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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12084 Posts
November 07 2015 19:42 GMT
#1641
On November 08 2015 04:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 03:50 hariooo wrote:
You guys are arguing against ghosts. No one is saying $40 is unreasonable by itself.


Have you been reading the TL and b.net threads? A ton of people are whining about how games aren't always F2P in the year 2015, especially Blizzard games, since some games are. Some are also worried about additional costs too.


I won't buy it for 40 since it is an fps. The game seems good but I dislike the genre too much to pay so much for a game I'll play an hour or two a month. If I could use my steam wallet I might buy it since that is money I have and not spending on anything else (know it won't be on steam unless Blizzard goes bankrupt).
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
November 07 2015 21:55 GMT
#1642
On November 08 2015 04:42 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 04:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 08 2015 03:50 hariooo wrote:
You guys are arguing against ghosts. No one is saying $40 is unreasonable by itself.


Have you been reading the TL and b.net threads? A ton of people are whining about how games aren't always F2P in the year 2015, especially Blizzard games, since some games are. Some are also worried about additional costs too.


I won't buy it for 40 since it is an fps. The game seems good but I dislike the genre too much to pay so much for a game I'll play an hour or two a month. If I could use my steam wallet I might buy it since that is money I have and not spending on anything else (know it won't be on steam unless Blizzard goes bankrupt).

I wonder how many people still have overflowing Battle.net wallets from D3.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
November 07 2015 22:20 GMT
#1643
On November 07 2015 19:50 Rocket-Bear wrote:
I remember when every game pretty much costed this much and ppl didn't complain

If you account for inflation games got way cheaper. In a way I'm surprised games haven't gotten more expensive, the majority are still priced at 60$.

Lots of games were 60$(and most of the time even more) 20 years ago.
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
November 07 2015 23:02 GMT
#1644
maybe on consoles, on pc games were always cheaper
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
November 08 2015 00:52 GMT
#1645
On November 08 2015 07:20 Andre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 19:50 Rocket-Bear wrote:
I remember when every game pretty much costed this much and ppl didn't complain

If you account for inflation games got way cheaper. In a way I'm surprised games haven't gotten more expensive, the majority are still priced at 60$.

Lots of games were 60$(and most of the time even more) 20 years ago.


well for my region games gotten more expensive lately slowly (because euro got weaker towards the dollar), and the euro change sneak doubled their price almost.

But there are a few reason games didn't increase in price. Working situation got worse. Playtime dropped the customer base grew constantly. All that allowed a constant price. It is mostly a fear that they lose customers if they go higher, thats why they do stuff like season passes everything that keeps the base version at the price everyone knows.
I mean console only got more expensive, because Blue Rays are more expensive.

Thats why I started liking Blizzard even more. Good old B2P with expansion packs if people enjoy the game, when everyone else went insane on preorders and DLC coming on day 1.
So yeah if we like Overwatch, there will be an expansion pack somewhere down the line for sure. And knowing Blizzard it will make the game 3 times as good.
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-08 04:49:39
November 08 2015 04:49 GMT
#1646
Played a game on gibraltar today as reaper. Enemy reinhardt went up to charge me, and as he approached i used my wraith form and he charged right through me. I turn around to see where he was going, and he kept charging right off the cliff to death.

Pretty funny to watch
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-08 08:14:57
November 08 2015 04:52 GMT
#1647
next level D.va strat



E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
November 08 2015 15:00 GMT
#1648
On November 08 2015 13:49 Jer99 wrote:
Played a game on gibraltar today as reaper. Enemy reinhardt went up to charge me, and as he approached i used my wraith form and he charged right through me. I turn around to see where he was going, and he kept charging right off the cliff to death.

Pretty funny to watch


are you at blizzcon?

man im so hyped for this game, i really want beta access. blizzard pls :D
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 08 2015 15:32 GMT
#1649
Hm yeah not playing this anymore till the new heroes come out (to test them a bit) and then waiting for a new gamemode probably.
Atm the game doesn't deserve the hype (even though i think the hype already died down) it gets.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
November 08 2015 15:33 GMT
#1650
On November 09 2015 00:00 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 13:49 Jer99 wrote:
Played a game on gibraltar today as reaper. Enemy reinhardt went up to charge me, and as he approached i used my wraith form and he charged right through me. I turn around to see where he was going, and he kept charging right off the cliff to death.

