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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
June 10 2009 22:57 GMT
#8421
i'm thinking of making another poll :D

but i dont play much anymore so i dono :<
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Antifate
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States415 Posts
June 11 2009 02:53 GMT
#8422
Oh shit, you can Force Staff people into ditches? Oh lawd.

Force Staff so imba.
No one is taller than the last man standing.
TL-GazeRocker
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada61 Posts
June 11 2009 04:23 GMT
#8423
I hereby announce this day to be claimed as "The Riki Day" as I am no longer single anymore ^_^...and with this, a song obviously!

[image loading]
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
June 11 2009 04:32 GMT
#8424
You got that Jan girl? =]
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
June 11 2009 04:32 GMT
#8425
On June 11 2009 07:57 paper wrote:
i'm thinking of making another poll :D

but i dont play much anymore so i dono :<


do it do it do it
UNFUCK YOURSELF
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
June 11 2009 04:34 GMT
#8426
Riki got his girl!!!!
That means every shitty love song is going to sound great to him!
Congrats!!! =]
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
TheMusiC
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1054 Posts
June 11 2009 05:00 GMT
#8427
of all places you chose the tl.net dota thread to announce it. i feel the love baby, i feel the love
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
June 11 2009 05:45 GMT
#8428
On June 11 2009 06:04 takemenow909 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2009 03:34 Alventenie wrote:
Really this patch did not make any one hero completely imba at all. Its not like when pirate was released and he was team killing everyone with his ult + torrent + swinging twice. Most of the heroes are balanced (due to the long beta) and no new item is a must have item. This patch really was thorough and didn't bring alot of imba things to the table. I could see both TC and batrider used in line ups, but until they are played more often its hard to say how great they will be.

tbh i think cheftain could be really imba..owned few games solo mid on euro hlr1. if u get them into ult that 35%hp loss + slow is big thing...+ low cd. the main problem is u need a mass disabler in team fight or a initialiser in a gang so u can spirit + stun freelly and usually u get 2+ enemies . then just ult and it's gg

been thinking at a blink spirit+stun in a big battle but that requires a bkb mostly, or a mass disabler before.

btw do u think that stun really really lasts for 5 sec? sometimes it does, sometimes it seems to me that i get to my target, and stun is gone...mb some shitty bug



Not even, as playing against him all last night in inhouses he is not imba. His ult is easily dodged (it takes like 3-4 seconds to actually cast), his ghost is not that much of a threat and his aoe stun is easily dodged (takes 2 seconds to cast, and does low damage, + breaks on any hero damage done to you). Hes a str hero, so his mana pool wont be large enough to cast most of his spells multiple times over in a fight, meaning you dodge his ult and hes going to lose alot of damage.

takemenow909
Profile Joined May 2006
92 Posts
June 11 2009 06:49 GMT
#8429
well yea, many players dodged that ult but that's the point of the first stun..in mosts gangs where u come from mid you get BEHIND them, summon spirit then stun. you either get stunned and fail, or they have to either go back and get stunned by u or go in the other direction, where your teammates are. anyway the idea was that if you manage to stun them with the spirit you can't miss ulti
geegee
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-11 22:29:58
June 11 2009 07:16 GMT
#8430
someone needs to make a omg mode pt2 where you only get ults rofl

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StaticAshes
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada10 Posts
June 11 2009 14:26 GMT
#8431
for those who want to change their hotkeys, use this link http://www.drjones.dk/customkeys/generator.php#

I tested it and it worked fine except for naix's wounds (duno code), invoker skills (able to add them into custom keys.txt later) and TA's refraction. (duno code)
AHHHH
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-11 18:25:20
June 11 2009 18:03 GMT
#8432
On June 11 2009 14:45 Alventenie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2009 06:04 takemenow909 wrote:
On June 11 2009 03:34 Alventenie wrote:
Really this patch did not make any one hero completely imba at all. Its not like when pirate was released and he was team killing everyone with his ult + torrent + swinging twice. Most of the heroes are balanced (due to the long beta) and no new item is a must have item. This patch really was thorough and didn't bring alot of imba things to the table. I could see both TC and batrider used in line ups, but until they are played more often its hard to say how great they will be.

tbh i think cheftain could be really imba..owned few games solo mid on euro hlr1. if u get them into ult that 35%hp loss + slow is big thing...+ low cd. the main problem is u need a mass disabler in team fight or a initialiser in a gang so u can spirit + stun freelly and usually u get 2+ enemies . then just ult and it's gg

been thinking at a blink spirit+stun in a big battle but that requires a bkb mostly, or a mass disabler before.

btw do u think that stun really really lasts for 5 sec? sometimes it does, sometimes it seems to me that i get to my target, and stun is gone...mb some shitty bug



Not even, as playing against him all last night in inhouses he is not imba. His ult is easily dodged (it takes like 3-4 seconds to actually cast), his ghost is not that much of a threat and his aoe stun is easily dodged (takes 2 seconds to cast, and does low damage, + breaks on any hero damage done to you). Hes a str hero, so his mana pool wont be large enough to cast most of his spells multiple times over in a fight, meaning you dodge his ult and hes going to lose alot of damage.



Actually, his mana pool is rather big. And you can also stun with the ghost (it does whatever you do), so that is a plus also. And if you have someone like enigma, or void, or axe, or lesh or lina or dark seer or whatever to get 2-3 people grouping for the ult, they're toast. Not to mention it's very good in defense-mode, since the range is huge and you know where they'll be pushing, or when pushing yourself and the other team is defending around the tower.

The huge range and powerful effects make up for the casting time, and the strength and large mp make up for the rest (slow stun, etc).

I think it's a far better hero than the batrider (at least team-wise) and if you'll give it one week till people get the hang of him, I think you'll change your opinion drastically.

Edit: ok my post was not convincing enough:

The ult only takes that long because the path has to form, but if you aim it right and the enemy is towards the end of the path, then it only gives them one second to react until it goes off, and the CDs for his ulti/stun and ghost are really small. Also, purist is STR hero too, yet people almost always build inteli stuff on him. You can do the same with tauren, but use more of a mid-long range caster. That level 3 ult is a real bitch.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
June 11 2009 21:31 GMT
#8433
Played a pub, didn't get any lag spikes at all :/
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 11 2009 22:12 GMT
#8434
maybe it was Devas noob connection that did you in
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
June 11 2009 23:07 GMT
#8435
So any1 think razor imba?
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
June 12 2009 01:51 GMT
#8436
gaz needs to post pix
Hates Fun🤔
TL-GazeRocker
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada61 Posts
June 12 2009 04:00 GMT
#8437
Love is in the air ^o^
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
June 12 2009 08:19 GMT
#8438
i give it two weeks
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Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
June 12 2009 08:24 GMT
#8439
that's being generous. the pull of dota outweighs the pull of his gf, i give him three days.
@QxGDarkCell ._.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
June 12 2009 11:01 GMT
#8440
What if, HE LIED
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
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