with a fluid hammer.
BradTheBaneling
Profile Joined October 2018
38 Posts
November 19 2023 08:10 GMT
#4872
At least they fixed the issue with 20-30% of the engines cutting out. Pretty big step for a second launch.

Not too sure how they’re going to resolve the heat tile issue which appears to already be pretty out of control. I’m not certain what the point of Starship is if it fails the reusability aspect.

[image loading]

{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 19 2023 20:38 GMT
#4873
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9037 Posts
November 20 2023 23:46 GMT
#4874
Saw musk saying another launch is possible in 3-4 weeks but we all know that ain't happening.
Has there been any info on the space plane?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 23 2023 16:41 GMT
#4875
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-11-29 21:01:08
November 29 2023 21:00 GMT
#4876
two days late.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 13 2023 16:20 GMT
#4877
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-14 20:40:31
December 14 2023 18:34 GMT
#4878
Lex Fridman just landed one hell of an interview. Most of the topics are Blue Origin.



edit: In the Podcast this is the first time Bezos has stated, publicly, that he left as the CEO of Amazon due to the lack of progress at Blue Origin. He states he is now spending most of his time there now.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 15 2023 05:31 GMT
#4879
Rocket Lab has returned to flight.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 16 2023 23:28 GMT
#4880
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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