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On December 09 2010 08:54 Goobus wrote:
how is it that you all are certain that there even exists this "insurance" keeping this dude alive?
Because Wikileaks posted the link on their Twitter account, maybe? Maybe because it's been proven time and time again that Wikileaks has a TON of information? Or that only around 950 of the 250,000 total documents in Cablegate have been released so far?
Or maybe they just typed "LOL LOL LOL" a hundred thousand times, and encrypted it. Maybe gravity doesn't exist. But if you were the US Government, would you take that chance?
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On December 09 2010 08:44 acker wrote:There's this one-gigabyte file floating around on the Internet, encrypted with 256-AES. It's pointedly labeled "Insurance". If the United States pulls one on Assange, the same way they pulled one on, say, Frank Olson, the United States will be in for a whole lot of hurting. No one knows what exactly is in those files, and the United States does not want to find out the hard way. Most likely case? The insurance file contains all the diplomatic cables. As in, completely uncensored diplomatic cables. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Olson
Another popular theory is that the insurance files contain cables and other materials specifically relating to the Iraq war effort and its orchestration, and various details from the active campaigns in Afghanistan and Iraq. Many people have sifted through the cables and discovered a strange void in materials from 2001 to 2003.
Given that we receive reports almost monthly of US soldiers or US-contracted companies in Afghanistan/Iraq killing civilians or bribing civilians to not report on them killing civilians or even killing journalists, I can't even imagine what kind of shocking stuff might have happened during the real military operations.
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Wikileaks has already released stuff about US hiding child prostitution in Afghanistan and forcing civilians into "minesweeping" in Iraq.
If your theory is true, whatever's in that document is probably pure dynamite.
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On December 09 2010 09:07 Krigwin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2010 08:44 acker wrote:There's this one-gigabyte file floating around on the Internet, encrypted with 256-AES. It's pointedly labeled "Insurance". If the United States pulls one on Assange, the same way they pulled one on, say, Frank Olson, the United States will be in for a whole lot of hurting. No one knows what exactly is in those files, and the United States does not want to find out the hard way. Most likely case? The insurance file contains all the diplomatic cables. As in, completely uncensored diplomatic cables. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Olson Another popular theory is that the insurance files contain cables and other materials specifically relating to the Iraq war effort and its orchestration, and various details from the active campaigns in Afghanistan and Iraq. Many people have sifted through the cables and discovered a strange void in materials from 2001 to 2003. Given that we receive reports almost monthly of US soldiers or US-contracted companies in Afghanistan/Iraq killing civilians or bribing civilians to not report on them killing civilians or even killing journalists, I can't even imagine what kind of shocking stuff might have happened during the real military operations.
The stuff about Bank of America, Guantanamo and BP could get allot of ppl in prison if these guys were to be on trial. But these guys are above all that or they think they are.
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foxnews seriously wrote assange possesses an aerial video of a US airstrike in afghanistan that killed civilians, and may release it if provoked? it has been out for a while already, even though they decide to ignore it
a baby step in the right direction foxnews, but catering to dumbasses does impose some constraints i suppose
link
u can see where the gunner is coming from if uve played any military shooters lately
edit: ohhh it is a video about an airstrike in afghanistan not iraq, my bad, probably more of the same but oh well, they didnt miss on their reporting by that far
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On December 09 2010 09:13 Taguchi wrote:foxnews seriously wrote assange possesses an aerial video of a US airstrike in afghanistan that killed civilians, and may release it if provoked? it has been out for a while already, even though they decide to ignore it a baby step in the right direction foxnews, but catering to dumbasses does impose some constraints i suppose linku can see where the gunner is coming from if uve played any military shooters lately edit: ohhh it is a video about an airstrike in afghanistan not iraq, my bad, probably more of the same but oh well, they didnt miss on their reporting by that far
Man I just saw that few days ago... made me sick
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Signed.
I really dislike when people are calling this rape because this is not about rape in the normal sense of the word, this is a way too harsh word. This is regarding a special law in Sweden (only country I'm aware of that has this law). He is being sought for questioning, through goddamn interpol, for a condom breaking. The two women have only accused him of sex without a condom and not being willing to test for STD's (His phone was off).
I wonder if interpol will follow through with the precedent they are setting for finding people wanted for questioning of these serious crimes.
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On December 09 2010 09:17 DragonDefonce wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2010 09:13 Taguchi wrote:foxnews seriously wrote assange possesses an aerial video of a US airstrike in afghanistan that killed civilians, and may release it if provoked? it has been out for a while already, even though they decide to ignore it a baby step in the right direction foxnews, but catering to dumbasses does impose some constraints i suppose linku can see where the gunner is coming from if uve played any military shooters lately edit: ohhh it is a video about an airstrike in afghanistan not iraq, my bad, probably more of the same but oh well, they didnt miss on their reporting by that far Man I just saw that few days ago... made me sick
listening to these guys talk scare me. "keep shooting ... good shooting,.. oh shit the dude rolled over the dead guy with a truk LOLOLOLOL". poor journalists and childs.
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On December 08 2010 13:39 Almania wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2010 13:34 FindingPride wrote:
Actually. If you read the case you would understand they have no case against him. This. The so-called "victim" is a complete nutcase - there's no case here. It's already been thrown out once, and it's only coming to light again because of the cables, not because of any "sexual assault". The government's are making a mockery of, as you say, a serious crime.
It's not an either-or proposition. It's perfectly possible that the US has put pressure on Interpol to make the arrest AND there is a case to answer to.
Also the "crazy" slurs against the alleged victim have no bearing on whether the crime in fact occurred. There's no law that says it's OK to rape people so long as they're mentally ill.
