• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:59
CET 02:59
KST 10:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy7ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool48Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open RSL Season 4 announced for March-April WardiTV Team League Season 10 KSL Week 87
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
Which mirror match you like most or least? How much money terran looses from gas steal? Gypsy to Korea BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ mca64Launcher - New Version with StarCraft: Remast
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group C [ASL21] Ro24 Group B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2026 Changsha Offline Cup
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Cricket [SPORT] 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5404 users

NBA Offseason Thread 2009 - Page 2

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 62 63 64 Next
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
June 16 2009 23:38 GMT
#21
the next season is kind of an uneventful lull before 2010. i expect the cavs to regress somewhat in regular season wins, unless lebron takes his game to yet another level, which is unfair but somehow distinctly possible. they will try to get a "player," but will not be discriminating when it comes to value. i see this pressure to get some help for lebron as a potential pitfall that might mess with their cap space come 2010, not for signing lebron, but for signing that other guy to go with him.

most interesting teams to watch, thunders and portland, along with howard's development down there.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
June 17 2009 00:55 GMT
#22
This has nothing to do with anything, but I love those Kobe/LeBron Nike puppet commercials.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14908 Posts
June 17 2009 00:58 GMT
#23
i HATE those lebron puppet commercials
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
June 17 2009 01:09 GMT
#24
bulls 09-10 champs! you heard it here first.

seriously though, Derrick Rose will break out next season. A decent trade or 2 for a big man and Chicago is set.
Woo Jung Ho
BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 01:16:48
June 17 2009 01:13 GMT
#25
so apparently cavs really want shaq..

I read an article saying it's a bad idea because it wasn't dwight howard that really killed the cavs it was the poor shooting from the supporting cast and the poor defense vs the orlando shooters. The guy also mentions that if they do take shaq it would be a problem during late games when they are all hacking away at him so he would miss free throws. I agreed at first but i was thinking that the cavs don't really need to feed it to shaq late in the 4th since opposing teams would have lebron to deal with and instead use shaq primarily for defense.

what do you guys think?
Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
June 17 2009 01:43 GMT
#26
Shaq cannot be bad for the Cavs. I don't think the Cavs defense will improve very much with him, but I'm positive their offense would, at least come playoff time. The Cavs run a terrible and slow offense that totally wastes Lebron's abilities, but that's probably not changing and Shaq + slow is like DeShawn Stevenson + terrible. The two just go together.

How many foul shots per game do you think a Shaq/Lebron team could average? I say 180.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
June 17 2009 02:00 GMT
#27
I don't know about it. It's not that Dwight Howard killed the Cavs... even though he was a problem, the main thing is that other than Lebron the team was playing like crap against an Orlando team that was on fire.

Jibba:

Well, they might TAKE that many, but as for the number they would actually make...
JoMal
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
June 17 2009 02:01 GMT
#28
Ariza the new Scottie Pippen !
Oh you mad cause i'm stylin on you
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
June 17 2009 02:05 GMT
#29
...why would they implement Shaq? They lost not because of Howard, they lost because they couldn't hit anything and the Magic hit everything in sight, they do need someone to go to for a reliable and solid possession besides Lebron in situations where their offense stalls, but that's not Shaq at this point.

Anyways, Hedo apparently wants 10 mil/season next season for playing shitty in the most important series of his life; guy doesn't realize how he fits into this system, and forgot how forgettable he played for the Kings.
Get it by your hands...
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
June 17 2009 02:06 GMT
#30
On June 17 2009 11:01 JoMal wrote:
Ariza the new Scottie Pippen !


Not even close. And these Lakers are not on the same level as those Bulls.
Get it by your hands...
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
June 17 2009 02:13 GMT
#31
On June 17 2009 09:58 KOFgokuon wrote:
i HATE those lebron puppet commercials
http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/kobe_bryant_puppet_finds
72AND10
Profile Joined January 2009
United States93 Posts
June 17 2009 02:21 GMT
#32
The commercial are okay. That article in the Onion is LOL though.

Currently, Ariza might be 1/10th the player Scottie was when he was playing
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 17 2009 02:23 GMT
#33
On June 17 2009 10:09 iLoveKT wrote:
bulls 09-10 champs! you heard it here first.

seriously though, Derrick Rose will break out next season. A decent trade or 2 for a big man and Chicago is set.


he already broke out this season but yes I am really hoping they go far in the playoffs. they're my 2nd favorite team.

