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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-04 15:20:55
November 04 2021 15:20 GMT
#4061
Blue Origin lawsuit against against NASA/SpaceX defeated.

The U.S. Court of Federal Claims ruled against Jeff Bezos’ Blue Origin in the company’s lawsuit versus NASA over a lucrative astronaut lunar lander contract awarded to Elon Musk’s SpaceX earlier this year.

Federal judge Richard Hertling sided with the defense in his ruling, completing a months-long battle after Blue Origin sued NASA in August.

Blue Origin, NASA, and SpaceX did not immediately respond to requests for comment on the ruling.

Musk, in a tweet responding to CNBC’s report on the ruling, posted a photo from the 1995 movie “Judge Dredd.”



NASA in April awarded SpaceX with the sole contract for the agency’s Human Landing System program under a competitive process. Worth $2.9 billion, the SpaceX contract will see the company use its Starship rocket to deliver astronauts to the moon’s surface for NASA’s upcoming Artemis missions.

SpaceX was competing with Blue Origin and Dynetics for what was expected to be two contracts, before NASA only awarded a single contract due to a lower-than-expected allocation for the program from Congress.

Blue Origin quickly protested the decision with the U.S. Government Accountability Office, but the GAO in late July denied the company’s appeal – leading Bezos’ space company to escalate its legal action.

A redacted version of Blue Origin’s lawsuit revealed the company’s complaint focused on proving that NASA wrongly awarded to only SpaceX and “disregarded key flight safety requirements” in the process.

Hertling’s ruling dismissed Blue Origin’s claims. The court’s opinion is currently sealed, as the case contains information proprietary to the companies, but the parties were ordered by Hertling to deliver proposed redactions by Nov. 18, to publicly release the opinion.

NASA’s work with SpaceX on the HLS contract was halted during the lawsuit but is scheduled to resume on Monday.


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9058 Posts
November 04 2021 16:37 GMT
#4062
Musk is the ultimate troll hahaha. Love it. Hopefully they can get some Starship launches going so they can get data and better prepare. I'm looking forward to this launch in 2 years.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 04 2021 18:13 GMT
#4063
Doesn't look like there will be an appeal.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9058 Posts
November 04 2021 20:15 GMT
#4064
Good. Maybe now they can focus their attention on actually making their engines and ships actually do what they've been paid to do for the past 5 years.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 04 2021 21:04 GMT
#4065

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9058 Posts
November 04 2021 21:27 GMT
#4066
They are really just junking up LEO huh? Boeing, SpaceX, BO, Astra. Who am I missing that is putting up a constellation?
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States837 Posts
November 05 2021 02:45 GMT
#4067
On November 05 2021 06:27 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
They are really just junking up LEO huh? Boeing, SpaceX, BO, Astra. Who am I missing that is putting up a constellation?

Aren't these satellites going up <500 km where they burn up rather quickly if there is a problem.

Also, fuck yeah on HLS moving forward. I got ten bucks saying NASA will choose Starship over SLS by 2025 for the whole fucking mission(s).
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-05 06:19:48
November 05 2021 06:18 GMT
#4068

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9058 Posts
November 05 2021 15:12 GMT
#4069
On November 05 2021 11:45 Husyelt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2021 06:27 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
They are really just junking up LEO huh? Boeing, SpaceX, BO, Astra. Who am I missing that is putting up a constellation?

Aren't these satellites going up <500 km where they burn up rather quickly if there is a problem.

Also, fuck yeah on HLS moving forward. I got ten bucks saying NASA will choose Starship over SLS by 2025 for the whole fucking mission(s).

They are. But I'm talking about the number of companies making some kind of internet constellation. This'll turn into the cell phone wars where every company has a constellation in the sky at some point, and only 2-3 really continue making it worthwhile.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-05 17:14:11
November 05 2021 16:38 GMT
#4070
Astra Space factory tour:



Boca Chica progress:



"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-07 16:05:11
November 07 2021 15:59 GMT
#4071


Cape Canaveral, Fla. (AP) -- High wind off the Florida coast has prompted SpaceX to delay the return of four space station astronauts in orbit since spring.

The U.S., French and Japanese astronauts were supposed to leave the International Space Station on Sunday, with their capsule splashing down in the Gulf of Mexico on Monday morning. But with gusts exceeding safety limits, SpaceX bumped the departure to Monday afternoon, with a nighttime return to conclude their six-month mission.

The good news is that their trip home will now last eight hours, less than half as long as before. The toilet in their capsule is broken, and so the four will need to rely on diapers while flying home.

SpaceX still is aiming for a Wednesday night launch, at the earliest, of their replacements. This flight also has been delayed by bad weather, as well as an astronaut's undisclosed medical issue. The issue, described as minor, should be resolved by launch time, officials said.

Last week, SpaceX and NASA flipped the order of the launch and landing because of the deteriorating weather and the looming deadline to get the capsule back from the space station. SpaceX capsules are certified for a maximum 210 days in orbit, and the one up there now is approaching 200 days.


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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-08 20:16:35
November 08 2021 20:10 GMT
#4072
It took over a year and a half to build a mockup of the New Glenn rocket. Bezos needs to fire Bob Smith asap.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-09 04:18:56
November 09 2021 04:17 GMT
#4073


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 09 2021 20:04 GMT
#4074


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9058 Posts
November 09 2021 23:03 GMT
#4075
On November 10 2021 05:04 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1458163258741956608

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB7sSG2Rl9k

T/N: Finally we can continue working with the company that gives NASA the best chance of returning to the Moon and even beyond within the timeframe we've set.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 11 2021 00:58 GMT
#4076
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-11 03:15:59
November 11 2021 01:05 GMT
#4077
Bezos is speaking about Space



His interview starts at 51:50
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 11 2021 02:51 GMT
#4078
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 11 2021 04:15 GMT
#4079
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States837 Posts
November 11 2021 05:20 GMT
#4080
Crew3 was fun to watch, back to back crewed missions for SpaceX success.

Bezos talk was alright, until talking about Shatner "it was one of the most moving experiences of my life- "
(proceeds to join the woo team and pour champagne on an recovering alcoholic).
Sure Jefrey with one f Jefrey.
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
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