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Manit0u
Poland17664 Posts
Not only that, but the trailer looks like shit TBH. Looks more like some sort of action first person Doom-style game than RPG. Remains to be seen when they release some more footage. Unfortunately for them BG3 has set the bar pretty high and even after the initial blunder CP2077 also pulled up to play on par with the big boys. | ||
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Latham
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Lysteria
France2280 Posts
On September 05 2023 01:26 Manit0u wrote: Not only that, but the trailer looks like shit TBH. Looks more like some sort of action first person Doom-style game than RPG. Yeah, didn't like that trailer at all either, it just looks like an action game. The ones from 2-3 years ago were so much more promising that this. | ||
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thePunGun
598 Posts
But the Chinese Room, that's...surprising is an understatement. I only know that HL2 mod Dear Esther, they did a long time ago, which to be fair was pretty good imo. But I didn't even know they still existed. Paradox must've either been pretty confident or quite desperate with that pick and I really really hope it's not the latter. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17664 Posts
On September 06 2023 00:46 thePunGun wrote: This looks more like a teaser than a trailer though. But the Chinese Room, that's...surprising is an understatement. I only know that HL2 mod Dear Esther, they did a long time ago, which to be fair was pretty good imo. But I didn't even know they still existed. Paradox must've either been pretty confident or quite desperate with that pick and I really really hope it's not the latter. Well, they also did Amnesia, which was pretty well received horror game. This gives me hope but we do need to wait for some more info/footage. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7088 Posts
On September 06 2023 20:58 Manit0u wrote: Well, they also did Amnesia, which was pretty well received horror game. This gives me hope but we do need to wait for some more info/footage. I read that too. But it's not the Amnesia you think it is. Those are all made by "Frictional Games" | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17664 Posts
On September 06 2023 21:57 Harris1st wrote: I read that too. But it's not the Amnesia you think it is. Those are all made by "Frictional Games" There are 2 Amnesia games. Dark Descent was in fact developed by FG but Machine For Pigs was done by TCR. Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs is a survival horror video game developed by The Chinese Room and published by Frictional Games. In any case I think they might pull it off. I'm no game dev but when they took over they should still be left with all the story, dialogues, art assets etc. so even writing it from scratch in a new engine should be easier now. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17664 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17664 Posts
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Hildegard
Germany348 Posts
playing as an Elder | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17664 Posts
On September 27 2023 20:31 Hildegard wrote: I didn't watch the full vods, but + Show Spoiler + playing as an Elder + Show Spoiler + Indeed, going from the original idea of starting as a thin blood to now playing as an elder is kinda wild as those are pretty much the opposite points of the spectrum. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35170 Posts
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Hildegard
Germany348 Posts
On September 28 2023 11:35 Gahlo wrote: I'm curious how they're going to get around the calling. I played the original and loved it, but I never played WoD tabletop. A quick Google search did not help either. What is the calling? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35170 Posts
This clears out the entrenched vampires in the upper levels on the local level, leaving a power vacuum and a lot of musical chairs nonsense as people get a once in an unlifetime shot. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17664 Posts
On September 28 2023 19:06 Hildegard wrote: I played the original and loved it, but I never played WoD tabletop. A quick Google search did not help either. What is the calling? https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Beckoning_(VTM) | ||
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Hildegard
Germany348 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + That sounds a bit like the Cyberpunk story. The hero is doomed from the beginning of the story. I love this mechanic because RPGs tend to give the protagonist silly amounts of power. Kill rats at first, and gods thirty hours later. An elder could work differently and start out really strong, but instead of gaining new powers, the hero loses some, and that's how the difficulty increases. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17664 Posts
On September 30 2023 05:16 Hildegard wrote: + Show Spoiler + That sounds a bit like the Cyberpunk story. The hero is doomed from the beginning of the story. I love this mechanic because RPGs tend to give the protagonist silly amounts of power. Kill rats at first, and gods thirty hours later. An elder could work differently and start out really strong, but instead of gaining new powers, the hero loses some, and that's how the difficulty increases. I guess there's no need for spoilers as it's all speculation anyway  It might be akin to what playing Mummy in the nWoD (alternate World of Darkness setting) would be. Basically mummies when they get awakened by their cults start at full power (meteor shower level powers) but without any memory. As time progresses they grow weaker but regain their memories. This is interesting because you might be woken up, told that the cult is in danger, need to destroy some faction, recover artifacts and such only to realize later you've been awakened by the rival cult and destroyed your original one. WarCraft 3 also did it in their campaign where Arthas starts at max level but his power is being sapped and gets gradually weaker only to overcome it later (and you have to level up again). There are some interesting ways to take it. Edit: Personally I think they should go more of an nWoD way with this as it works better for a single player RPG experience. cWoD (classic World of Darkness with Vampire: The Masquerade) is more focused on the social aspect, politics and big overarching story whereas nWoD (new World of Darkness with Vampire: The Requiem) is more localized and brings personal horror to the forefront. Sure, you're a supernatural creature but whichever kind you're always tormented. VtR vampires have to constantly struggle between their humanity and bestial nature of a vampire for example, leading to some really hard choices and gripping moments. I think it would be fine to blend the two - have the lore/powers from VtM but do storytelling more in the VtR fashion. | ||
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Hildegard
Germany348 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35170 Posts
On October 01 2023 00:40 Hildegard wrote: That sounds amazing. You make me want to play some WoD tabletop. Most RPGs have no downsides and always allow for 100% White Knight bravery. WoD looks very different in that regard. You might want to try looking up LA by Night on Youtube for a V5 VTM actual play. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17664 Posts
On October 01 2023 00:40 Hildegard wrote: That sounds amazing. You make me want to play some WoD tabletop. Most RPGs have no downsides and always allow for 100% White Knight bravery. WoD looks very different in that regard. It's personal preference. WoD was always the mature RPG where social skills were typically worth more than combat skills etc. If you want a brief introduction you can either watch it played live on tabletop as mentioned previously or try one of the games that capture the theme: TTRPG: OG game for PC (GOG version includes the latest community patch), touted as the best RPG game of all time (and I agree): If by 1/3rd of the movie above you're not convinced this is the game for you then it probably isn't. VN in the VtM world: VN in the WtA world (you're a werewolf not a vampire, brilliant game, the ambience in it is chef's kiss): | ||
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