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(14:21:32) (@fubarduck) also apparently Daigo is very attracted to the idea of traveling abroad for tourneys now
(14:21:33) (@TINISTEr) he might open up a new one
(14:21:40) (@fubarduck) I know for sure that in addition to SB4 this year
(14:21:49) (@fubarduck) he will be attending at least 2 US tournaments in 2010
(14:21:59) (kensk) he should go to NEC
(14:22:04) (@TINISTEr) man that is random that he wanted to come through
(14:22:21) (@TINISTEr) to SB4 like that is just ????????? to me
(14:22:25) (@fubarduck) I think Arcadia is sponsoring him
(14:22:28) (@TINISTEr) ahhh
(14:22:28) (kensk) hes p famous here
(14:22:33) (@fubarduck) to keep SF4 hype high
(14:22:34) (kensk) and the money is worth it
(14:22:46) (SayaSP) ^
(14:22:50) (SayaSP) sup pplz
(14:22:51) (@TINISTEr) and sponsoring mago too?
(14:23:00) (SayaSP) mago going to sb4?
(14:23:04) (kensk) lol id love to see mago
(14:23:10) (@TINISTEr) thats what I heard
(14:23:18) (kensk) id be hounding his matches w/ a camera
(14:23:18) (@fubarduck) SB4 gonna be off the wall
(14:23:21) (kensk) so fuckin hard
(14:23:27) (@fubarduck) "hey bitch you can't tell me "no video" now"
(14:23:32) (@fubarduck) "we in America"
(14:23:36) (@TINISTEr) I just wanna battle daigo
(14:23:47) (kensk) lol
(14:23:49) (SayaSP) tinisterrrrrr
(14:23:52) (kensk) if he really didnt want them recorded
(14:23:53) (SayaSP) :D
(14:23:53) (kensk) id oblige
(14:23:56) (kensk) if he said something
(14:24:36) (@TINISTEr) To be honest I think I have a chance at doing some type of damage to him
(14:24:44) (@TINISTEr) since blanka counters ryu
(14:25:17) (@fubarduck) hope you know the matchup
(14:25:22) (@TINISTEr) oh yes I do
(14:25:33) (kensk) i hope you know the daigo matchup
(14:25:43) (@fubarduck) i thought i knew matchups until I played at Big Box
(14:26:13) (@fubarduck) how was I supposed to know that Ryu could low MK on wakeup to make crossup hurricane kick whiff, then short short uppercut FADC ultra
(14:26:31) (SayaSP) wow ryan
(14:26:31) (kensk) hahaha
(14:26:32) (SayaSP) thats fucked up
(14:26:33) (SayaSP) lol
(14:26:37) (@fubarduck) exactly
(14:26:37) (kensk) thats sick
(14:26:41) (kensk) c.MK is godlike with ryu
(14:26:41) (@fubarduck) you dont know jack
(14:26:46) (@fubarduck) until you played those guys
(14:26:49) (@TINISTEr) ryan like to be honest I played a lot of ryus from scrubby to very smart
(14:26:59) (@TINISTEr) and like I am sure he will show me some new shit
(14:27:05) (kensk) tinshi vs daigo mm
(14:27:06) (kensk) lets go
(14:27:15) (@TINISTEr) but I def wont pull some drchaos bulshit
(14:27:24) (@TINISTEr) cuz that match was sad
(14:27:32) (WorkTomic) change the topic
(14:27:37) (@fubarduck) i understand akuma a lot better now
(14:27:37) (@_DS_) is this the make a wish foundation? daigo doesn't donate
(14:27:38) (WorkTomic) tinshi > daigo FREE
(14:27:43) (@fubarduck) i think he is riskier than we thought originally
(14:27:55) (@TINISTEr) I think so too ryan
(14:27:56) (@fubarduck) definitely not #1. a close 2nd or 3rd though
(14:28:01) (@fubarduck) sagat is #1
(14:28:04) (@_DS_) issei akuma
(14:28:08) (kensk) how do jap sagats do it
(14:28:08) (@_DS_) akuma is S-tier
(14:28:13) (kensk) theres is a secret formula
(14:28:15) (kensk) i am missing
(14:28:23) (@fubarduck) kensk, the formula is they actually kara cancel stuff
(14:28:25) (SayaSP) henaki juice
(14:28:28) (@TINISTEr) low jab ken lol
(14:28:38) (kensk) kara knee
(14:28:39) (@fubarduck) mago would punish certain minus frame moves with kara uppercut
(14:28:44) (@fubarduck) kara knee to punish midscreen backdash
(14:28:45) (kensk) WTF
(14:28:45) (@fubarduck) etc
(14:28:46) (kensk) like what
(14:28:56) (@TINISTEr) prob sweep
(14:28:58) (@fubarduck) kara fireball to throw off your timing of jumps
(14:29:03) (@TINISTEr) and like far range pokes
(14:29:13) (@fubarduck) his sagat made american sagat look so shitty
(14:29:19) (kensk) fubar what would he hit with kara uppercut
(14:29:32) (@TINISTEr) prob a sweep on lblock at max range
(14:29:41) (@fubarduck) various stuff
(14:29:59) (@TINISTEr) or like if you move after he shot a fireball
(14:30:17) (@fubarduck) right
(14:30:21) (@fubarduck) you can make the uppercuts seem hella random
(14:30:25) (@TINISTEr) like bullshit traps
(14:30:30) (@TINISTEr) I been playing a lot of sagat
