Was Skrzypek - the head of the Polish National Bank (NBP) - also killed?
If so, it leads to interesting questions - who will pick his substitute. We had the problem of the NBP doing (or not doing) a booking operation in order to support the budget - and there was a draw in voting; the new person will be able to change the result.

On April 10 2010 18:58 Silvanel wrote:
Green_Ranger

I dont know what to say, you make no fucking sense. How disturbing a country that is already supporting most of US agendas would help help USA is beyond my understanding. And whether our government wants that base or not, doesnt matter, what matters is that US does not want it (couse of Russia objections). END of story.
Your view of both international and national policy is very flawed IMHO.

People are idiots, I believe that the martyr effect will work.
Kaczynski was sick anyway, and didnt want to participate in the elections.
Now his brother can stand (the one who doesnt even have a wife).

There were terrorist attacks in Spain - it drastically changed the results.
That guy (sorry dont remember his name) was murdered in Holland - it dramatically changed the results of the elections.

On April 10 2010 18:56 Magic84 wrote:

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Often people who get trashed in media are good guys, i don't believe in independent media that is popular. Was he actually doing anything other than talking, something visible to the eye like improving environment and nations health or morale? Hopefully it was a honest accident. How many families lost their relatives and hurting now, crap. Spirits of the katyn are unrest and took sacrifices for the anniversary.

He wasnt such a good guy; at one point he vetoed all the actions of the government and basically wanted to stop ANY reforms and changes in the law; even the good ones.

KwarK

United States43818 Posts

April 10 2010 12:26 GMT

#106

On April 10 2010 20:21 Number41 wrote:
That's horrible! My condolences to the Polish people.

Stay strong, as you've always been!

Jibba

United States22883 Posts

April 10 2010 12:40 GMT

#107

I am so so sorry. The scope of this is just unbelievable.

How is it still possible to crash on a landing like that with auto-pilot?

Boblion

France8043 Posts

April 10 2010 12:42 GMT

#108

I have always wondered why they ( not just Poland ) have to put all the important persons ( president, ministers, generals etc ...) in the same plane when they are doing trip like that.
That's fucking retarded. Yea planes are still the safest way to travel but when something wrong happen you are in a terrible situation with basicly the whole army and political hierarchy gone.

FreeDoM[YA]

Canada855 Posts

April 10 2010 12:48 GMT

#109

This is awful. I just hope that Poland can recover from this tragic loss.

SkelA

Macedonia13074 Posts

April 10 2010 12:52 GMT

#110

Wow so sad kinda reminded me when our president together with 10+ other ppl died in plane crash in Bosnia

My condolences to the Polish ppl .

Loanshark

China3094 Posts

April 10 2010 12:54 GMT

#111

So tragic.....

My condolences.

Here's an English link, just Wikipedia, not news article, dunno if it's been posted or not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Polish_Air_Force_Tu-154_crash

Itachii

Poland12466 Posts

April 10 2010 12:56 GMT

#112

This is sad day for Poland indeed.
One of many

Osmoses

Sweden5302 Posts

April 10 2010 12:57 GMT

#113

People die in the thousands every day, stop pretending you give a shit about human life, this is big news because basically a big chunk of a western country's government just vanished. I mean this is really bad for Poland, but If this had happened to the US' Air Force One the entire world would be frothing at the mouth.

Holy crap.

Edit: OK that might've come off sounding a little harsh, but I stand by it, don't pretend this would have been big news had it been a passenger jet.

739

Bearded Elder29904 Posts

April 10 2010 13:02 GMT

#114

... I won't comment on Your post buddy. It's just a big bullshit. You need to take a note on that it has never happened before that so many people from a government (president and his wife) died in a fcking plane crush. Christ. I'm polish and I give a fcking shit about what happened, I even cried...

Tal

United Kingdom1017 Posts

April 10 2010 13:03 GMT

#115

Of course it wouldn't have been big news if it was a passenger jet - passenger jets don't tend to carry 80 highly trained, very hard to replace people who's decisions impact on the lives of 38 million people.

I've never heard of anything like this in recent history...my condolences to Poland.

Edit...also can someone fix the thread title spelling? It's catastrophe.

Maenander

Germany4926 Posts

April 10 2010 13:08 GMT

#116

On April 10 2010 21:40 Jibba wrote:
I am so so sorry. The scope of this is just unbelievable.

How is it still possible to crash on a landing like that with auto-pilot?

According to the german media it was very foggy and they tried to land 4 times before crashing.

They also report that the russian control tower told the pilot that it would be better to land elsewhere, but he tried the landing in Smolensk anyway.

I hope Poland can quickly recover from this tragedy.

XsebT

Denmark2980 Posts

April 10 2010 13:09 GMT

#117

I just heard about this is the radio... Jeez! Bad luck!
This will probably lead to some rule that governments should take serveral planes as transport to avoid this kinda stuff.

Green_Ranger

17 Posts

April 10 2010 13:12 GMT

#118

records of dead artists sell best
judging from the comments of people who behave like retarded sheep* I think the results of the upcoming presidental elections will be much altered from the predictions made before the crash - the PIS candidate (probably other Kaczynski twin), will win

*actually one of the main PIS spin doctor's used a similar expression about his own supporters

omninmo

2349 Posts

April 10 2010 13:13 GMT

#119

seems to be quite the coincidence. perhaps not an accident? the real question is who or what stands to gain from that group of polish officials being wiped out