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Signet
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1718 Posts
November 03 2008 17:12 GMT
#441
On November 03 2008 07:14 Try wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2008 06:59 Live2Win wrote:
So AP polls are out

1. Bama
2. TT
3. Penn
4. Florida
5. Texas

I'm just hoping Bama stays up there so that when we play them in the SEC CG it'll help our chances to get into the BCS CG


You go to UF?

Sorry to you guys, but voters adore JoePa and would take him over an one-loss Florida.


Yeah but if Tech loses, it could be Florida vs Penn State.
tomash6
Profile Joined March 2006
7 Posts
November 03 2008 19:34 GMT
#442
On November 03 2008 06:52 Try wrote:
Texas probably put Blake Gideon on suicide watch. They need to rework the teams in the Big 12, so that its an East-West Big 12 rather than a North South. I'm tired of seeing teams get screwed and blowouts in the Big 12 Title Game.


You're definitely right this year, as the South has 4 teams that I would take over the best North team. However, there was a time when Nebraska and Colorado (and even K-State) were good teams. Any way you divide it, it won't be perfect in the future, since teams could become resurgent or just drop off for a while.

I'm hoping we get as many 1-loss teams as possible so that the BCS system looks bad yet again, and they finally replace it with some sort of playoffs. I'm not sure how big the playoffs should be; 16 teams might be too much and 4 might not be enough. There has to be a better system than the current one though.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
November 03 2008 19:51 GMT
#443
Your bring to hard on Penn State, from their schedule they shouldn't be in the title game (Imo texas and Florida are the most impressive or OU or TT) but they have been a good solid team all year and I bet they would do 100x better then OSU because OSU is good but they choke pretty bad when its on the line IE the NC game.
Never Knows Best.
Signet
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1718 Posts
November 03 2008 19:56 GMT
#444
On November 04 2008 04:34 tomash6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2008 06:52 Try wrote:
Texas probably put Blake Gideon on suicide watch. They need to rework the teams in the Big 12, so that its an East-West Big 12 rather than a North South. I'm tired of seeing teams get screwed and blowouts in the Big 12 Title Game.


You're definitely right this year, as the South has 4 teams that I would take over the best North team. However, there was a time when Nebraska and Colorado (and even K-State) were good teams. Any way you divide it, it won't be perfect in the future, since teams could become resurgent or just drop off for a while.

I'm hoping we get as many 1-loss teams as possible so that the BCS system looks bad yet again, and they finally replace it with some sort of playoffs. I'm not sure how big the playoffs should be; 16 teams might be too much and 4 might not be enough. There has to be a better system than the current one though.


I do think that when you're getting to the point of having 16 teams in a playoff, some of the meaningfulness of the regular season is lost. I personally don't care and would love to see a big, exciting playoff like this, but I can see the other side's argument here.

On the other hand, when Auburn can go 13-0 and win the toughest conference and not even get to play for the title, the meaningfulness of the regular season is lost under the current system!

Four team would be good enough almost all the time. By the time you're #5, there's not much argument that you are the #1 team. Sure there will always be controversy over who gets that last spot, but you won't have a situation where a major unbeaten team is left out.

Six (top two get a bye) or eight (all 6 conference champs plus 2 at large) would also be really fun to watch; I have no objection to getting to watch more good football
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
November 03 2008 21:39 GMT
#445
On November 04 2008 04:56 Signet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2008 04:34 tomash6 wrote:
On November 03 2008 06:52 Try wrote:
Texas probably put Blake Gideon on suicide watch. They need to rework the teams in the Big 12, so that its an East-West Big 12 rather than a North South. I'm tired of seeing teams get screwed and blowouts in the Big 12 Title Game.


You're definitely right this year, as the South has 4 teams that I would take over the best North team. However, there was a time when Nebraska and Colorado (and even K-State) were good teams. Any way you divide it, it won't be perfect in the future, since teams could become resurgent or just drop off for a while.

I'm hoping we get as many 1-loss teams as possible so that the BCS system looks bad yet again, and they finally replace it with some sort of playoffs. I'm not sure how big the playoffs should be; 16 teams might be too much and 4 might not be enough. There has to be a better system than the current one though.


I do think that when you're getting to the point of having 16 teams in a playoff, some of the meaningfulness of the regular season is lost. I personally don't care and would love to see a big, exciting playoff like this, but I can see the other side's argument here.

On the other hand, when Auburn can go 13-0 and win the toughest conference and not even get to play for the title, the meaningfulness of the regular season is lost under the current system!

Four team would be good enough almost all the time. By the time you're #5, there's not much argument that you are the #1 team. Sure there will always be controversy over who gets that last spot, but you won't have a situation where a major unbeaten team is left out.

Six (top two get a bye) or eight (all 6 conference champs plus 2 at large) would also be really fun to watch; I have no objection to getting to watch more good football



I don't get how the regular season's meaning is lost if you need to do well to get into the playoffs? It's not like it's an 82 game season like hockey. Every game will still count.
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Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
November 04 2008 15:34 GMT
#446
Fulmer leaves Tennessee... Hopefully, they won't go after Mike Leach. Please stay at Texas Tech.
Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
November 04 2008 15:40 GMT
#447
On November 04 2008 02:12 Signet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2008 07:14 Try wrote:
On November 03 2008 06:59 Live2Win wrote:
So AP polls are out

1. Bama
2. TT
3. Penn
4. Florida
5. Texas

I'm just hoping Bama stays up there so that when we play them in the SEC CG it'll help our chances to get into the BCS CG


You go to UF?