(14:30:34) (@fubarduck) like fireball midscreen, kara upper FADC hit ocnfirm
(14:30:39) (@TINISTEr) and all it is like is frames
(14:30:47) (SayaSP) wow
(14:30:50) (SayaSP) mago is crazy
(14:30:51) (@TINISTEr) each tiger shot gives a lot of different frames
(14:30:57) (kensk) fubar using that as an AA
(14:31:05) (kensk) or like a punish to them going through the FB
(14:31:08) (@TINISTEr) like high tiger shot being the fastest and gives the most frames
(14:31:21) (@fubarduck) right i mean you get the possibilities now
(14:31:35) (kensk) ok
(14:31:39) (@TINISTEr) And high jab tiger shot is broken
(14:31:41) (@TINISTEr) I swear
(14:31:43) (kensk) i mean i was just trying to understand the "idea" behind using it
(14:31:55) (@TINISTEr) it slike super fucking slow
(14:31:56) (@fubarduck) its the same idea in kara cancelling ORo fireballs in 3S
(14:32:01) (@fubarduck) and dragon punches
(14:32:02) (@TINISTEr) yup
(14:32:05) (@fubarduck) it extends the range like crazy
(14:32:07) (kensk) i dont play oro
(14:32:08) (@fubarduck) and makes the char more random
(14:32:11) (@TINISTEr) kara fireball thats the shit
(14:32:12) (kensk) ah ok
(14:32:20) (@TINISTEr) makes people not parry my fireballs
(14:32:27) (@TINISTEr) its oops too fast
(14:32:30) (@fubarduck) right
(14:32:38) (@TINISTEr) and his fireball does stun
(14:32:41) (@TINISTEr) lol so cheap
(14:32:43) (@fubarduck) basically midscreen FB you can focus/react right
(14:32:48) (@fubarduck) but not midscreen kara FB
(14:32:58) (@fubarduck) also, you can't just backdash to widen the distance
(14:32:58) (@TINISTEr) kara fireball antiair
(14:33:01) (@TINISTEr) is sexy
(14:33:02) (@fubarduck) he might randomly kara tiger knee
(14:33:04) (kensk) kara FB is hard with HK kara
(14:33:20) (@TINISTEr) if done with the short tiger its perfect
(14:33:25) (kensk) fubar random kar aknee seem unsafe
(14:33:25) (@TINISTEr) tiger shot
(14:33:26) (kensk) lol
(14:33:38) (@TINISTEr) do the short version or medium
(14:33:50) (@TINISTEr) never go for like roundhouse version
(14:34:03) (@TINISTEr) like short version for whiff and spacing
(14:34:09) (@TINISTEr) and medium for contact
(14:34:25) (@TINISTEr) but like you got to still space it right
(14:34:39) (@TINISTEr) tifer knee too deep in and its
(14:34:45) (@TINISTEr) eat a random combo
(14:34:56) (@TINISTEr) if your blanka FAT Ultra
(14:35:51) (SayaSP) oh
(14:35:52) (SayaSP) wow
(14:36:02) (SayaSP) after reading what you guys are saying about him
(14:36:06) (SayaSP) i atched random mago match
(14:36:09) (SayaSP) he does all of that shit
(14:36:09) (SayaSP) omg
(14:36:30) (@TINISTEr) also
(14:36:37) (@TINISTEr) down fierce is amazing
(14:36:45) (SayaSP) sagat?
(14:36:46) (@TINISTEr) 0 on block
(14:36:48) (@TINISTEr) yes
(14:36:49) (SayaSP) wow
(14:36:50) (SayaSP) wtf
(14:36:52) (@TINISTEr) and like
(14:37:00) (@TINISTEr) it has ok retraction
(14:37:06) (@TINISTEr) and like if counter hit
(14:37:10) (@TINISTEr) free uppercut
(14:37:28) (@TINISTEr) or you can just down fierce again if counter hit anyway
(14:37:33) (@TINISTEr) to push them out
(14:37:44) (@TINISTEr) nerdjosh was using some of it on me
(14:38:01) (@TINISTEr) it was gay cuz it was killing my footsie game
(14:38:13) (@TINISTEr) and like I never got it used on me in tourney before
(14:38:36) (@TINISTEr) so I was like shocked
(14:39:24) (@TINISTEr) but like space at max range to keep nice
(14:39:44) (@TINISTEr) but like I think low jab really does the trick with sagat
(14:39:47) (kensk) you cant combo into uppercut at max range
(14:40:06) (kensk) best range is like so the whole fist enters their body
(14:40:15) (kensk) like c.MP's best range
(14:40:26) (kensk) you get the CH combo but least risk of getting hit out of it
(14:40:54) (@TINISTEr) just do down fierce to get them out of your face
(14:41:04) (@TINISTEr) its to keep them from being in
(14:41:05) (kensk) it has 8f startup
(14:41:12) (@TINISTEr) but has priority
(14:41:19) (@TINISTEr) and nails lows
(14:41:31) (kensk) i know its silly to use it to "get them out of your face" its to keep them out and a frame trap, thats kinda it
(14:41:41) (@TINISTEr) thats useful
(14:41:49) (kensk) yea
(14:42:02) (kensk) i mean most times you wont be at that range w/ sag imo
(14:42:03) (@TINISTEr) like I could approach nerdjosh because of that move