First time getting sued, Info needed. - Page 5

On September 30 2010 07:25 Zocat wrote:
Ignore it (maybe ask a lawyer).

But make sure it is just from a law-firm not from a German court.
You can ignore ALL letters from lawyers. But if you receive one letter from court (afaik those are yellow) you should respond immediately (and definitely get a lawyer).

Also - did you sign anything when you got the letter? Or was it just in the mail? If it was just in the mail you always can say "I didnt receive anything from you" it's their job to prove, that you received the letter (via 'eigenhändig mit Rückschein' sent letters)

On September 30 2010 09:04 BraveGhost wrote:
do people really use torrents to download stuff still?

On September 30 2010 02:59 RaptorX wrote:


the bold was not added, thats the way it is in the document.

then they mention:




@Postaldude
I understand...
also i do find it doubtful that they can even prove that I downloaded the file considering that i have 2 pcs behind this router and this router has wireless connection on which even though password protected i have seen guys cracking wireless pass with my own eyes... thats the reason i mentioned earlier that their case might not hold up in court, but i might be wrong as i have never been to court before.

On September 30 2010 08:40 dybydx wrote:
go ahead and fight it. they have to prove in court that you actually have the movie they claim you to have. and given ur story, they have a damn hard time to prove it.

On September 30 2010 02:04 RaptorX wrote:


not sure where you got the information, but it doesnt look like that at all:

Blood: the film
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0806027/companycredits

Constatin Films on the 5th spot

Blood+: the anime
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0482855/companycredits

Dont see constantin films anywhere... they have no rights to the anime series which is the one i guiltily admit have in my PC.

So again as far as I can tell they have no business with me, or so I think.

--Edit

@Hawk
I will seek for a lawyer but i just wanted to have some info in my hands because here i might have to pay some hundred eurs just to consult one. >_>

@Grettin
I used Azureus at that time, i havent downloaded for a while since i am working on some little programs that i wrote so i dont have much time to watch stuff on the PC anymore.

@blix
agree and will do, just needed to know somethings before hand to not go like a complete ignorant (which i am) to the lawyer who i will probably have to pay by the hour... the quicker the session goes the better for me i guess, and going without no info will call for wasting time with some basic questions that might get answered here already

@blomsterjohn
haha, will try for sure

On September 30 2010 09:10 Kishkumen wrote:
Is this the same Constantin Films that took down all the Hitler parody videos off of youtube? If so, they suck. Don't give them a penny.

More seriously, lawyers often will give you a free consultation. That is probably your best bet. I seriously doubt that you will be forced to pay 1000 euros for a download you can't even trace.

On September 30 2010 07:22 justle wrote:
I work in entertainment licensing. Please note that searching for "Blood" on IMDb is not going to give you all the information you need to know about the product.

First, the company handling distribution/licensing for the film (especially in foreign markets) is usually not the production company (and most of the time the distributor won't be listed on IMDb).

Second, if they're accusing you of downloading something called "Blood" and you downloaded something called "Blood+" you are guilty. Obviously we can speculate about semantics (calling it a movie vs. a series, dropping the "+" out of the title), but you downloaded a product illegally and have been caught doing so. You don't know what company handles the licensing for either of these products and you shouldn't be looking at IMDb for the answer-- you SHOULD be calling the law firm and asking questions, asking for an extension while you look into this alleged piracy and try to clear it up, etc. You should also follow that up with professional legal advice.

A lot of distributors are putting files up as bait, meaning there is a very real possibility that what you are downloading is being tracked by those handling the licensing. They will send out similar letters to everyone they catch. Some will pay (that's a bonus), and some will fight it. They'll make the money back from piracy based on those that pay, and figure out if it's worth their while to fight the others. You might be able to save some money by paying a lawyer to get you out of this mess or you might save money by just paying the fee.