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UCSB.Gosu
United States39 Posts
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Silvanel
Poland4767 Posts
PS. And yeah thats true Manitou, thats way i told people to take close look at the end of the list... | ||
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True_Spike
Poland3433 Posts
On April 10 2010 18:35 Green_Ranger wrote: He is absolutely true; the myth of leaving EU is just a myth used by PIS; they never support it in ANY way. The only difference between the parties is that PIS doesnt want the euro, and PO does. Im very currious how will this distract the whole election process; I suppose the "martyr effect" will boost PIS chances of reelection significantly; thus the only people who would benefit from such an assasination would be USA; which is fully supported by the retarded politicians. Yes, because that's all there is to it. Whether or not they want to leave the EU and / or join the Eurozone. Joining the EU was inevitable and every non-extremist party understands that. Realizing that doesn't make you pro-EU in any way whatsoever. | ||
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Deimos0
Poland277 Posts
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stormssc
Poland125 Posts
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Green_Ranger
17 Posts
On April 10 2010 18:37 Silvanel wrote: Lol.....how would USA benefit from it.....thats just ridiculus. PS. And yeah thats true Manitou, thats way i told people to take close look at the end of the list... PIS fully supports the creation of an anti ballistic missile base in Poland by USA. In fact, they want to PAY usa for creating it; despite the fact that it only creates a threat in case of an russia-usa atomic war - these idiots want to make the base just near Warsaw. You see, USA is just the same as Russia and only cares for itself (which is cruel but true); the only difference is that "our friends" have better marketing. The Russians said that if the Polish gov wont even inspect the bases (LOL!), the usa can just put normal a-bombs there. Anyway, cgs for a government which makes Warsaw a city that is supposed to be hit by an atomic bomb. Although to remain true, according to the Russian (and probably NATO too) agenda, in case of a war they will make an "atomic road" through Poland into Germany. Anyway, I dont think many people here can discuss such politics; most people can only say that "the other party is bad"; which is in fact true, both suck. | ||
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ieatkids5
United States4628 Posts
i wonder how poland will deal with this... how will the vacant spots in government be filled. | ||
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True_Spike
Poland3433 Posts
On April 10 2010 18:45 Green_Ranger wrote: PIS fully supports the creation of an anti ballistic missile base in Poland by USA. In fact, they want to PAY usa for creating it; despite the fact that it only creates a threat in case of an russia-usa atomic war - these idiots want to make the base just near Warsaw. You see, USA is just the same as Russia and only cares for itself (which is cruel but true); the only difference is that "our friends" have better marketing. The Russians said that if the Polish gov wont even inspect the bases (LOL!), the usa can just put normal a-bombs there. Anyway, cgs for a government which makes Warsaw a city that is supposed to be hit by an atomic bomb. Although to remain true, according to the Russian (and probably NATO too) agenda, in case of a war they will make an "atomic road" through Poland into Germany. Anyway, I dont think many people here can discuss such politics; most people can only say that "the other party is bad"; which is in fact true, both suck. And as we all know a russian-american conflict is highly probable. Eh... What you are referring to in the last part of your post was absolutely true - in the years of the Warsaw Pact. A long time ago. | ||
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Rewera
Poland354 Posts
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iFU.pauline
France1727 Posts
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Magic84
Russian Federation1381 Posts
On April 10 2010 18:33 Deimos0 wrote: Kaczynski was controversial president indeed. He (as well as his brother) often was attacked by independent media for favouring catholic standards and conservative approach to politics. Suggesting it's PO's fault is and will be ridiculous, but as we all know - everything is possible in Poland. Polls usually aren't accurate but this tragedy makes Bronislaw Komorowski the most probable winner of the election. Often people who get trashed in media are good guys, i don't believe in independent media that is popular. Was he actually doing anything other than talking, something visible to the eye like improving environment and nations health or morale? Hopefully it was a honest accident. How many families lost their relatives and hurting now, crap. Spirits of the katyn are unrest and took sacrifices for the anniversary. | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4767 Posts
I dont know what to say, you make no fucking sense. How disturbing a country that is already supporting most of US agendas would help help USA is beyond my understanding. And whether our government wants that base or not, doesnt matter, what matters is that US does not want it (couse of Russia objections). END of story. Your view of both international and national policy is very flawed IMHO. | ||
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whiterabbit
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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Deimos0
Poland277 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On April 10 2010 18:56 Magic84 wrote: Often people who get trashed in media are good guys, i don't believe in independent media that is popular. Was he actually doing anything other than talking, something visible to the eye like improving environment and nations health or morale? Hopefully it was a honest accident. How many families lost their relatives and hurting now, crap. Spirits of the katyn are unrest and took sacrifices for the anniversary. Kaczynski was strongly dedicated to his (and his brother's) view of Poland as independent and free country. This obviously affected relations with Russia and EU countries. At least he had vision of how Poland should look like. In my opinion he was too dependant on his brother and it probably was one of his most important weaknesses. He didn't seem too active also (as president). | ||
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Latham
9582 Posts
This is a huge tragedy. We lost a lot of our ministers, and MOST of our military commanders which is a HUGE deal, that a lot of the world media marginalise. It's partly due to the airport in Smolensk. The runway is 1500m long and without proper guiding lights at the sides (the standard is 2000m of runway for planes). Like people have stated before me, it's also due to the negligence of our airfleet. Our ministers couldn't find the money to upgrade it for many years. It's also unheard of, that all of our staff are on 1 FUCKING PLANE. This is a huge blow to us. Even if our constitution clearly says that these people can be replaced in a strictly administrative manner, it will still be some time before our country's administration is back up and running like it was before. | ||
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True_Spike
Poland3433 Posts
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Usul
Germany150 Posts
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Rewera
Poland354 Posts
On April 10 2010 19:08 Latham wrote: couldn't find the money to upgrade it for many years. They just* spent 70 milionów zł [ ~ $ 25 milion] on heavy modernization on this very plane. *[ this or last year] | ||
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