Chicago has some serious problems though if they want to be a serious contender

Starting 5:
PG - Derrick Rose
SG - Ben Gordon
SF - Deng
PF - Thomas
C - Noah

Bench:
PG - Hinrich
SG - Salmons
SF - ??
PF - Tim Thomas
C - Miller

Alright. First of all, Chicago needs a strong Center. Secondly, they can't be very successful if Ben Gordon is their highets scorer. Ben Gordon's ideal role is as a 6th man, playing a Ginobli type role. Having someone who can give you 25 points on any given night off the bench is DANGEROUS. Joakim Noah isn't an NBA starter. He's one of those "energy" guys who is great coming off the bench to give you ~10 boards and a block or 2. Hinrich is an amazing backup PG, and Gordon would be a strong backup 2, Noah a backup center.

They really need an elite scorer and strong center before they can be a real contender in the East. Right now Chicago has a few great pieces, but mostly the makings of the best bench in the NBA (Hinrich, Gordon, Noah). If they build a strong group of starters around a nucleus of Rose and Deng they can become pretty powerful.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 17 2009 02:33 GMT
#34
Also... Chicago is gonna have about 8 million in cap space to play with... hopefully they can dump Brad Miller somewhere...
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
June 17 2009 02:46 GMT
#35
im not a laker fan, in fact i hate the lakers. BUT i think it would be great if they could keep their team together and go for another title run so some other team can end the run lol. it will be interesting to see how the play without phil jackson though (correct me if i'm wrong on that statement about phil not being around next season).
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
June 17 2009 02:47 GMT
#36
On June 17 2009 11:01 JoMal wrote:
Ariza the new Scottie Pippen !

hold it right there...
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
June 17 2009 03:04 GMT
#37
Ahahahaha we're such fucking junkies.
returns upon momentous occasions.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14908 Posts
June 17 2009 03:32 GMT
#38
yea.....
go us haha
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
June 17 2009 03:52 GMT
#39
On June 17 2009 11:05 Judicator wrote:
...why would they implement Shaq? They lost not because of Howard, they lost because they couldn't hit anything and the Magic hit everything in sight, they do need someone to go to for a reliable and solid possession besides Lebron in situations where their offense stalls, but that's not Shaq at this point.

Shaq averaged 18ppg and shot 61% last season. How does he not qualify as a reliable and solid possession? The Cavs don't even need him until the end of the year. They're basically guaranteed a seed in that division.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
June 17 2009 04:09 GMT
#40
Shaq moves to Cleveland. Phil Jackson opts out and becomes Lebron's coach. After winning the finals, Jackson answers in an interview, "I just wanted to clarify". Lebron answers, "Are you kidding, he always ends up coaching the best player in the league". Shaq says, "how my ass taste?".

David Stern dies of complications of having a month long orgasm.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 62 63 64 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
WardiTV Mondays #76
CranKy Ducklings98
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft342
RuFF_SC2 175
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 5629
Shuttle 341
sSak 56
NaDa 27
Bale 13
Dota 2
monkeys_forever510
Counter-Strike
taco 932
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1373
Other Games
summit1g10482
tarik_tv3850
Day[9].tv998
JimRising 372
C9.Mang0304
Maynarde120
ViBE98
WinterStarcraft33
CosmosSc2 20
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV65
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream40
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH74
• Hupsaiya 65
• davetesta42
• musti20045 22
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP3
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 37
• Azhi_Dahaki8
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21919
League of Legends
• Doublelift5184
Other Games
• Day9tv998
Upcoming Events
KCM Race Survival
7h 1m
The PondCast
8h 1m
WardiTV Team League
10h 1m
BASILISK vs Team Liquid
OSC
10h 1m
Replay Cast
22h 1m
WardiTV Team League
1d 10h
Big Brain Bouts
1d 15h
Fjant vs SortOf
YoungYakov vs Krystianer
Reynor vs HeRoMaRinE
RSL Revival
2 days
Cure vs Zoun
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Team League
2 days
Platinum Heroes Events
2 days
[ Show More ]
BSL
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
3 days
BSL
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
OSC
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Rush vs PianO
Flash vs Speed
Replay Cast
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
BeSt vs Leta
Queen vs Jaedong
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-24
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.