Pretty funny to watch


are you at blizzcon?

man im so hyped for this game, i really want beta access. blizzard pls :D


nah i have beta access
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-08 15:46:06
November 08 2015 15:33 GMT
#1651
ok so you get a base PC edition for $40 USD.

or if you are a console player you have no choice but to spend $60 USD with the amazing bonus of a bunch of crap that plays on a WIndows-Based-PC you might not even own? huh?

i thought for sure they'd have a campaign component for console players to justify the extra $20.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
November 08 2015 15:35 GMT
#1652
console pricing is pretty standard. i don't think i can name a game in recent memory that hasn't been $60.

@jer99 you're a lucky man
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22291 Posts
November 08 2015 15:36 GMT
#1653
On November 09 2015 00:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
ok so you get a based PC edition for $40 USD.

or if you are a console player you have no choice but to spend $60 USD with the amazing bonus of a bunch of crap that plays on a WIndows-Based-PC you might not even own? huh?

i thought for sure they'd have a campaign component for console players to justify the extra $20.

The reason they don't sell the cheap version for consoles is probably because they wont let them. I dont see why Blizzard would not do it if they could.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
November 08 2015 15:36 GMT
#1654
indeed i am i've been playing it non stop since i got in
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
November 08 2015 15:40 GMT
#1655
i would be too lol

ive been watching streams of it every day, anticipating. i was originally skeptical of the hype fenner gave it but i think im all aboard the train after watching some of the blizzcon stuff.

that d.va kill :D
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
November 08 2015 15:46 GMT
#1656
my god i just had a 21-3 game then a 21-2 game with reaper... he's so incredibly broken right now
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-08 15:52:07
November 08 2015 15:49 GMT
#1657
On November 09 2015 00:36 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 00:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
ok so you get a based PC edition for $40 USD.

or if you are a console player you have no choice but to spend $60 USD with the amazing bonus of a bunch of crap that plays on a WIndows-Based-PC you might not even own? huh?

i thought for sure they'd have a campaign component for console players to justify the extra $20.

The reason they don't sell the cheap version for consoles is probably because they wont let them. I dont see why Blizzard would not do it if they could.


well i think the console manufacturer gets $10 or $20 or some guaranteed royalty fee on each unit sold. essentially forcing their hand to sell it for $60 USD.

which is fine.. but then .. for a console player don't u have to offer something more for that $20?
this is not 2001 ...not every console owner has a Windows-Based-PC.

so i just figured they'd stick some kind of small campaign mission in the thing for the $20.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22291 Posts
November 08 2015 15:54 GMT
#1658
On November 09 2015 00:49 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 00:36 Gorsameth wrote:
On November 09 2015 00:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
ok so you get a based PC edition for $40 USD.

or if you are a console player you have no choice but to spend $60 USD with the amazing bonus of a bunch of crap that plays on a WIndows-Based-PC you might not even own? huh?

i thought for sure they'd have a campaign component for console players to justify the extra $20.

The reason they don't sell the cheap version for consoles is probably because they wont let them. I dont see why Blizzard would not do it if they could.


well i think the console manufacturer gets $10 or $20 or some guaranteed royalty fee on each unit sold. essentially forcing their hand to sell it for $60 USD.

which is fine.. but then .. for a console player don't u have to offer something more for that $20?
this is not 2001 ...not every console owner has a Windows-Based-PC.

so i just figured they'd stick some kind of small campaign mission in the thing for the $20.

"Blizzard should make a campaign because Console manufacturers are greedy fucks"

Sorry but I dont see the logic in that. If you think the price is unfair complain to Sony and Microsoft. Not Blizzard.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
November 08 2015 15:59 GMT
#1659
they could also do what everyone else does, sell the base for 60 on console and charge 80 for the bonus stuff ;P.
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
November 08 2015 15:59 GMT
#1660
ya i dont think blizzard had much of a say, here. at least you guys got some skins as opposed to blizz just charging $60 across the board and having that be extra dlc.
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