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On September 18 2010 05:12 Gaga wrote:
im am so fucking glad that there is no thing like FoX News and propaganda right wing radio in my country...
perhaps i don't see the full picture about the tea party but what i get from watching colbert and stewart and reading some new york times ... is frightening
We got BILD and Focus, they're pretty much the same. But thank god most germans accept those as lower class media not worth beeing read.
Also even our most backward and stupid popular parties (CDU/FDP) supported by bad media (Bild/Focus) are kinda moderate compared to US conservative wing.
FDP down to 5% in polls by the way, yeah!
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On September 18 2010 04:29 ArbAttack wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2010 04:15 bumatlarge wrote:
Do you guys want an honest christian PoV or are you just gonna label me as a retard and moron for not logically concluding evolution as 100% certain? Honest Christian PoV obviously. Unless you're a young-earth Creationist. Then I, along with 95%+ of TL will just destroy whatever you have to say.
Well, I'd say I'm more of a day-age creationist. I think there's too many variables to prove evolution in the span of a single century. Adaptation and hereditary complexity could easily account for what would appear to be evolutionary evidence. With so much gray area, I'm really not willing to embrace evolution, and for personal reasons I feel the most logical choice is deism. I could go into those personal reasons, but TL has a bad history involving these topics.
And the bible should not be taken literally... I believe it states the sun rises and sets? Then the whole book is loses any credibility. Not that anyone here thinks it has any credibility at all.
I completely agree with her position on abortion, rape and all. Guess I'm a horrible person?
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On September 18 2010 05:35 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2010 04:29 ArbAttack wrote:On September 18 2010 04:15 bumatlarge wrote:
Do you guys want an honest christian PoV or are you just gonna label me as a retard and moron for not logically concluding evolution as 100% certain? Honest Christian PoV obviously. Unless you're a young-earth Creationist. Then I, along with 95%+ of TL will just destroy whatever you have to say. Well, I'd say I'm more of a day-age creationist. I think there's too many variables to prove evolution in the span of a single century. Adaptation and hereditary complexity could easily account for what would appear to be evolutionary evidence. With so much gray area, I'm really not willing to embrace evolution, and for personal reasons I feel the most logical choice is deism. I could go into those personal reasons, but TL has a bad history involving these topics. And the bible should not be taken literally... I believe it states the sun rises and sets? Then the whole book is loses any credibility. Not that anyone here thinks it has any credibility at all. I completely agree with her position on abortion, rape and all. Guess I'm a horrible person?
What have you studied?
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On September 18 2010 05:35 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2010 04:29 ArbAttack wrote:On September 18 2010 04:15 bumatlarge wrote:
Do you guys want an honest christian PoV or are you just gonna label me as a retard and moron for not logically concluding evolution as 100% certain? Honest Christian PoV obviously. Unless you're a young-earth Creationist. Then I, along with 95%+ of TL will just destroy whatever you have to say. Well, I'd say I'm more of a day-age creationist. I think there's too many variables to prove evolution in the span of a single century. Adaptation and hereditary complexity could easily account for what would appear to be evolutionary evidence. With so much gray area, I'm really not willing to embrace evolution, and for personal reasons I feel the most logical choice is deism. I could go into those personal reasons, but TL has a bad history involving these topics. And the bible should not be taken literally... I believe it states the sun rises and sets? Then the whole book is loses any credibility. Not that anyone here thinks it has any credibility at all. I completely agree with her position on abortion, rape and all. Guess I'm a horrible person?
Just a little hint: TL has the tendency to concur when people ask to be flamed/banned/nailed to crosses.
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You said it yourself, SO MUCH GREY AREA.
That means one thing and one thing only: you must be agnostic. I cannot prove God does not exist anymore then you can, truth is we humans know so little about this universe its astounding to me that anyone thinks they have it figured out. Agnostic. Thats what you are and thats what everyone else should be.
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It's like a certain set of Rise Against lyrics I happen to like:
What we are is the sum of a thousand lies, and what we know is almost nothing at all =]
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Fuck this bitch up the ass, I literally hope she dies.
Against aborting even in cases of rape or incest?
Creationism taught in schools? Not only creationism, she wanted the bible to be taught literally. What a joke.
Opposes stem cell research?
And the fucking worst of all
Evolution is merely a theory?
I am so raged right now.
User was temp banned for this post.
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This is a loss for mankind and its progress...
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On September 18 2010 05:22 teekesselchen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2010 05:12 Gaga wrote:
im am so fucking glad that there is no thing like FoX News and propaganda right wing radio in my country...
perhaps i don't see the full picture about the tea party but what i get from watching colbert and stewart and reading some new york times ... is frightening We got BILD and Focus, they're pretty much the same. But thank god most germans accept those as lower class media not worth beeing read. Also even our most backward and stupid popular parties (CDU/FDP) supported by bad media (Bild/Focus) are kinda moderate compared to US conservative wing. FDP down to 5% in polls by the way, yeah!
watch a show of glenn beck, comparing obama to Hitler and Stalin at the same time ...
focus and Bild are a joke compared to that.
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On September 18 2010 05:49 ArvickHero wrote:
This is a loss for mankind and its progress...
No kidding, this is just plain disgusting. How can someone filled with so many stupid ideas possibly win over any people unless its the people that are stupid themselves. Which must be the case.
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On September 18 2010 05:46 PanN wrote:
Fuck this bitch up the ass, I literally hope she dies.
Against aborting even in cases of rape or incest?
Creationism taught in schools? Not only creationism, she wanted the bible to be taught literally. What a joke.
Opposes stem cell research?
