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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-13 20:34:08
April 13 2023 20:33 GMT
#4641
Hm....


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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9037 Posts
April 13 2023 22:18 GMT
#4642
Itshappening.gif has been activated!
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 14 2023 13:28 GMT
#4643
Not a good sign.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 14 2023 17:50 GMT
#4644
Update on potential launch of Starship.


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-14 22:46:51
April 14 2023 22:19 GMT
#4645



edit: Set your alarms early they are aiming to liftoff at 7am EST.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
April 14 2023 23:24 GMT
#4646
Lets go (:
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-15 00:01:31
April 14 2023 23:46 GMT
#4647
There it is. But there will not be a reignition of the engines, no atmospheric reentry, nor an attempt to make a controlled reentry into the ocean. No flip either.

The U.S. Federal Aviation Administration on Friday granted a long-awaited license allowing Elon Musk's SpaceX to launch its Starship rocket to orbit for the first time, clearing the way for a test flight crucial to the company's goals in space.

"After a comprehensive license evaluation process, the FAA determined SpaceX met all safety, environmental, policy, payload, airspace integration and financial responsibility requirements," the FAA said in a statement on Friday, adding that the license is valid for five years.

The launch, from SpaceX's Starbase rocket facilities in Boca Chica, Texas, is slated for Monday April 17, the company affirmed on Twitter. Regulatory notices filed earlier on Friday indicate liftoff could occur anytime from 5:30 a.m. to 2 p.m. Central time.


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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
April 15 2023 01:10 GMT
#4648
no atmospheric reentry, nor an attempt to make a controlled reentry


Sounds like they're doing the whole re-entry test of the control and heat shielding systems but just not the flip and engine ignition in the last 15 seconds.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9037 Posts
April 15 2023 01:45 GMT
#4649
I'll be getting ready for work at that time, but you better ducking believe I will be glued to my phone the entire time.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-15 20:06:14
April 15 2023 20:04 GMT
#4650
Starship about to be fully stacked.



Also the expected roadmap of what will happen on Monday. Or what SpaceX hopes will happen.

https://apnews.com/article/spacex-musk-starship-launch-test-flight-11de145e989e0534b6399640bc437b8e
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 16 2023 14:15 GMT
#4651
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-17 00:11:05
April 16 2023 23:27 GMT
#4652
39 Raptor engines are about to be lit and if one goes wrong they all blow up... no human alive has ever seen a rocket this powerful attempt to take off.



"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15364 Posts
April 17 2023 06:16 GMT
#4653
It's difficult not to get hyped to the max about this even with all this expectation management.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 17 2023 12:22 GMT
#4654
An hour delay.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 17 2023 12:41 GMT
#4655
SpaceX feed has started.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-17 13:14:26
April 17 2023 13:12 GMT
#4656
Scrubbed.

edit: Possible reason.

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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9037 Posts
April 17 2023 13:57 GMT
#4657
Sad panda. Here's to tomorrow lol.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 17 2023 14:34 GMT
#4658
Meanwhile Rocket Lab just announced it is getting some of that sweet, sweet defense money by entering the Hypersonic tech race.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-17 23:43:08
April 17 2023 23:36 GMT
#4659
Of course.



edit: Line of trucks already at Starbase to refill propellent.

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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-18 17:44:56
April 18 2023 17:44 GMT
#4660
Looks like SpaceX will be needed in order to launch the EU's Galileo satellites as the Ariane 6 is over budget, and behind schedule. Keep in mind Europe decided on the Ariane 6 in order to compete with the Falcon 9.... in 2014.

No idea what happens if the US tells SpaceX/ULA or whoever else they are not allowed.

The European Commission wants to cut deals with private American space companies like Elon Musk's SpaceX to launch cutting-edge European navigation satellites due to continued delays to Europe's next generation Ariane rocket system.

In a draft request to EU countries seen by POLITICO, the Commission is planning to ask for a green light to negotiate "an ad-hoc security agreement" with the U.S. for its rocket companies to "exceptionally launch Galileo satellites.”

The Commission reckons only SpaceX's Falcon 9 heavy launcher and United Launch Alliance's Vulcan system are up to the job of sending the EU's new geo-navigation Galileo satellites — which weigh around 700 kilograms each — into orbit.

Seeking U.S. help to keep its flagship space program running puts a dent in the EU’s idea of strategic autonomy. Galileo is a point of pride for the EU, as it seeks to become less dependent on other regions for critical infrastructure, services and technology — a quest strongly backed by Paris.

The EU is having to seek assistance to launch new versions of its navigation satellites because the Ariane 5 rocket, developed by France-based ArianeGroup and launched from France's South American spaceport in French Guiana, is to be retired in the next months.

The deployment of its replacement, Ariane 6, has been delayed; the new system is currently expected to carry out a maiden launch at the end of this year, with full commercial deployment starting next year.

The alternative to the Ariane series would have been launching Galileo satellites with Russian-built Soyuz rockets, a version of which are also used at the French Guiana site. However, since Russia's invasion of Ukraine, two Galileo launches using Soyuz rockets have been cancelled, prompting the search for alternatives.

Galileo satellites beam highly accurate navigation and precise time data back to earth — and also provide a top secret encrypted service for use by government agencies. That means launches typically can only be carried out from EU territory under tight security rules.

"In view of the security sensitive information … included in Galileo satellites, an ad-hoc legally binding security agreement with [the] U.S. is necessary, in order to protect the integrity of the satellites and the Galileo constellation," said part of a draft proposal from the Commission seen by POLITICO.

It will be up to EU countries to approve negotiations for an agreement, which would come under the umbrella of standing deals on the exchange of classified information, the proposal states.

Capacity to launch satellites and humans into space independently of other powers has been a key part of French efforts to develop the concept of strategic autonomy for Europe.

But the need to contract out launches of critical space infrastructure to private companies operating in the U.S. undermines the argument that Europe is able to manage its own alternative to the U.S. GPS, Russia's Glonass and China's BeiDou constellations.

"Analyses are ... ongoing to ascertain whether or not launching with an alternative launch service provider would be feasible," said Commission spokesperson Sonya Gospodinova, adding that no decision has yet been taken. Assessments are being made on technical compatibility, launch site security and cost, she said.

While SpaceX's Falcon rocket is already operational, ULA only plans its first Vulcan mission in May.

The Paris-based European Space Agency, which isn't an EU institution but helps manage Galileo and runs the French Guiana spaceport, had already been looking at alternative launch options for satellites.


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