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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
March 14 2015 18:49 GMT
#961
On March 15 2015 03:40 waffelz wrote:
well, semms like fnatic is the better team.

However, does anyone else gets bored by their play too? I dont know why, but since a long time I find fnatic games always "boring". Its not that they arent playing well or anything, but for some reason, the games of them/against them seem to be different from other matches in a bad way. Could be VP-bias/saltyness in this case, but I doubt it. The first game on cbble is on paper a must watch. Back to back action and I really enjoyed the small walking tower in middle by Neo and Pasha, reminded me of 1.6, but for some reason the game wasnt as exiting for me as it should. Does someone else has this problem?

Fnatic was a part of what was considered by many the best series ever played in CS:GO to date (Fnatic vs. NiP at MLG Aspen). Their games are generally pretty exciting due to their aggression on their CT side and the fact that all of their players can show some pretty clutch plays. JW is one of the most entertaining players to watch and so's olof when he's on point, but KRiMZ is pretty boring to watch because he's just a robot--highly skilled, precise, and predictable. Flusha has amazing 1vXs which are cool.

But if you're paying very close attention the best part about Fnatic is their anti-stratting. pronax is smart and the nuances in Fnatic's plays, even in their defaults, are just beautiful to watch, so if you're into watching very intelligent Counter-Strike, Fnatic might be the best team to watch, otherwise if you're more into flare, nV, NiP and VP are definitely funner.
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waffelz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Germany711 Posts
March 14 2015 18:58 GMT
#962
On March 15 2015 03:49 Souma wrote:
Fnatic was a part of what was considered by many the best series ever played in CS:GO to date (Fnatic vs. NiP at MLG Aspen). Their games are generally pretty exciting due to their aggression on their CT side and the fact that all of their players can show some pretty clutch plays. JW is one of the most entertaining players to watch and so's olof when he's on point, but KRiMZ is pretty boring to watch because he's just a robot--highly skilled, precise, and predictable. Flusha has amazing 1vXs which are cool.

But if you're paying very close attention the best part about Fnatic is their anti-stratting. pronax is smart and the nuances in Fnatic's plays, even in their defaults, are just beautiful to watch, so if you're into watching very intelligent Counter-Strike, Fnatic might be the best team to watch, otherwise if you're more into flare, nV, NiP and VP are definitely funner.


Nice elaboration, but I have to strongly disagree about JW. I feel like hes extremely overhyped especially his awping. There was a time where he was a strong awp, but he tend to miss a lot of shots theese days and just underperformes in comparison the other awpers, or even his teammates. I have to admit though that I dont watch fnatic that closely, since their games bore me most of the time as I said. Its true though that they are tactical pretty advanced, which is why I dont get that their games dont really bother me.
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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-14 19:10:11
March 14 2015 19:04 GMT
#963
JW has been on point ever since the roster change but he hasn't been doing as much this major. The entertaining part about JW is not him hitting shots but his hyper aggression.

Actually iirc JW was doing pretty well stats-wise Day 1 and possibly Day 2?

Yep, JW was a top-five performer on Day 2.
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waffelz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Germany711 Posts
March 14 2015 19:09 GMT
#964
On March 15 2015 04:04 Souma wrote:
JW has been on point ever since the roster change but he hasn't been doing as much this major. The entertaining part about JW is not him hitting shots but his hyper aggression.

Actually iirc JW was doing pretty well stats-wise Day 1 and possibly Day 2?


I dont say that he doesnt hit shots in general, I was jut talking about his awping, for which he is still often praised. His awping got a lot "worse"(maybe it just stayed on the same level/just slightly improved where the rest improved a lot more), not just in this major. Not trying to bash him ofc.
RIP "The big travis CS degree thread", taken from us too soon | Honourable forum princess, defended by Rebs-approved white knights
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
March 14 2015 19:10 GMT
#965
His AWPing has been pretty great actually... He definitely was a top three AWPer during the latter half of 2014.
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iv~nk~j
Profile Joined August 2012
1140 Posts
March 14 2015 19:12 GMT
#966
JW is by far the most fun player to watch when he is having a good game, so aggressive and so cocky

pasha at last year's katowice is the closest another player has come to playing like that
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 14 2015 19:19 GMT
#967
On March 15 2015 03:25 Kipsate wrote:
why do the villains always win


Injustice never dies
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
March 14 2015 19:19 GMT
#968
time for nV boys
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
March 14 2015 19:28 GMT
#969
Loving the OP. gj everyone
En Taro Violet
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
March 14 2015 19:32 GMT
#970
happy asking his mates to wake up, that it's not navi they are playing
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 14 2015 19:35 GMT
#971
casual bm to navi, hah
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Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
March 14 2015 19:38 GMT
#972
NiP looking pretty good, I like this!

Don't really care if nV wins tho either, I like both teams.
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Heinsenzerg
Profile Joined September 2011
Argentina2279 Posts
March 14 2015 19:38 GMT
#973
no maikelele?
i dont follow cs sorry
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
March 14 2015 19:39 GMT
#974
well fuck this isnt cool(as a nV fan)
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
March 14 2015 19:40 GMT
#975
Swedish wrecking ball

VP not playing in the finals of this Katowice feels... wrong.
ffxiv enjoyer
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
March 14 2015 19:42 GMT
#976
NOOOO

VP lost the second map? S A D B O Y S
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
March 14 2015 19:45 GMT
#977
NiP looks totally different compared to the TSM series. Wow.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
March 14 2015 19:46 GMT
#978
POV stream best stream.

GO NIP
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
March 14 2015 19:47 GMT
#979
On March 15 2015 04:46 Grettin wrote:
POV stream best stream.

GO NIP

So true. Love listening to these guys.
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Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
March 14 2015 19:49 GMT
#980
That execute was beautiful and terrifying. Very Swedish
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