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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8281 Posts
March 11 2018 11:31 GMT
#19001
On March 11 2018 15:26 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2018 10:32 Hanh wrote:
On March 11 2018 02:00 nunez wrote:
i assumed the idempotency was defined wrt resources, and not responses. the resource, on the server, or the state of the server itself, does not change, but the response sent back to the client is different every time.

consider f.ex. the inclusion of a date-field in the response: it might differ for each corresponding request.


An easy way to reason about GET vs POST is to remember that the client (browser) is allowed to cache the response of a GET query. If that affects your expected behavior, GET should be avoided.

I have been wondering about this, too. I'm working on something that is similar to a forum in a SPA. The content of a thread necessarily changes over time. So when I request a certain thread (all its comments), do I use a GET (bad because of caching) or a POST (doesn't seem to be what POST is supposed to be for).


Absolutely a GET here. If you're requesting information that doesn't change anything on the server, it's always GET. If you're telling the server to change something, it's one of the other (POST, PUT, DEL). Just because the content you're requesting changes over time or from user to user doesn't change the fact that the command itself doesn't change anything on its own (Logging excluded).
berated-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1134 Posts
March 11 2018 12:31 GMT
#19002
On March 11 2018 02:00 nunez wrote:
i assumed the idempotency was defined wrt resources, and not responses. the resource, on the server, or the state of the server itself, does not change, but the response sent back to the client is different every time.

consider f.ex. the inclusion of a date-field in the response: it might differ for each corresponding request.


I'm not sure I've seen much in the way of respsonses as an official term in REST discussion. I assumed (maybe incorrectly) that what you're calling a response was a resource.

Which thinking while typing... Might be where the disconnect is coming. When we are writing our apps we want them to do something - that's why we think in algorithm and operations. To make it RESTful we have to stop thinking about what we're doing and more about what we're managing - our resources.

This was a pretty good read about resource modelling.
resource modelling
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
March 11 2018 22:03 GMT
#19003
a neat thing: gccfilter.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28104 Posts
March 13 2018 18:33 GMT
#19004
https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2018/

Always a good read.
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Liebig
Profile Joined August 2010
France738 Posts
March 13 2018 18:38 GMT
#19005
ocaml second high paying techno after F# :O
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28104 Posts
March 13 2018 18:41 GMT
#19006
Dirty finance devs
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Liebig
Profile Joined August 2010
France738 Posts
March 13 2018 19:35 GMT
#19007
yeah makes sense, jane street must be like 75% of all industrial ocaml dev lol
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17871 Posts
March 16 2018 07:32 GMT
#19008
Regarding OCaml: https://arxiv.org/abs/1803.02796
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
teamamerica
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States958 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-16 11:58:18
March 16 2018 11:55 GMT
#19009
edit: sry, wrong thread.
RIP GOMTV. RIP PROLEAGUE.
WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
March 19 2018 23:42 GMT
#19010
I have run into a strange bug(?) while templating with Pug and AWS Lambda.

sometext
someothertext



When I render this on a localhost with Pug as the view engine for Express it gets templated just fine, as two separate lines of code.

When I render this on Lambda I retrieve the file from S3 with whitespace intact, and then lose the whitespace as soon as I render.

From what I've been reading Express shouldn't be the difference maker. Does anyone know why else this might be happening?

In Express my rendering is:


res.render("index")


and in Lambda it is:


pug.render( data.Body.toString() )

where data is a retrieved s3 object.
Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17871 Posts
March 20 2018 01:48 GMT
#19011
I wonder if it's a Pug issue or Lambda issue...

Does any of that help?

https://pugjs.org/language/plain-text.html#whitespace-control
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
March 20 2018 02:22 GMT
#19012
Yeah, I've been having a hard time tracking down which side to actually blame.

That link might explain my problem but I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around what they mean. Some experimenting I did in their sand box suggests that only a few elements, like <em>, are actually inlined. Also, it seems like a lot of their documentation is wrong - for example, white space in the middle of a line is not retained. In fact, it seems like all of point 2 is incorrect. Am I misunderstanding their documentation?
Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-22 03:00:31
March 21 2018 23:14 GMT
#19013
I have it working:

https://9ayj4z17y9.execute-api.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/Test

The sliders got duplicated for whatever reason, some of the tags are messed up and it loads super slow. I don't know why any of these are problems.

I also found out 5 minutes ago that there is an automatic way to convert Express/Node apps into Lambda, but I was already done. Now I know for next time!
Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17871 Posts
March 21 2018 23:27 GMT
#19014
Haha, is that Monopoly?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
March 22 2018 03:06 GMT
#19015
Yup! My family got super into it over the Christmas break a few years ago so I wrote up a program that tells you which squares are best depending on the board state (number of houses, etc.) using a DTMC. Once my family found out I did this they coincidentally didn't want to play any more.

I would like to ask for feedback but the current version up there is so janky I'll try to fix it up before asking.
Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8281 Posts
March 22 2018 08:15 GMT
#19016
Very Janky, like duplicate slide bars. That said the main problem I have is I don't quite understand how to use it. It's not super user friendly, especially without instructions
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12134 Posts
March 22 2018 10:29 GMT
#19017
I spent almost a decade on a non-objective programming language and I would like to get back into a shape. Thus I am looking for several tasks from easy to hard preferably already solved in JAVA to regain my lost powers. Are there any pages with a content like that? Obviously I am not creative enough to just start writing

Obviously my Google skill is low

Thanks!
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8281 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-22 11:32:17
March 22 2018 11:28 GMT
#19018
On March 22 2018 19:29 deacon.frost wrote:
I spent almost a decade on a non-objective programming language and I would like to get back into a shape. Thus I am looking for several tasks from easy to hard preferably already solved in JAVA to regain my lost powers. Are there any pages with a content like that? Obviously I am not creative enough to just start writing

Obviously my Google skill is low

Thanks!


https://www.codewars.com is excellent for tasks. You can choose difficulty yourself, or just start off easy and let yourself "rank up" as you go along. After finishing/giving up on a task, you'll be able to see the solutions of other people (And then, inevitably, brood over how awful your code is compared to everyone else's..or maybe that's just me)
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12134 Posts
March 22 2018 12:11 GMT
#19019
On March 22 2018 20:28 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 19:29 deacon.frost wrote:
I spent almost a decade on a non-objective programming language and I would like to get back into a shape. Thus I am looking for several tasks from easy to hard preferably already solved in JAVA to regain my lost powers. Are there any pages with a content like that? Obviously I am not creative enough to just start writing

Obviously my Google skill is low

Thanks!


https://www.codewars.com is excellent for tasks. You can choose difficulty yourself, or just start off easy and let yourself "rank up" as you go along. After finishing/giving up on a task, you'll be able to see the solutions of other people (And then, inevitably, brood over how awful your code is compared to everyone else's..or maybe that's just me)

Thank you!!!
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany986 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-02 12:33:23
March 22 2018 15:24 GMT
#19020
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