And the fucking worst of all
Evolution is merely a theory?
I am so raged right now.
Maybe you can fit some explosives to your car and run it into her house. Do it for the greater good.
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On September 18 2010 05:42 DamnCats wrote:
You said it yourself, SO MUCH GREY AREA.
That means one thing and one thing only: you must be agnostic. I cannot prove God does not exist anymore then you can, truth is we humans know so little about this universe its astounding to me that anyone thinks they have it figured out. Agnostic. Thats what you are and thats what everyone else should be.
I said I have other reasons, mostly based around intellect, free will and emotions. I believe there is a clear difference in good and evil, which really has no purpose existing if there is no intelligent designer. I think my actions have consequences, and I'm going to leave it at that. Though I do hold immense respect for agnostics and people who are open-minded.
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Wow, reading the wiki now.
Here are my thoughts. I think America, and most countries these days are in a strange state.
The population worldwide is growing, and it's common knowledge that stupider people have more children. This means that genetically, people will become more and more stupid. Since natural selection no longer exists for intelligence (stupid people have a high chance of reproducing), this state will continue. So in theory, the average IQ (if not normalized) should be decreasing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fertility_and_intelligence
But it isn't! The average IQ is rapidly getting smarter. I attribute this to a rapid improvement in the educational systems worldwide. This means that education is a bigger deal than genetics in determining how smart people are. (I'm aware IQ is not a great measurement of intelligence, but it is something to go by).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect
What we're seeing today is the clash between the people who have taken greatly to the the improved educational systems (high tier universities) and become significantly smarter than people from previous generations, and the people who have not and seem really ignorant on just about every subject.
The difference is so great it's like homo sapiens is branching in evolution into homo smartius and homo stupidius, even though genetically, both are the same.
How does what I've been saying tie in with the Tea Party?
Well in my opinion, the people voting for the Tea Party are members of the Homo Stupidus Species lol. Many of these non-thinking conservative, unreasonable (blind religion creationism in school, guns, no abortion, no stem cell research) voters probably just didn't get a good education, and the few that did, were probably raised in a way to think too conservatively from a young age.
I'd also like to note that the rapid expansion in information technology has caused people to become louder about their ideas. Stupid people can be misinformed and enraged more easily.
I'm aware that this was a jumble of ideas, but I hope you can connect what I am trying to say into these summarizing lines. The people voting for Conservatives are about as intelligent as people from previous generations. They only seem stupid because you are relatively smarter than them because you took advantage of an improved educational system.
I think I'll keep my post count like this for a few days. 
Sorry I didn't bother to find better sources, and sorry for almost sounding nazi here. I don't advocate exterminating genetically less intelligent people; I probably am one.
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God help us all if these retards get even a sliver of power in the states. I would be so ashamed if I was American.
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Oh for heaven's sake, the melodrama of this forum is just as bad as the tea party. We all know that the tea party is not going to take Washington back, but we all know that no one will really move to Canada if they do.
Canada lacks the personality-driven politics which distinguishes American debate, and that is something everyone, including anti-populists, loves to indulge in.
Be legitimately afraid....of the collapse of the tl.net general forum should the tea party win and a northern exodus ensue.
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I hate people who dont have open minds. And holy shit so funny she doesnt want to teach evolution because its not "scientifically proven" but she wants to teach creationism? When the fuck has that ever been scientifically proven? (No offense to any religious TL'ers, but religion shouldn't get taught in school)
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On September 17 2010 10:59 Glaven wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2010 10:54 Xog wrote:
Anyone who will turn the country away from socialism is good enough for me. Yeah. Fuck em. "Taxed enough already" is damn right. Getting taxed because of these socialist initiatives is so unfair. Who cares about two wars costing billions of dollars a day. 40% of Americans receiving no healthcare or under-insured? Who cares as long as we have our freedom. Our freedom to choose. That's the American way.
Hey while you wait a year for surgery because some fat bureaucrat decides it's not a good use of government money I can get it done the same day in America, where we have the best medical care in the world. "as long as we have our freedom"? Freedom is everything. The American way is seeing you're not as well off or make as much money as you would like and being able to change it with enough hard work and dedication, not sitting back and demanding more from the government. That's the American way.
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On September 18 2010 05:58 MoltkeWarding wrote:
Oh for heaven's sake, the melodrama of this forum is just as bad as the tea party. We all know that the tea party is not going to take Washington back, but we all know that no one will really move to Canada if they do.
Canada lacks the personality-driven politics which distinguishes American debate, and that is something everyone, including anti-populists, loves to indulge in.
Which is the whole reason for this thread? Americans can rage and the rest of the world can laugh about it. Win/win.
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On September 18 2010 05:58 MoltkeWarding wrote:
Oh for heaven's sake, the melodrama of this forum is just as bad as the tea party. We all know that the tea party is not going to take Washington back, but we all know that no one will really move to Canada if they do.
Canada lacks the personality-driven politics which distinguishes American debate, and that is something everyone, including anti-populists, loves to indulge in.
Be legitimately afraid....of the collapse of the tl.net general forum should the tea party win and a northern exodus ensue.
Canadian politics can be exciting.... Stockwell Day rode a jet-ski once!... and.. and... Jack Layton has a mustache! and Michael Ignatieff is... is... umm....
Canadian politics are boring.
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On September 18 2010 06:01 NotGood- wrote:
religion shouldn't get taught in school)
I disagree. Religion should definitely be taught in school, as it is a big influence in the lives of people. It should not be taught as fact, however. But everybody should have a basic knowledge of the beliefs of the people around them. It's pretty hard to understand your fellow man if you don't understand his beliefs.
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