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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 30 2023 23:47 GMT
#141
There's also Seattle by Night, which seems to be turning into a primer for Bloodlines 2 now.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17845 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-10-01 02:46:42
October 01 2023 02:45 GMT
#142
On October 01 2023 00:40 Hildegard wrote:
That sounds amazing. You make me want to play some WoD tabletop. Most RPGs have no downsides and always allow for 100% White Knight bravery. WoD looks very different in that regard.


If you'd like to try some tabletop stuff I can give you some pointers for start if you want. I've been a big fan of WoD since the 90's (1992 to be more specific). I have all of the books for cWoD and nWoD. Not playing it much nowadays but I like to dig into the lore and stuff. The world itself is amazing and lets you do a lot of different things but it can be a bit daunting when starting out just from the sheer amount of stuff it includes.

If you're more into power fantasy but in a darker, horror-like setting you want to go with cWoD. If you want to go with dark personal horror stuff you want the nWoD.

Personally nWoD in my opinion is better for RPG as it is way more flexible (much less metaplot and quite a bit of vagueness for you to fill in) and has much more interesting concepts for the characters and different games. Just take a look at some of the options it offers:

Demon: The Descent - you're a demon, fallen angel. But God is a machine and angels are just programs that do the work, by some chance/error you gained consciousness which made you faulty, resulting in you being cast down from the heavens. You are now trying to evade killer programs/angels sent after you and use glitches in the system as your powers. Do you want to break the machine? Do you want to reintegrate with it? Techno-gnostic espionage game is not commonly found.

Changeling: The Lost (personal favorite of the OG WoD creator) - you got kidnapped by elves and taken to their kingdom, they left a doppleganger to live your life instead. While in the fae kingdom you were used as a slave to perform a specific task and you were changed to better peform it. Maybe you had to fight in the arena and now your fingers are blades made of glass, maybe you were hunting stuff and now are more beast than man, maybe you were just a table... Somehow you managed to escape but you don't exactly remember how and since time flows different in the fae world it might've been 5 minutes or 50 years since your kidnapping. You are changed but to normal people you look like a regular person (illusion). Do you want to kill your doppleganger and resume your old life? Do you leave it be and start from scratch? All the while evading the huntsmen your fae masters sent after you.

There are so many different kinds of games you could play. Both cWoD and nWod have at least 8 different settings to play (but only 4 or 5 of them are kinda counterparts, while vampire, werewolf, mummy and mage are relatively comparable, changeling is super different and the rest are kinda unique to their world).
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Hildegard
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
Germany348 Posts
October 02 2023 13:59 GMT
#143
Sadly, it's a bit difficult to find a group where I live. I have some of those games on my Steam wish list, but haven't played them yet.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 15 2023 03:28 GMT
#144


Tremere confirmed as 2nd clan.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17845 Posts
November 15 2023 16:43 GMT
#145
Sadly those videos don't really "reveal" anything and all we're getting is just a few seconds of combat footage
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 15 2023 17:49 GMT
#146
All they're really supposed to reveal is that a clan is playable. Gameplay reveal is in January.

Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17845 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-11-15 18:39:42
November 15 2023 18:30 GMT
#147
On November 16 2023 02:49 Gahlo wrote:
All they're really supposed to reveal is that a clan is playable. Gameplay reveal is in January.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTL4SU6uay8


Well, in the past at least they gave us a video with a bit of a lore and stuff behind each clan.

Compare this "reveal" video they posted to the old one:


It looks like the game went backwards in the past 4 years. At least their marketing department did when it comes to content being released/teased.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 15 2023 19:21 GMT
#148
Different developer. HSL's version of BL2 got flushed by Paradox and that reveals also shows less of the actual game than the current one.

Ever since TCR has been able to talk about the game they've been clear about what their timeline of revealing the clans this year and a gameplay reveal in January, in addition to releasing dev logs.

In my opinion, I think the story they've chose to tell is a step back, but HSL's BL2 was supposed to be just around the corner from a release that never happened and TCR's has a year to go.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17845 Posts
November 16 2023 04:28 GMT
#149
What I meant was that it's not necessarily a bad thing that they're revealing playable clans but the way they do it. Who are those clips targeted at? Practically no gameplay is being shown so people who know VtM clans don't know what to expect. People unfamiliar with the franchise will simply be confused since neither insert_clan_name_here nor those few seconds of combat actually mean anything to them.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 21 2023 05:26 GMT
#150
The Seattle By Night actual play is canonically linked to BL2 given the city. Season 2 just dropped its first 3 episodes.

Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 30 2023 12:15 GMT
#151
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17845 Posts
December 01 2023 00:02 GMT
#152


Is technology going backwards now? 2 decades ago BL1 managed much better facial expressions than most stuff we see nowadays.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
December 01 2023 01:18 GMT
#153
I think the expressions in BL1 are massively overrated, personally. Also, post-alpha.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17845 Posts
December 01 2023 03:01 GMT
#154
On December 01 2023 10:18 Gahlo wrote:
I think the expressions in BL1 are massively overrated, personally. Also, post-alpha.


I'm not saying they're perfect or anything but they do a good job on conveying emotion and actually fit what's being said and in what context. Not many games have achieved that lately (games like Fallout 4 or Skyrim fall short for example). I guess source engine was praised for facial expressions for its time not without a reason.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17845 Posts
February 01 2024 02:07 GMT
#155


My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9592 Posts
February 01 2024 14:36 GMT
#156
On February 01 2024 11:07 Manit0u wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwhvfH-Ij8Q

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined


Aaaand they're getting ratio'd pretty hard. 3.2K thumbs up to 6K down...
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 01 2024 16:45 GMT
#157
Big picture it's not terrible, but after making us wait 4 months for that, which doesn't answer any concerns the community at large has is... ugh.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17845 Posts
February 01 2024 20:04 GMT
#158
On February 02 2024 01:45 Gahlo wrote:
Big picture it's not terrible, but after making us wait 4 months for that, which doesn't answer any concerns the community at large has is... ugh.


First of all, FPP close combat is pretty much always crap so I have no idea why they even went there. Even in BL1 when you were brawling or using melee weapons the camera switched to TPP.

The combat doesn't even look very interesting or exciting either and it seems like it's going to be a large part of the gameplay (since they even announced it in the beginning of the video as "Action RPG").

To be honest I don't really have any more hopes for this game. Big part of playing VtM is creating your own unique vamp and getting stronger as you go. Starting out as predefined elder with the cringe name of Phyre gives me exactly 0 incentive to want to play this.

Took me 5 years of clinging to the hope but now I've finally come to terms with it and requested a refund on my pre-purchase I did back in 2019.

I honestly don't know what went wrong with Hardsuit Labs version of the game but the old trailers looked way more interesting and promising than this.
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