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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
January 12 2009 23:56 GMT
#21
teams migrating in CS is so L^O^L
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
January 13 2009 03:01 GMT
#22
Players or teams moving to different organizations is common.
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
January 13 2009 03:31 GMT
#23
Can't wait to see how will wemade do in 09 since the american 1.6 scene is back. pressure time for the Korean teams.
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51497 Posts
January 13 2009 05:18 GMT
#24
http://wemade-image.gscdn.com/fox/2008/sound/wemade_fox.mp3

oh yeh
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zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
January 13 2009 06:18 GMT
#25
On January 13 2009 12:31 Tekin wrote:
Can't wait to see how will wemade do in 09 since the american 1.6 scene is back. pressure time for the Korean teams.


Top level competition in CS is pretty random since the skill gap is so close that any team can win on any given day. Gravitas (previously known as Turmoil and x3o) beat eSTRO twice in both ESWC 2007 and 2008 by a large margin (16-5 or something like that). American teams aren't really on the same level as the Europeans since most of the former CS 1.6 players are coming back from CGS and they need time to get back into shape. Right now, the Americans aren't really a threat, but x3o (previously known as Paragon of Virtue and they won against mTw in one of the ESL events) has been playing very well in American online leagues so far.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10803 Posts
January 13 2009 18:46 GMT
#26
I sometimes watched pretty high level of CS... on Lans and on the I-Net.


And have to ask:
Is there anything more boring? :p.


All respect to the players but as a spectator sport it's really... ugh...
anTi_
Profile Joined October 2008
United States499 Posts
January 13 2009 19:13 GMT
#27
On January 13 2009 07:50 Comeh wrote:
Woop. I'm hoping cs stays alive and well :D (i just scrimmed like 10 times yesterday...it's fun to be back :D) Time to start supporting gotfrag again . (I'm curious whether EG [Probably the US's best 1.6 team] can really compete at the international level...I'm thinking yes.)


gotfrag was bought off by MLG and all the good writers and staff left. Only use for the site is hltv's, which you can get from hltv.org too. so that website is in pretty bad shape atm.
www.thevapeapes.com
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
January 13 2009 22:50 GMT
#28
On January 14 2009 04:13 anTi_ wrote:
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On January 13 2009 07:50 Comeh wrote:
Woop. I'm hoping cs stays alive and well :D (i just scrimmed like 10 times yesterday...it's fun to be back :D) Time to start supporting gotfrag again . (I'm curious whether EG [Probably the US's best 1.6 team] can really compete at the international level...I'm thinking yes.)


gotfrag was bought off by MLG and all the good writers and staff left. Only use for the site is hltv's, which you can get from hltv.org too. so that website is in pretty bad shape atm.


with a lot of trolls :D
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
frankbg
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada335 Posts
January 13 2009 23:53 GMT
#29
yeah, gotfrag sucks nowadays
okramv
Profile Joined November 2012
Cuba30 Posts
October 11 2014 17:27 GMT
#30
what happened to the eSTRO, WMF teams, what made them quit esports?
youtube.com/user/vanillafeature (mostly CS higlights)
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
October 14 2014 13:23 GMT
#31
On October 12 2014 02:27 okramv wrote:
what happened to the eSTRO, WMF teams, what made them quit esports?

As far as I know because of the matchfixing in broodwar
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8763 Posts
October 14 2014 13:54 GMT
#32
matchfixing is the easy way out of explaining it
the most blunt reason is simply there was no financial benefit for the companies that sponsored these teams.
shame really, especially with the cs team. solo was such a sick player
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51497 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-14 14:36:10
October 14 2014 14:34 GMT
#33
i believe some players like solo, bail etc still play cs:o because nexon still have tournaments for it in korea but i don't think there's a market for cs:go in korea right now which is a huge shame as i'd love to see solo in the current meta

just imagine a korean dream team of enemy, solo, mal, glow and bail.
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sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
October 14 2014 14:44 GMT
#34
On October 14 2014 23:34 GTR wrote:
i believe some players like solo, bail etc still play cs:o because nexon still have tournaments for it in korea but i don't think there's a market for cs:go in korea right now which is a huge shame as i'd love to see solo in the current meta

just imagine a korean dream team of enemy, solo, mal, glow and bail.

I am a complete noob when it comes down to the old cs games, could you maby give a me a comarison to cs:go/sc?
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
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