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MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
August 08 2009 11:57 GMT
#321
you are probably just bad at the game =p

(online rankings mean jack squat)
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Ginseng
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States268 Posts
August 08 2009 18:19 GMT
#322
You are sooo mean haha.
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armed_
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada443 Posts
August 08 2009 18:41 GMT
#323
On August 09 2009 03:19 Ginseng wrote:
You are sooo mean haha.

*honest
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
August 08 2009 19:38 GMT
#324
On August 09 2009 03:41 armed_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2009 03:19 Ginseng wrote:
You are sooo mean haha.

*honest

*mean
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Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
August 09 2009 00:32 GMT
#325
whatev

it's just a fact that i beat opponents with exactly 2 combos (214D + snow flower storm) with jin I would never have beaten with litchi nor ragna. and even if online ranks don't mean jack shit i have not been able to beat any level 30 + opponents with my "main chars" - with jin i got no problem doing so.

and in case the jin players of you feel affronted: i don't think that he's imbalanced nor that this would apply for the real top notch play where everyone uses his char to its full potential - but if i'm able to beat much stronger opponents with only ice car + blade storm (who would have RAPED me had i taken litchi or ragna) and basically making fun of them in doing that i call it cheesy.

this seems to work for most starters with jin and that's what i'm frustrated about. the basics of this char are so easy to pick up and execute and it appears that the "equally skilled" opponent has to try much harder to win (on low level play).

but
most of you guys are in a whole other league anyway and these are not your concerns so i guess i have to bear that the "received balance" at low level play is just very different from the level you play at.

Ginseng
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States268 Posts
August 09 2009 01:08 GMT
#326
As a Jin player..I don't even know what snow flower storm is lolol
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armed_
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada443 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-09 01:17:54
August 09 2009 01:17 GMT
#327
So um, you do realise that ice car(or attacks in general) can be blocked, yes? Just checking.
Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
August 09 2009 02:09 GMT
#328
no, never heard of that. where did you read it?

so, to illustrate what I mean I uploaded the match vs. the level 45 taokaka. as you can see I don't even know exactly what I'm doing - it's the first time playing jin for me - and still it seems to be enough to take out this guy who, after all, played to level 45 with his char... so..

Ginseng
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States268 Posts
August 09 2009 02:23 GMT
#329
He got raped by latency pretty badly imo. And you should NEVER judge people by level.

And how have you not heard of blocking.....
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armed_
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada443 Posts
August 09 2009 02:55 GMT
#330
On August 09 2009 11:23 Ginseng wrote:
And how have you not heard of blocking.....

I assume he was responding to my sarcasm in kind.

Anyway, it would really be more productive to post a video of you losing to a Jin, y'know, so we could give advice which you could then apply and figure out why Jin isn't overpowered at all. There's nothing we can say about your bad Jin beating a bad Tao that'll magically allow you to see how your bad Jin would've lost to a good Tao.
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
August 09 2009 03:36 GMT
#331
Got 2nd in a blaze tourney today Could've taken it home, but I didn't figure out how to fight taokaka properly within winner's / grand finals. Given I had 2 bo5 sets to get a grasp of it, I actually did make the grand finals very close. But that crouch shit + her wierd drive jump in arc that dodges both 6d and 2d took me out of winner's free lolol.

It was recorded, but I don't know who's camera it was so I'm not sure if it's going on youtube

ghardo, your problem probably lies with how you play. With jin, you're not attempting to learn real combos, understand matchups, etc at all. You're just hitting small gauranteed combos. In all likelihood, when you play litchi, you drop combos all day, which makes you not only miss out on damage but puts you in bad positions (like completely losing your offense, possibly leaving yourself wide open for punishment etc.).

Add in a grain of salt with every match you play online strictly because it's online. Some connections are bearable, some are downright disgusting. And the worse you are, the less it affects you (which is why there are so many shitty online jins mashing ice car lol).
Demoninja
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1190 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-09 06:46:02
August 09 2009 04:32 GMT
#332
Trumpet, when you say the weird drive jump thing do you mean Tao's 5D. I think that's the one where she jumps up and back a bit then flies toward you. If you mean that, I've been hitting it with 6DD > 2DD every time. Since I'm a terrible player I can't do the full 6DD > 2DD > j.C > j.2C > dj.C > dj.2C > 214D. It's probably a timing thing haha. If you can't get it to work out did you try just using 2C?\

Edit: It's actually 4D.

Edit2: Any strong Tao, Bang, Carl, or Litchi players on PSN here? Can you guys add me on PSN I'd like to practice vs them.
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-09 09:43:32
August 09 2009 09:12 GMT
#333
haha no, the guy had a spot he would just do it from in the air that both 6d and 2d missed on several attempts. I tried 2C a couple times, I can't remember if it lost the trade or I just hit it too late. Didn't have time to try 6A.

But yea, vs tao, after 5dd if theyre crouching to duck any followup swords: 236D~C, j.2dd, and dash in mixups are the way to go, with vast majority of the emphasis on dash in mixups. If only I knew that before today I'd be a little richer ; ;

Edit:
On August 09 2009 18:30 Ginseng wrote:
So Trumpet, how's your v-13 now? haha


With any luck, I'll be able to just link you via youtube! But not significantly different, just added a relaunch RC combo and a few tech traps into the mix. And learned that it actually is possible to combo off jump in j.c (with 2c into w/e) lol. I still used 80% of my bursts above 80% life, do 6C on 2C block instead of going high / low, etc. Bad player 4 lyf.
Ginseng
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States268 Posts
August 09 2009 09:30 GMT
#334
So Trumpet, how's your v-13 now? haha
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Demoninja
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1190 Posts
August 09 2009 18:34 GMT
#335
Ah okay, maybe I'm just playing against bad Taos who don't know when they should drive in haha.
Ginseng
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States268 Posts
August 09 2009 18:41 GMT
#336
Nothing wrong with bursting early as v-13 to put off pressure and put the momentum in your favor, unless it somehow gets read and it gets blocked....

Demoninja: Most Taos don't know what they're doing, especially online. I fortunately get to play vs a great Tao in the form of Taokakaftw/TaoFTW at SVGL at times or whenever there's a session(we never really have console sessions).

Though the SVGL BB machine got moved to the back due to new sf4 head-to-head cabinets haha.
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Demoninja
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1190 Posts
August 10 2009 03:10 GMT
#337
Hey Trumpet I have a very important question to ask you. What color do you use? Usually I'll go with the default blue/white but sometimes I like to rock with the pink Nu.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-10 06:24:57
August 10 2009 06:19 GMT
#338
he rocking with that purple and black nu yo

at least that was last time we played

only default color that really stands out to me is ragnas imo

edit; super saiyan ragna's not bad either
Forever Young
Ginseng
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States268 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-10 06:35:20
August 10 2009 06:28 GMT
#339
Bastard, that's my Ragna color!

Black nu with pink hair is the best nu color imo

Btw, trumpet, you up for games in a bit?
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Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
August 10 2009 06:29 GMT
#340
On August 10 2009 12:10 Demoninja wrote:
Hey Trumpet I have a very important question to ask you. What color do you use? Usually I'll go with the default blue/white but sometimes I like to rock with the pink Nu.


sung_moon got it right!

I have a strict policy of picking color with short kick (aka D for bb). Which is why sf4's color picking method is bull shit D:

It's actually useful in tourneys because I can tell right away whether or not my buttons are correct before the match starts (Not that I ever play without checking buttons anyway).
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