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tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
April 30 2011 02:43 GMT
#25321
On April 30 2011 11:36 alia wrote:
Streaming dcihl games if anyone cares.

yo can you vouch me for dcihl
im p good
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
alia
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States294 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-30 03:57:20
April 30 2011 03:37 GMT
#25322
On April 30 2011 11:43 tube wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2011 11:36 alia wrote:
Streaming dcihl games if anyone cares.

yo can you vouch me for dcihl
im p good

I have no authority over the vouch process.

Edit: Didn't get into the second game so gonna pub with some friends.

Edit 2: Going to stream SC2 since my friend's internet is bad.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
April 30 2011 03:38 GMT
#25323
Honestly the tp change is tiny.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-30 03:43:20
April 30 2011 03:39 GMT
#25324
On April 30 2011 11:00 paper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2011 07:10 D8ms wrote:
Funner Fact: Using the word "metagame" is viable in the current competitive metagame.


Metagame implies there are no optimal strategies (as the game has evolved to a very high level and you need external, metagame inputs to win) and that "sub-optimal" strategies (under other circumstances) become highly effective in countering strategies previously regarded as reigning supreme.

You said it yourself: if there's a shift toward "push-oriented" (meaning that these kinds of strats are optimal) there is no metagame anymore.

Silly D8ms, just use the words 'game' or 'gameplay' instead

The strategic phenomena that characterize events that also otherwise known as "metagame" cannot be explicitly surmised to be affected by such a differential without a sound argument for the existence of such, as well as a sufficient body of evidence. Making assumptions such as these tell us that not only do you not actually understand what the "metagame" actually is, let alone the game, but that you come up with generalized explanations to determine a characterization of the differential on the so called "metagame" for the purpose of legitimizing an opinion because the "metagame" at this moment in time cannot be objectively discretized [1]. As such, statements in the manner such as to say something about the "metagame" without its establishment, are insubstantial, irrelevant, and should be discarded.

[1] see paper 25319




thug life.
- Tupac Shakur*

* edit
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-30 03:45:01
April 30 2011 03:44 GMT
#25325
On April 30 2011 12:37 alia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2011 11:43 tube wrote:
On April 30 2011 11:36 alia wrote:
Streaming dcihl games if anyone cares.

yo can you vouch me for dcihl
im p good

I have no authority over the vouch process.

Edit: Didn't get into the second game so gonna pub with some friends.

how should i get vouched then?

like i dont really know how it works
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
alia
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States294 Posts
April 30 2011 03:52 GMT
#25326
You need to apply for a vouch on the dc forums. Your application should include a couple of replays of scrims / clanwars in -cm/-cd mode showing that you know how to do your role well / have good game sense. If you don't have people that know you well enough, then you'll probably have to join a vouch game in addition to posting a vouch request.
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
April 30 2011 17:38 GMT
#25327
crap where am i supposed to play -cm -cd games
i'm not in a team or scrim or anything lol
and as soon as i got vouched for nadl and thr t3 nadl died and t3 is completely inactive
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
Dacendoran
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States825 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-30 18:04:35
April 30 2011 17:53 GMT
#25328
Testie is streaming hon qhttp://www.gamereplays.org/heroesofnewerth//angrytestie/'. =o
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
April 30 2011 17:57 GMT
#25329
jesus testie's been streaming for like 20 hours straight now
alia
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States294 Posts
April 30 2011 19:16 GMT
#25330
On May 01 2011 02:38 tube wrote:
crap where am i supposed to play -cm -cd games
i'm not in a team or scrim or anything lol
and as soon as i got vouched for nadl and thr t3 nadl died and t3 is completely inactive

Add me on skype and I'll message you if I need a ringer. You can get replays that way.