Sorry to you guys, but voters adore JoePa and would take him over an one-loss Florida.


Yeah but if Tech loses, it could be Florida vs Penn State.


O god... PLEASE no UF vs Penn State, it would be slaughter.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
November 04 2008 15:42 GMT
#448
Why would they make the Texas Tech's coach leave? I feel bad for coach fulmer, he had one bad season and now they're firing him?? his records like 150-51, I think thats pretty good.
Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
November 04 2008 15:45 GMT
#449
On November 05 2008 00:42 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Why would they make the Texas Tech's coach leave? I feel bad for coach fulmer, he had one bad season and now they're firing him?? his records like 150-51, I think thats pretty good.


As in hopefully Tennessee won't try to hire Mike Leach, one of the best practical options for Tenn. They dream of getting Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, Jon Gruden or Pete Carroll, but that's just not going to happen. The other practical options for Tenn are Muschamp (who got his ass handed to him by Leach's offense), Gary Patterson, and a couple others. I believe that Leach will be at the top of their list if he keeps winning.
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10835 Posts
November 04 2008 16:23 GMT
#450
so if USC gets 5 shutouts in a single season (3 so far already, and 2 more could be possible with UCLA and maybe ND or Stanford), do you think that gives them a case to jump over the other 1-loss teams? obviously strength of schedule would be going against USC.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
November 04 2008 16:30 GMT
#451
On November 05 2008 01:23 LosingID8 wrote:
so if USC gets 5 shutouts in a single season (3 so far already, and 2 more could be possible with UCLA and maybe ND or Stanford), do you think that gives them a case to jump over the other 1-loss teams? obviously strength of schedule would be going against USC.


No way.

Those three shutouts, the teams have a combined total of three wins. The hardest team they face now is Cal, which is pretty mediocre this year, imo. They beat a very overrated Ohio State team, and then choked big time. People will point to ND, but they're a joke and have beaten nobodys. If they actually faced a quality opponent in the last few weeks, I'd say maybe, but a 1 loss team from the SEC or Big 12 should get in over them without a doubt.
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Signet
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1718 Posts
November 04 2008 16:34 GMT
#452
On November 04 2008 06:39 Hawk wrote:
I don't get how the regular season's meaning is lost if you need to do well to get into the playoffs? It's not like it's an 82 game season like hockey. Every game will still count.


That's the way I feel too. The NHL regular season isn't all that important because 16 out of 30 teams make it - over half the teams! There's 119 FBS football teams. Being in the top 8 or top 16 is still quite an accomplishment.
Signet
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1718 Posts
November 04 2008 16:41 GMT
#453
On November 05 2008 00:40 Try wrote:
O god... PLEASE no UF vs Penn State, it would be slaughter.


I'd LOVE to see an SEC vs Big 12 matchup. But realistically, I don't think Texas Tech is going to beat Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, and Missouri (B12 championship). Too many strong opponents in a month - if they even play a bad half (like Texas did) they'll lose one of those.

My feeling is that PSU will get slaughtered by Florida or any of the Big 12 contenders. With Alabama there's the chance of a close game (maybe...) but even then it'd be like watching the LSU-Oklahoma Sugar Bowl.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
November 04 2008 16:43 GMT
#454
Yeah, it's a different style game. Everything about the NHL is designed to be a marathon, and personally, I like it (but I am a hockey nut, so I digress =p)

Haha, even obama said yesterday on that MNF interview that he hates the BCS.
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Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
November 04 2008 17:29 GMT
#455
Obama supports a playoff system!!! Hopefully it would be the first piece of legislation he enacts in Congress.
Signet
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1718 Posts
November 04 2008 17:59 GMT
#456
That would be pretty awesome.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
November 04 2008 18:22 GMT
#457
I would laugh my ass of if Penn State makes the title game and wins over UF or TT or Alabama or whoever, just to stop the stupid "well its obvious Penn State sucks because the Big Ten is having a down year LOL LOGIC"
Never Knows Best.
XoXiDe
Profile Joined September 2006
United States620 Posts
November 04 2008 18:22 GMT
#458
fuk texas losing, i almost cried
TEXAN
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
November 04 2008 19:42 GMT
#459
An 8 team playoff would be great. It's only three extra weeks... and some teams that might not get a shot at the title otherwise (read: undefeated teams in wank conferences, teams that are in conferences that are very strong), but probably deserve a shot would get a chance.

The polls are ridiculous... hey, Texas lost a game in the last minute of the game to a highly ranked opponent on the road... let's put USC and Florida above them! And Oklahoma for good measure. Granted this was just the USA Today poll, but seriously... coaches are on something.

Meanwhile Mizzou is back to their old ways... let's not just lose to ranked opponents, let's almost drop a game to Baylor! Whee! On the other hand, it is kind of comforting they are back to their old ways...
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
November 04 2008 20:18 GMT
#460
On November 05 2008 01:23 LosingID8 wrote:
so if USC gets 5 shutouts in a single season (3 so far already, and 2 more could be possible with UCLA and maybe ND or Stanford), do you think that gives them a case to jump over the other 1-loss teams? obviously strength of schedule would be going against USC.

UCLA sucks really bad this year and even a shutout wouldn't be that great for a team like USC. My number 15 BYU Cougars shut them out by 60 points in the early season and then the Utah Utes defeated them 44-6 like a couple weeks later. USC defeating them is guaranteed, a shutout wouldnt be surprising at all. I know how you feel man BYU has a fairly laid back schedule this year and when they ran into TCU it killed our BCS dreams and Max Halls Heisman dreams.
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