EPTPolish Catastrophy - Page 8
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Gretorp
United States586 Posts
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
 But, how can Poland still use the Tu-154? Even Vietnam ditched these planes a decade ago. | ||
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Rewera
Poland354 Posts
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FonzeXD
United States220 Posts
Sad day, but not for Germans! | ||
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Corvi
Germany1406 Posts
On April 11 2010 00:00 FonzeXD wrote: Poland lost all of its important people.. Sad day, but not for Germans! retarded? /edit i normally dont make these kind of posts, but this is mindblowingly stupid and offending. | ||
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Deimos0
Poland277 Posts
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snotboogie
Australia3550 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
On April 11 2010 00:02 snotboogie wrote: Am I the only one thinking assassination? indeed, 70 years ago, thats why they were going there http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre but not now | ||
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RoosterSamurai
Japan2108 Posts
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Usul
Germany150 Posts
On April 11 2010 00:00 FonzeXD wrote: Poland lost all of its important people.. Sad day, but not for Germans! Wow, you're an idiot! On April 11 2010 00:02 snotboogie wrote: Am I the only one thinking assassination? I hope so. So far the majority seems to be sensible and doesn't fall for conspiracy theories. | ||
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Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
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CruiseR
Poland4014 Posts
it's indeed a "cursed" place. The elite was murdered there few decades ago, and now, again, the elite dies just few kilometers from Katyn. And the final decision about landing or not is always in the hands of pilots crew. | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
Poland is a great and beautiful country, this is a horrible tragedy. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
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GoShox
United States1845 Posts
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stormssc
Poland125 Posts
On April 10 2010 23:52 Caphe wrote: But, how can Poland still use the Tu-154? Even Vietnam ditched these planes a decade ago. Plane that crashed today was put into maintenance very recently, and it did get upgraded etc. Maintenance cost was pretty big, as far as I remember. Other Polish delegation did use this plane a couple of days ago, and it was 100% operational. I do not think the crash was caused by plane's bad technical condition. | ||
Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
Now, to summarize the posts about the causes of this disaster: - Putting many important figures on a single plane. - Choosing to land at an unsafe airport despite recommendations to land elsewhere. - Attempting to land in extremely unsafe weather conditions. - Attempting to land 4 times instead of backing off after 2 attempts -- the standard procedure. If you ask me, this was not an accident, but a tragic case of human negligence. It is not clear who is to blame (although the pilots must share some of it), but multiple people should have made decisions that would have avoided this disaster. The flight recorders should tell us more. | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On April 10 2010 23:33 Itachii wrote: " scenario above with our own president forcing pilot to land despite the extremely bad conditions is... possible. We had a similar story in summer '08, when pilot of goverment's plane decided not to land in Asia and changed their route. Our president (Kaczynski) was extremely angry and was trying to punish pilot and take his pilot licence after the trip (can't find the exact source though). " no sorry, this is just bullshit.do you seriously think that he would actually force the pilot to change his route/tell him where and when to land? comon sense dude, the guy/s piloting were in charge and if you wanna blame someone for bad decisions, its the pilot and people arround him, not president Yeah theoretically he should have done that, but what do you think how many pilots will, if the president curses at you and says that he'll make sure youre gonna be fired unless you freakin land there, how many will say "I guess that's something I'll just have to accept" and not do what the president says? It's what he should have done and he's to blame for that but it doesnt take away any blame from the president himself,if he wasn't such an idiot none of this would have happened. I'm sorry for talking so much about something that is purely speculation but it's already happened in 08, I dont see why this shouldnt have been the case here either (plz dont tell me I therefore show a lack of common sense) and just the thought of it makes me fucking angry. | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On April 11 2010 00:38 stormssc wrote: Plane that crashed today was put into maintenance very recently, and it did get upgraded etc. Maintenance cost was pretty big, as far as I remember. Other Polish delegation did use this plane a couple of days ago, and it was 100% operational. I do not think the crash was caused by plane's bad technical condition. Yep, I did some research and I was wrong. Seems that it is a solid plane but just too much of bad luck. Most of its crash has nothing to do with technical, they all were either bad weather or pilot's mistake. | ||
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economist_
Vietnam719 Posts
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