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On December 09 2010 09:11 acker wrote:
Wikileaks has already released stuff about US hiding child prostitution in Afghanistan and forcing civilians into "minesweeping" in Iraq.
If your theory is true, whatever's in that document is probably pure dynamite.
Yeah, but most of that stuff is post-operation. Just stuff happening during the occupation and reconstruction efforts.
I'm talking about stuff that actually happened during the invasions and initial operations. In that frenzy of activity, people there could have gotten away with anything. And, unlike other instances like Guantanamo or the airstrike footage, these materials would likely directly implicate high-ranking US military officials and politicians - maybe even the likes of Dick Cheney and George Bush.
Another thing to consider is that, whatever's in that file, assuming it's not just a bluff, is so devastating Wikileaks feels it is necessary to hold it back and only release it in case of all-out attack on Assange or the organization. Given the kind of disturbing stuff they have already released, it's hard to imagine what could be so disarming, so absolutely horrid, even Wikileaks itself feels it should not be released to the world.
I'm almost hoping it's just a bluff and the whole file is an encrypted dud, because I don't care to believe that the US has done something even worse than all of the killing civilians and shooting journalists and hiring contract killers to fight our wars stuff. That's bad enough for me already, thanks.
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On December 09 2010 08:57 Eben wrote:
Regarding his insurance file that is out there free to download. Do you guys think that the goverment has already cracked the password on it?
Or do you think that someone will eventually be able to open it now that it is out there for everyone to try?
I'm by no means familiar with the encryption on the file or really anything like that, just curious if someone with more knowledge could ring in.
So maybe if nothing happens someone could potentially 'release' the info anyway?
The file, as previously mentioned, is encrypted with 256-AES. Wikipedia has this to say about the standard:
"Bruce Schneier, a developer of the competing algorithm Twofish, wrote that while he thought successful academic attacks on Rijndael would be developed someday, "I do not believe that anyone will ever discover an attack that will allow someone to read Rijndael traffic.""
In other words, no, not even the CIA cant crack this one yet.
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Well honestly I gave up hope on Julian Assange when he went all like "Can I take it on a video link?" when he was summoned to court for raping two women who he worked with in wikileaks.
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On December 09 2010 09:28 Euronyme wrote:
Well honestly I gave up hope on Julian Assange when he went all like "Can I take it on a video link?" when he was summoned to court for raping two women who he worked with in wikileaks.
I can tell you read the thread. I can also tell you dont read news sites very much.
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On December 09 2010 09:28 Euronyme wrote:
Well honestly I gave up hope on Julian Assange when he went all like "Can I take it on a video link?" when he was summoned to court for raping two women who he worked with in wikileaks. You should read some of the former posts regarding this 'rape'. He's not even summoned to court, or formerly accused yet, he is wanted for questioning. I believe two pages back someone posted a link explaining how this 'rape' is not much else than a farce. Amazing how the guilty until proven otherwise and misinformed conceptions people have about what he has done.
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The United States itself uses 256-AES to encrypt TOP-SECRET documents.
If someone figures out how to break 256-AES...let's just say that they wouldn't need Wikileaks.
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Assange is not an idiot. Just shutting down the DNS server reference or the website like D.H.S did will not work at all. The files are probably locked away in multiple locations. If he feels threatened with a treason trial in the U.S., those files, no matter where they are, flood the 'net.
You can't stop the signal, Big Brother.
I honestly think these charges were coerched by one of the affected governments....... But who knows which one. </sarcasim>
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On December 09 2010 08:57 Eben wrote:
Regarding his insurance file that is out there free to download. Do you guys think that the goverment has already cracked the password on it?
Or do you think that someone will eventually be able to open it now that it is out there for everyone to try?
I'm by no means familiar with the encryption on the file or really anything like that, just curious if someone with more knowledge could ring in.
So maybe if nothing happens someone could potentially 'release' the info anyway?
Encryption is really hard to break but I would not underestimate the computational power of the US to be able to find the key. I wonder if you had 20 some petaflops of computing power working on the key how long it would take.
But it's not likely.
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On December 09 2010 09:27 Uberrated wrote:
The file, as previously mentioned, is encrypted with 256-AES. Wikipedia has this to say about the standard:
"Bruce Schneier, a developer of the competing algorithm Twofish, wrote that while he thought successful academic attacks on Rijndael would be developed someday, "I do not believe that anyone will ever discover an attack that will allow someone to read Rijndael traffic.""
In other words, no, not even the CIA cant crack this one yet.
Bruce Schneier was at my university's TEDx talks, interesting guy.
Quantum computing will break the fuck out of encryption though but we're not close enough to it yet.
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If the US could break it, WHY ON EARTH would they use it to encrypt TOP-SECRET documents? If you can break your own code, your enemy can break it in five years.
Hell, 256-bit is so strong that a computer that obeyed the laws of thermodynamics and irreversible computing would take roughly forever to crack it, in the best case scenario.
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I think that if he turned himself in that means he is ready to die to prove how fucked up the system really is.
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On December 09 2010 09:48 acker wrote:
If the US could break it, WHY ON EARTH would they use it to encrypt TOP-SECRET documents? If you can break your own code, your enemy can break it in five years.
Hell, 256-bit is so strong that a computer that obeyed the laws of thermodynamics and irreversible computing would take roughly forever to crack it, in the best case scenario.
Unless, you know, Assange is having some fun.
$ Enter password:
$ YOUGOTTROLLED
Still, with this file laying around the internets, you can be sure that someone is trying to decrypt it, however futile. The US government sure has the intensive to try.
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