Skype: idontwanttostop
alia
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States294 Posts
May 01 2011 00:32 GMT
#25331
Streaming dcihl, if this game fills with one more person. ~_~
flyN
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada48 Posts
May 01 2011 01:55 GMT
#25332
anyone wanna grind mmr 1400+ i cannot get him up getting match with feeders :S
JohnQPublic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States123 Posts
May 01 2011 13:06 GMT
#25333
On May 01 2011 10:55 flyN wrote:
anyone wanna grind mmr 1400+ i cannot get him up getting match with feeders :S

I am looking to boost my mmr a bit. I went from 1680 to 1595 in the last few days and the lower you go the more retards that you cant carry you seem to get. Also if anyone could throw me a clan invite that would be great.

name is : Guidedk
non sum qualis eram
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
May 01 2011 18:44 GMT
#25334
Don't you think if your mmr goes down it's your fault? If you really are as good as you say your mmr will naturally go up to where it should be. Bad teammates do happen but remember the other team is equally likely to get them so given enough games you should be where you deserve to be
flyN
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada48 Posts
May 01 2011 20:27 GMT
#25335
On May 02 2011 03:44 GhostKorean wrote:
Don't you think if your mmr goes down it's your fault? If you really are as good as you say your mmr will naturally go up to where it should be. Bad teammates do happen but remember the other team is equally likely to get them so given enough games you should be where you deserve to be

not really when u have griefers in ur team that feed on purpose by using nymph ult in fontain and nobody want to kick them cause they all agree on that nothing you can do really
lepape
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada557 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 20:32:11
May 01 2011 20:30 GMT
#25336
On May 02 2011 05:27 flyN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 03:44 GhostKorean wrote:
Don't you think if your mmr goes down it's your fault? If you really are as good as you say your mmr will naturally go up to where it should be. Bad teammates do happen but remember the other team is equally likely to get them so given enough games you should be where you deserve to be

not really when u have griefers in ur team that feed on purpose by using nymph ult in fontain and nobody want to kick them cause they all agree on that nothing you can do really


Yes, but after you play a good ammount of games, assuming you never ruin the game yourself, the chance the opposite team has griefers is higher than the chance you have griefers in your own team.

Of course, you only remember when it happened to you, but I assure you there's also quite a few games that you won ''for free''.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 20:33:48
May 01 2011 20:31 GMT
#25337
On May 02 2011 03:44 GhostKorean wrote:
Don't you think if your mmr goes down it's your fault? If you really are as good as you say your mmr will naturally go up to where it should be. Bad teammates do happen but remember the other team is equally likely to get them so given enough games you should be where you deserve to be


short term nah
long-term you have a point
but sometimes shit just happens
i recall losing 8 games in a row (a fair amount of mmr), where 7 of those were 4v5's since the start (d/c on our side, no remake), and 1 was a stunning display of feeding of a sidelane (so that their duo lane chars were both outlevelling our solo)

edit: oh yeah, the 9th game, that we won, was also a 4v5 since the start. felt exceptionally good to win that; nevertheless, there was some serious S2 server hate coming my way that day.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 01 2011 20:50 GMT
#25338
On May 02 2011 03:44 GhostKorean wrote:
Don't you think if your mmr goes down it's your fault? If you really are as good as you say your mmr will naturally go up to where it should be. Bad teammates do happen but remember the other team is equally likely to get them so given enough games you should be where you deserve to be

No, when I lose I'd like to think it's your fault sunye. Oh wait, maybe you're onto something.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
May 01 2011 22:20 GMT
#25339
On May 02 2011 03:44 GhostKorean wrote:
Bad teammates do happen but remember the other team is equally likely to get them so given enough games you should be where you deserve to be


Actually if we assume everyone aside from you in your psr range is awful then the other team has 5 slots to be filled by bads while your team only has 4 due to you. So if everyone else in your bracket is much worse than you your mmr should increase over time.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 03:32:39
May 02 2011 03:32 GMT
#25340
so
anyone have any ideas on what to do when a friend doesnt wanna pay up $$?
i lent it a long while back, it's not even that much (a couple of hundred), so it's more of a principle thing for me cause it's been like a year+ now

at least i learned to never lend money to friends =x
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
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